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What is th TAC procedure? Answers inside!

Having a TAC placed essentially cures incompetent cervix. it has over a 90% success rate (a traditional vaginal cerclage has about a 55-60% success rate).

Here is a picture of the various cerclages. 
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A TAC is a band of mersaline tape (one 8" piece of this material can hold the entire weight of an adult!!!) placed AROUND the very top of your cervix (in my case lapriscopically, others have a c/s type incision). The TAC prevents the membranes from even beginning to funnel and "holds" the cervix shut.  A typical cerclage (TVC) is sew THROUGH your cervix at the base, since the doctor needs to access it through the vagina.

So typically a vaginal McDonald cerclage is placed around 12-14 weeks gestation (or in an emergency situation) while it canbe successful, what usually happens is that your membranes funnel to the point of the cerclage, at which point the cerclage can either hold and be fine, rip through the cervix completely (and deliver a premature baby) or funnel to that point and get an infection which then makes you pprom which results in preterm delivery.  

Will it allow you to TTC sooner?

After having the TAC done my doctor suggests you wait 2 cycles before getting pregnant. In my case we had intended to do our next IVF cycle in July, so this works out just fine for us. We could have had the surgery earlier and TTC-ed sooner, but July works out better for our jobs and for EDD as well.

 

Often times OBs see this as an "extreme" measure to be taking and try to counsel patients out of it. They see it as too invasive when a TVC could work. I'm not playing with the word could here, I'm going as dang extreme as I can. With as difficult as it is to get the baby in there in the first place I dont have a real margin for error (not that people who get PG the "normal" way should EVER have to endure this pain, but you know what I mean).

 

Please feel free to ask any other questions. I dont mind answering at all!!

Here is a video of the surgery being preformed by the doctor that will be doing mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnmkaquk5AY  

Lilypie - (5WpR)
Me(26)PCOS, Hypothyroidism & Incompetent Cervix  DH(28)Azoospermia
4/11 Off BCPs -- Cycle 1-3 (6months) - No ovulation, Provera
Cycle 4-6 - Provera, Clomid 50mg, CD23BW - All BFN (HSG-all clear)
Dec 2011 DH S/A shows zero count - dx Azoo
TESE 4/13/12 - Sperm found!! 5 viles frozen
IVF ICSI #1- (Lupron protocol) 5R 2F 2dt- 2DP & 4CF - BFFN
IVF ICSI #2-  (Antagonist protocol) Started stims 7/26
ER 8/8 11R 9F 3dt - 9BF & 7BF (+HPT 8dp3dt)TWINS! EDD 5/1/13
<312/9 Joshua David and Zoe Faith born too early at 19w4d due to incompetent cervix <3
Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
  LAP Transabdominal Cerclage - 4/15/13 only possibility of carrying my children to term 
IVF#3 - June 2013 -  canceled.
IVF ICSI #3.2- (Antagonist Protocol) 7/26 start stims (same day, a year later from J & Z's stim start date!)
 ER 8/7 19R 9F 3dt of 2- 8BF embryos. (+HPT 7dp3dt) Beta #1 - 82.8 Beta #2 - 821 Beta #3 - 7254
9/11/13 - U/S shows 1 baby HR 135bpm! EDD: 4/30/13
It's a BOY!!
2/9/14 - DX Gestational Diabetes
C-section scheduled for 4/7/14 (36w5d)
Colin Joseph - 1:07pm 6lbs 14oz - 8 days in the NICU
Everyone Welcome!

Re: What is th TAC procedure? Answers inside!

  • Very interesting! Thank you for sharing!! I've wondered what a cerclage is before but never looked it up and you're the first person I've seen post about a TAC.

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  • I agree, this is very interesting. Thanks for posting!

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  • Hi Cuddle,

    l hope you don't mind me posting here, I lurk. I have been following your posts for awhile since your situation hits home for me, I went into pre term labor at 23 weeks, 4 days and lost my boy/girl twins on Dec 8 2012. First, I am deep

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    Me:34 PCOS, one kinked tube, low thyroid.
    DH:39 lower than average count.
    Married 2006. 3 failed IUIs and countless BFNs.
    ~IVF#1: July 2012~
    7/10 Retrieval: 16r, 14f w/ICSI. 7/15 ET: Transfered 2. 4 frosties.< Poas faint+ 4dp5dt.>
    Beta#1 (8dp5dt): 138. Beta#2 (10dp5dt): 355.
    u/s#1: (19dp5dt) 8/3/12 one sac, two yolks! Beta 8,000
    u/s#2: two strong heartbeats! EDD 4/2/12
    Boy/girl fraternal mono/di twins-- lost our sweet baby girl at 22 weeks due to SIUGR
    Preterm labor at 23 weeks 4 days, lost our sweet baby boy.
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    Hi Cuddle,

    l hope you don't mind me posting here, I lurk. I have been following your posts for awhile since you

    Lilypie - (5WpR)
    Me(26)PCOS, Hypothyroidism & Incompetent Cervix  DH(28)Azoospermia
    4/11 Off BCPs -- Cycle 1-3 (6months) - No ovulation, Provera
    Cycle 4-6 - Provera, Clomid 50mg, CD23BW - All BFN (HSG-all clear)
    Dec 2011 DH S/A shows zero count - dx Azoo
    TESE 4/13/12 - Sperm found!! 5 viles frozen
    IVF ICSI #1- (Lupron protocol) 5R 2F 2dt- 2DP & 4CF - BFFN
    IVF ICSI #2-  (Antagonist protocol) Started stims 7/26
    ER 8/8 11R 9F 3dt - 9BF & 7BF (+HPT 8dp3dt)TWINS! EDD 5/1/13
    <312/9 Joshua David and Zoe Faith born too early at 19w4d due to incompetent cervix <3
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
      LAP Transabdominal Cerclage - 4/15/13 only possibility of carrying my children to term 
    IVF#3 - June 2013 -  canceled.
    IVF ICSI #3.2- (Antagonist Protocol) 7/26 start stims (same day, a year later from J & Z's stim start date!)
     ER 8/7 19R 9F 3dt of 2- 8BF embryos. (+HPT 7dp3dt) Beta #1 - 82.8 Beta #2 - 821 Beta #3 - 7254
    9/11/13 - U/S shows 1 baby HR 135bpm! EDD: 4/30/13
    It's a BOY!!
    2/9/14 - DX Gestational Diabetes
    C-section scheduled for 4/7/14 (36w5d)
    Colin Joseph - 1:07pm 6lbs 14oz - 8 days in the NICU
    Everyone Welcome!
  • Thanks for the info!!!!  I am a little worried about my cervix because every time I have an ultrasound or transfer, the doctor mentions what a short cervix I have.

    How's your recovery going?

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    cycle 1: May 2012, clomid 50mg; cycle cancelled, thin lining, no response
    cycle 2: June 2012, femara 5mg; cycle cancelled, no response
    cycle 3: July 2012, femara 7.5mg; cycle cancelled (largest folli on Cd12 & cd 16: 11, lining 4)
    Repeat MRI July 25,2012- Cyst unchanged, likely old infarction.
    Aug. 8: met with RE, move to injectables if HSG and SA normal
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    FET # 2: endometrial scratch 5/6, added estrace vaginally and ASA to delestrogen and PIO. June 10- transferred one 4AA hatched embryo, BFP 4dp6dt, Beta 1 (9dp6dt) 187, Beta 2 (11dp6dt): 412; Beta 3 (15dp6dt ): 4452. U/S #1- one beautiful embryo with a heartbeat of 133 at 7 weeks.  8 weeks: heartbeat 156. EDD 2/26/2014: born 2-3-14 induced due to Pre-E and HELLP at 36w5d.

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  • Cuddle,

     Thanks so much for sharing so much with me, it really helped. I will continue to lurk and cheer you on from the side lines. I'm on the IF board here and there. 

     

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    Me:34 PCOS, one kinked tube, low thyroid.
    DH:39 lower than average count.
    Married 2006. 3 failed IUIs and countless BFNs.
    ~IVF#1: July 2012~
    7/10 Retrieval: 16r, 14f w/ICSI. 7/15 ET: Transfered 2. 4 frosties.< Poas faint+ 4dp5dt.>
    Beta#1 (8dp5dt): 138. Beta#2 (10dp5dt): 355.
    u/s#1: (19dp5dt) 8/3/12 one sac, two yolks! Beta 8,000
    u/s#2: two strong heartbeats! EDD 4/2/12
    Boy/girl fraternal mono/di twins-- lost our sweet baby girl at 22 weeks due to SIUGR
    Preterm labor at 23 weeks 4 days, lost our sweet baby boy.
  • Thanks for sharing!!  Good luck with everything!!
    TTC #1 Since 4/2010, Cycle 30
    Positive for HLA-B27, I'm a mutant :p
    Testing - Me ok, gluten issue? DH - borderline count, low motility
    4/28/11 IUI#1 = BFP!(5/25), EDD 2/2/12 - m/c 5w3d
    7/3, 7/31, 9/25 - IUI#2-4=BFN
    IVF#1 - 1 blast = BFP!! (12/30), EDD 9/9/12, confirmed c/p 4w2d
    FET#1 3/2/12 - 2 blasts =BFP!! EDD 11/18/12, us#1 = twins! Confirmed m/c 5w6d
    4/20-surprise BFP and another c/p 4w2d
    FET#2 7/16/12 - 2 blasts = BFN
    FET#3 8/20/12 - 1 blast - BFP!! Beta #1-2=177, 354
    1st u/s 5w6d, one beautiful little HB :), 2nd u/s 146bpm
    baby girl born 5/10/13

    TTC#2 since 12/17/2014, Cycle 8
    Repeat Testing...FSH=12, AMH=3.8, AFC=28. 
    IUI#5 5/10/15- c/p?
    IVF#2 8/19/15 - cancelled due to cysts
    IVF#2 take two 10/2015 - 5 blasts frozen
    FET#4 12/11/2015 - BFN - 4 blasts remaining
    FET#5 2/18/16 - BFP!!!  Beta1-3, 126, 250, 745!!

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  • Wow.  A friend and I were just talking today about the amazing things that medicine can do with the reproductive system, and this just adds to my amazement.  Thank you so much for sharing this information!
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    ER 12/6/12 (14R, 11M, 9F), ET 12/9/12 transferred 2 day 3 embies
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    Cycle #26 March Lucky Duck- FET #1
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    Cycle #31 August Shooting Star- FET #1.3 
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    U/S 9/19/13- HR is 128!  U/S #2 10/4/13- HR is 174!
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