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June 2013 Moms
Monkeybutt80
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autism and vaccines.
Monkeybutt80
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I listen to Jenny McCarthy who used to host Singled Out on MTV over my pediatrician with a medical degree. Just kidding.
My DH and I were at our baby basic class last night and a local pediatrician (who happened to be the dr we picked!) came to talk and answer questions for a portion of the class and one lady argued with him about how she still thinks vaccine causes autism. I was talking to a friend of mine today about the absurdity that was the argument, and she mentioned this website so I thought I'd share this with y'all. It's a website that keeps track of the number of death caused by not vaccinating since the book by Jenny McCarthy came out.
https://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html
hope this clicky works. first time posting a website link.
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Re: autism and vaccines.
When I saw the title of this post I was getting ready to flex my eye rolling muscles so I'm pleasantly surprised!
Good article.
CJ 05/29/2013
This exactly. WHY do people trust celebrities they don't know over medical professionals they have a relationship with? That celebrity can't help your child when they are sick/dead.
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I cant vouch for the validity of the numbers and what the website says but he does say in FAQ section that he gets the death numbers from CDC's website. But whether that's all because the parents read Jenny McCarthy's book? I doubt he knows that.
I absolutely sympathize with the need to be able to know/ explain/ understand why this happened to their child. I cant really blame the mom for thinking that way in order to cope with it. I think it's important for the society as a whole to continue to work to find the cause of the condition so that we can all understand it better. However, it's just so dangerous to promote this already disproven cause using their celebrity status.
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Dont get me wrong, I am not advocating we turn this website into a pamphlet and start handing them out at dr's offices. I thought it was interesting to know that there was some website out there supposedly tallying the number of deaths. with that said, just like everything else you read online or watch on tv, you have to make a determination for yourself on what you can believe and what you cannot believe.
This is what his website says (can we believe it %100? That's all up to each one of us)
Q: How do you calculate the number of Vaccine Preventable Illnesses?
A: I use two tables from the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention?s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports. Table I contains the weekly reported case numbers of the following vaccine preventable diseases: Diphtheria, Haemophilus Influenzae Serotype B (HIB), Measles, Meningococcal Disease A C Y & W-135, Poliomyelitis, Poliovirus, Rubella, and Tetanus. Table II contains the weekly reported case numbers of the following vaccine preventable diseases: Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Mumps, Pertussis (Whooping Cough), and Varicella (Chickenpox). Here is an example of Table I and here is an example of Table II.
Q: How do you calculate the number of Vaccine Preventable Deaths?
A: The vast majority of the deaths listed are for Influenza-Associated Pediatric Mortality taken from Table I of the CDC MMWR. Annual death data for all other diseases are reported in theNational Vital Statistics Reports. However, the National Vital Statistics Reports are three years delayed which means that the 2007 death data was reported in 2010, the 2008 death data was reported in 2011, and so on.
I absolutely understand where you are coming from. My job depends on having the correct and reliable sources when arguing. If I were to get into a debate over this issue (and I hope I never have to get into a debate about the importance of vaccination), I'd rely on medical journals, not websites.
This is just more of an "this is an interesting website" post.
Everyone is allowed to their own opinion and my opinion is vaccines are BS. I was never vaccinated and I hardly ever get sick. (Maybe a runny nose once a winter.) I think its funny that everyone runs to go get a flu shot and gets the flu anyways. I have never gotten a flu shot and I have never had the flu! I am proud to say I will not vaccinate my child.
This decision has nothing to do with Jenny McCarthy. This decision is because of my own beliefs, my own researching and experiences.
We decided to vaccinate our son, though we do so on an alternate schedule. I know people whose children caught things like whooping cough despite having 2 of the 3 shots for it. Also sometimes vaccines cause death or medical problems. It's rare but they don't list those things as side effects for nothing.
There's always one.
CJ 05/29/2013
My two girls Flower and Ayla Faye
Go to a third world country, where kids and people die everyday because of these diseases that can be prevented by vaccines, and tell them that. Maybe then you will realize what a crazy statement that is. You haven't gotten sick because many of these disease have been non existant in industrialized countries due to everybody vaccinating. Since more people like you are refusing to vaccinate there has been a resurgence of these diseases and that just puts you and your kids at risk.
Edited to add that I am fully vaccinated and never get sick either. I got my first cold in over 10 years a few months ago. My 2 year old is as well and is as healthy as a horse. He never gets sick.
Actually your statement is crazy. We are not living in a third world country. The reason they have those diseases is because they don't have clean water, good food and the luxuries we have.
I'm sure there is more then just me. I just choose to stand up for what I believe in. I'm not trying to change anyone's minds. Just saying what I believe in while other people are saying what they believe in.
I just think everyone should do there OWN research. I have done plenty of research to feel confident in my decision.
I don't need to be flamed just because my beliefs are different then other peoples.
Yeah....... Ok. We had those diseases less than 50 years ago until we started to vaccinate and then those diseases were nearly eradicated. People were eating well and drinking safe water then. Actually people were probably eating better back then because there wasn't much processed food like there is now.
I really hope your kid is not in the same daycare/school/etc as my kid.
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Exactly. The daycare I am looking into take infants and toddlers. I know I can keep my baby safe by vaccinating him once he is of age but when he is an infant and not yet fully vaccinated, a non vaccinated toddler who carry a disease can pose a risk to my infant before he can be fully vaccinated.
Your unvaccinated kids are a risk to my infant who is not old enough to be fully vaccinated as well as my immunocompromised nephew who cannot be vaccinated.
Ask the parents of the 11 day old baby in my city that died of the chicken pox virus because someone didn't think being vaccinated was important or could hurt someone else.
There is no credible, peer-reviewed research which would convince any reasonable, informed human being that skipping vaccinations is a good idea. None. There isn't a shred of scientifically sound information to support that practice. Not vaccinating a child isn't just potentially dangerous to that child, it's harmful to society at large.
You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.