Question about bfn vs. loss

Re: Question about bfn vs. loss

• BabyVDM member

  March 2013

  Hi, 

  I'm really sorry that you have to go through this.  

  and it won't help to know but I am going through the same thing right now.

  I don't think we can say it was bfn.  becuse even though it was short there was impla

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  BFP#2 10/14/2011 - fetal demise - MC 12/13/2011
  BFP#3 05/30/2012 - fetal demise - MC 07/23/2012
  IVF#1 02/14/2013 - 2 Beautiful Blasts transferred
  BFP#4 02/25/2013 - BFP - MC and ectopic 03/06/2013
  IFV#2 07/02/2013 -BFP#5 - 07/07/2013
  1st Beta 07/11/2013 - 483 (9dp5dt) - 2nd Beta 07/13/2013 1006 (11dp5dt)
  1st U/S 07/31/2013 - TWINS! "The Minions"
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  1st Beta 09/05/2015 - 105 - 2nd Beta 09/08/2015 335
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• Neener73

  March 2013

  I'm sorry that you are going through this.  In technical terms, you had an early pregnancy loss (chemical pregnancy) because the only evidence is biochemical (no heartbeat was seen).  Basically, the embryo didn't develop properly.&nbsp

                   

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• AmCheri member

  March 2013

  I'm very sorry for your loss. It's not a silly question at all. It's easy to get lost in the terminology. If your beta was over 5, it wasn't a BFN. You were pregnant but the embryo didn't grow properly. Some call it an early loss, others say a chemical pr

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• kk2bkd

  March 2013

  Thank you so much for your kind replies. I'm so sorry to hear about all of your losses as well.

  I am very sad tonight. I can imagine that once the bleeding begins it will be all the more real.

  It's heartbreaking to say goodbye to one of&nb

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• liz4paws member

  March 2013

  I would absolutely call it a loss. Sending you every single hug in the world. Grieve however you need to. It's just not fair.

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• MrsT4 member

  March 2013

  Just wanted to add my T&P's....and am sorry for your loss.

  I just especially hate to hear about failures and loss when it comes to donor cycles...huge ((hugs)) to you. 

   

   

  Me: AMA, DOR, undetectable AMH, carrier of SMA, MTHFR homozygous C677T, high cytokines, low IGg B cells, Factor XIII V34l mutation, High Anti-Phosphatidylethanolmine, borderline hypothyroid and mildly insulin resistant.

   

  MH: No known issues, aside from MTHFR.

   

  Recommendations from RI: LIT, Humira, IVIG, Lovenox, Baby Aspirin, Folic Acid, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.

   

  Currently taking:  Pre-Natal vitamins, Foltanx, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin. 

   

  When cycling also taking: Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, Humira and IVIG.

   

  TTC since 7/11/09..with medical intervention starting in 2010, including 4 failed IVF's and 6 failed IUI's...only "success" was a chemical pregnancy in 11/2012 (credited to use of DE).

  FET #1 (11th cycle) on 8/23/13 = BFN.

  FET #2 (12th cycle) Transfer of last two (day 6) donor egg blasts on 1/22/14 = BFP, EDD = 10/10/14 (please stick little BOY!)

   

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• Km672 member

  March 2013

  I am so sorry you are going through this.

  Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

  IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

  Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

  DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

  DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

  DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

  FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

  DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

  FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

  Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

  New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

  FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

   

   

   

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