October 2012 Moms

Opening a can of worms (NBR)

This is inspired by the Supreme Court Gay marriage case going on right now.

This is most likely an unpopular opinion.

I think the government should not endorse marriages of any kind.  I think it is a religious institution and who a person marries should be between a person's church and thier God.

I think state sanctioned unions should be labeled civil unions.  I think it can include people of oppisite or same gender.  I also think it should include people of no sexual love either.  Such as two older woman who wish to live together mearly sharing insurance and incomes, and other federal rights afforded those in marriages.

This could also include more than 2 persons, say a couple who is caring for a parent could all enter into a civil union to better afford the medical care of the aging parent, include them on thier insurance, etc.

Is this a really bad idea?  I think maybe I haven't thought it through very well, but it makes sense to me. 

What are other's thoughts?  Help me think this through, or debate with me.  Or if no one reads this then I will just ponder it to myself.

(kids are sleeping, I don't want to pack, at any time I may have to abandon thread if one of these two things change)

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Re: Opening a can of worms (NBR)

  • I don't think it's that unpopular of an opinion.

    I don't totally understand why the government cares which two people want to unite in marriage.
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    I agree with the marriage vs civil union part. I really think the wording is what causes a lot of the problems. In a
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  • The gov't and employers provide so many breaks for people in marriages/civil unions that I think the relationship has to be very well-defined, otherwise people will take advantage of the institution (random roommates, relatives, etc.).  It really

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    This could also include more than 2 persons, say a couple who is caring for a parent could all enter into a c

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  • I have never quite understood the argument that marriage is a religious institution to justify the preventing gay marriage because plenty of people of the opposite sex are married without involving a ch

  • Isn't this more the kind thing to get posted somewhere else? Like Facebook? Just my view.

     

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  • I think you get more varied views here.  Different upbringing, different locations. If I post something on facebook, I can invariably tell you who will respond and what they will say.
  • Thought this was a pace to discuss babies and related personal issues...not politics. Again..just my opinion...no oe has to agree with me. That was just the impression I got and am surprised to open up this post to find it not related to the subject matte
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  • Yes this is true but then why post here versus a bard for the topic at hand? Lots of views and responses there I'm sure. Anyway...don't mean to waste everyone's time with this here...just my opinion please carry on.

     

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  • imagetwofishes1984:

    Isn't this more the kind thing to get posted somewhere else? Like Facebook? Just my view.

     

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    ugh i hate when i write out a comment and my window closes. bah!

    For me personally, I have a really hard time wit

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  • Ah, I see. I was not aware of this. Good to know, thanks.
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  • I'm Catholic.  And my faith teaches me to love my neighbor as I love myself.  But how can I do that if I want to deny my neighbor civil rights?  The answer is, I can't.  I'm Catholic and I support marriage equality.  It really irk
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  • For DH and I our marriage involves our religion. To us DH and I have a covenant with God. However that is just our belief and I certainly don't expect other people to understand or agree with that, same way we don't care what other people do for their

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    I'm down with all of what you said. I'd even say.. drum roll please... polygamous relationships. As long as the gov
  • imagetwofishes1984:

    Isn't this more the kind thing to get posted somewhere else? Like Facebook? Just my view.

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  • I am actually going to add that I don't need anyone to pat me on the back about this.  I enjoy a good (fair) debate, after all this liberal dem married a very fiscally conservative GOP.  I was just thinking about it a lot today and wanted t
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    I am actually going to add that I don't need anyone to pat me on the back about this.  I enjoy a good (f
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  • imagenavy&violet:

    This is inspired by the Supreme Court Gay marriage case going on right now.

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  • I agree with the original post entirely but that's a change we won't see in this lifetime. 

    I will say this, it's gotten to the point where if I knew someone who was opposed to gay marriage, I pretty much write them off. I have no respect fo



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