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My update: The most effed up morning of my life

I had my ultrasound at the RE's office done today. My betas weren't that great so we were hopeful, but still knew anything was possible.

The nurse did the ultrasound, poked around for a bit, and ultimately said "There is nothing there. We should see a sac at least."

And the other nurse said "So it's chemical?"

Nurse doing u/s says "no, probably ectopic."

Neither are doctors, just part time nurses. Anyway, they called the doctor, sent over their blank images and said they had to take a beta to see the numbers going down. I told her that I had a tilted uterus, and I've read stories where women don't see sacs but they do later. She looked at me and said "There is no hope." and just shook her head. The other nurse agreed.

We left the office devastated. We came home and just bawled like babies. I felt so robbed, like I had lost my child and will never even get a funeral. I just cried to the point where I was choking with my husband holding me.

The scary part now is that we were facing ectopic, so we needed answers there. DH urged me to call my OB and see if they could do some special imaging that might locate where the pregnancy landed.

Luckily, they got us right in. I was expecting for him to possibly find where the wayward pregnancy had ended up, but fully expected him to agree that there was no hope.

Within 10 seconds of his initial ultrasound, HE FOUND THE SAC. Right smack dab in my uterus. He said that we should not give up hope. It looked right in line with my betas, which yes are low, but it was right in line.

I am supposed to go back on Tuesday for another beta and Wed for another ultrasound with my OB, and never ever again with my RE's nurses. I could seriously strangle them. They took years off of our lives.

There's my update, and I'm glad it has a happy ending....for now. :) 

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Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
DH: Severe MFI

12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

My ovaries are just for decoration

12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
 
9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

Snowflake baby is a girl! 
Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!   
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Re: My update: The most effed up morning of my life

  • Oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!! I'm bawling! I'm gonna keep you in my prayers lady! This is awesome weekend news!!!!!!! 3
     36 DH 33 TTC for over 3 years
    First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN
    Switching RE
    IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH!
    BFN
    IVF #3 March 2013~Tesa with back-up Donor Sperm,Tesa, unsuccessful used DS~ Chemical :(   

    Switching RE's within practice

    2 frosties waiting for us, November 2013!!!!!   Transferred 2 "average" blasts 11/20/2013
    BFP!!!!!!!  Boy/Girl Twins!!!!!! Due 08/08/2014

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  • Oh my gosh!!!  Fantastic news!!!  Congratulations and everything crossed that the worst part of this pregnancy is in the past and it's all downhill from here!!!
    TTC since 10/09 Me-43 DH-44 RE and testing 10/10-11/10, Recommending IVF 1/11 New RE AMA and DOR-DH low motility IVF #1.1 cancelled 3/11 due to poor response IVF #1.2 May 2011, one perfect 8-cell embryo, 3dt-BFN, IVF #2.1 Converted to IUI d/t poor response. New RE 9/2011. IVF 2.2 completed using HGH,EPP,DHEA, Q-10 and accupuncture. Transferred one 8-cell, grade one embryo on 10/19. BFP 10/31/11 Chemical pregancy on 11/2/11. Started stims for IVF #3, our final try, on 12-2-11. ET on 12/18. Transferred 3 Grade A embryos-BFFN Planning DE IVF, late March/early April- Donors ER expected to be 4/2-4/4. PAIF/SAIF welcome
  • Good news!  Happy that you are still in the game!

    Was either u/s internal (vaginal) or just abdominal?  This early on, I thought only an internal scan would show something.  Wondering if 2 different scanning methods resulted in different views of the womb.

    My friend has a tilted ute and she didn't see a hb until 8 or 9 weeks - long after one should be detected.  Her betas were going up (not perfect rising levels, but still upwards).  She held out and they finally found the hb and she went on to have a full term pg and take home baby.

    I have a tilted ute too. On one of  my cycles, my RE could not find a hb one day at around 8 weeks (after we had seen a hb for 2 weeks already on several different scans). I refused to believe the pg was over and just knew I was still pg.  I went to a different dr 2 days later and they found the hb.  Unfortunately, though, I ultimately did lose that pg / baby at a later date.

    Have everything crossed for you!

  • OMG!!!!!!!! This is the best news!!!!! I am so sorry for what the stupid nurses put you through!!!!! FX for continued fab news!
    TTC since June 2011
    DX: DH (30) severe MFI, severely low count & low motility
    Me (32): all clear
    Appt with Urologist 5/21/12: exam, ultrasound, bloodwork all normal.
    Testicular Biopsy with TESE on 6/8/12. good sperm found! (left side only) froze sperm, failed thaw test :(
    Orientation for IVF/ICSI on 6/13/12. Waiting for the green light following biopsy results...results show adequate sperm production both sides.
    2nd SA 6/18/12: sample is "adequate for ICSI"
    Plan: IVF/ICSI July 2012!
    ER: 7/26/12. 15 eggs retrieved, all mature.
    TESE/TESA/aspiration from epididymis, no motile sperm found :(
    froze all eggs, the saga of praying for good sperm continues.
    8/3/12: 2nd opinion from MFI uro on biopsy slides. Suspects "partial late maturation arrest."
    Plan: more SAs, third biopsy/TESE with frozen back-up either from DH or DS.
    SA 8/17/12: Zero sperm
    SA 8/23/12: Zero sperm
    9/26/12: SPERM FOUND! 15 eggs thawed, 12 survived and were ICSI'd, only 3 fertilized normally. Refrozen as embies and will thaw in Nov. Please survive and grow!
    All 3 survived the thaw on 11/15/12!
    FET 11/17/12: transferred 2, one 4B, one 4C. Beta 11/30:BFFN
    moving on to DS
    DIUI#1 2/18/13,50mg Clomid cd 3-7, Ovidrel trigger, Beta 3/4/13: BFN.
    DIUI#2 3/19/13, 50 mg Clomid cd 3-7, Ovidrel trigger, Beta #1 (14dpiui) 4/2/13: BFP!!!! 150. Beta #2 4/4/13: 420 Beta #3 4/8/13: 2691. Beta #4 4/15/13: 15,086
    1st u/s 4/8/13 shows one gestational sac
    2nd u/s 4/15/13 shows yolk sac, fetal pole and early heartbeat
    3rd u/s 4/25/13: measuring right on track. Heart rate 148 bpm
    A/S 7/22/13: IT'S A BOY!!
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  • OMG!! I am so glad you got better news at the OB! and a major WTF to the RE's office. Gah! But so glad you had better news.

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • This is just what I wanted to hear! I'm so happy for you but am sorry for what your RE's office put you through.
    Me:41 DOR, DH:48 MFI (low count, morph and motility) TTC since Nov 2011 IVF #1 Dec 2012 Cancelled due to poor response Pursuing DE in 2013 All welcome
  • Great news!  Hang in there, I know it is hard.

    This is why (and I trained as a mid level health care practitioner so yes, I know what they are trained to do), I refuse to receive anything but the most basic of care from PAs, NPs, and/or midwives.  For me, its a physician all the way, and one who's been in practice for years at that.

    I am so sorry that you had to go through this, but things are looking up.

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    2/12-5/12: 4 IUI cycles = all BFN;
    7/12: DE IVF # 1 (with ICSI)- 20R, 16M, 14F, 5DT of 2 blasts; 6 frosties = BFN;
    Lupus anticoagulant initially high, then found to be normal on hematology consult;
    Follow up testing in September all clear;
    Started synthroid for "high normal" TSH;
    FET # 1- late October 2012- BFP on FRER; beta # 1- 21(low), beta # 2- 48 (still low), beta # 3- 132, beta # 4- 1,293; beta # 5- 5,606; last beta- over 100,000. First u/s 11/21- heard heartbeat
    12/12- Officially an OB patient!
    Level 2 ultrasound at 20 weeks shows vasa previa and VCI
    Referral to MFM and mandatory c section for delivery
    Beautiful baby girl born at 34 weeks
    Finally home after 15 day NICU stay!
    Trying for sibling: FET # 2- May 2014; beta 5/31, BFN
    FET #3, early July 2014; beta 7/14, BFN
    DE IVF # 2- August 2014; 14R, 13M, 11F, 5dt of 2 blasts (3 AA), 5 frosties = BFN
    FET #4- December 2014, yet another BFN

    Dr. KK work up shows borderline uterine blood flow, elevated NK cells, and MTHFR mutation (homozygous for c677t)

    Added baby aspirin, prednisone, supplements, Metanx, and intralipids

    Switched to large clinic for final attempt; had endometrial receptivity testing in January; FET March 2015 = yet another BFN

    Likely OAD- NBC

  • Wow I can't believe you guys had to go through that!! But thank god someone knows what they are doing and found the sac!! Omg like you needed to go through that! Sorry but so happy for you!!!! Fx for your next ultrasound!!!
    Me 34 and DH 39 married in aug. 2002
    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
    BFN on fet #3
    Last and FINAL FET coming JAN 28th 2015
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  • Thinking of you and your family..hoping you get some good news soon!
    Married Since 09/2006, TTC Since 09/2010 
    DX: Unexplained infertility, DH normal 
    3 Femara cycles - Oct, Nov, Dec 2011, all BFNs 
    IVF #1, ER 2/15 (5R, 4M, 4F), ET 2/18, Beta 2/29 = BFN :( 
    Follistim + IUI on 6/25 = BFN 
    Home Study Finalized 8/14/12! Profile Active - 8/17/12! 
    Officially Matched 8/29/12, Our perfect angel born 9/25/12! 
    Biggest surprise ever, unexpected BFP on 4/12/13! 

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  • Wow...what a day for you and YH. So emtional and draining. Thumbs up for YH!! Hopefully it is easy peasy for the remainder 9 months!!

    ME:46 MH:44 DE IVF 2014
    Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive.  Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)

    DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN  DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!


     

     

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  • Liz! Oh my, I read your earlier post on mobile and logged on now to write a reply...and saw this post instead! OMG, I am so happy for you but uber angry at those two nurses. I hope you call and provide some feedback on that experience! What a horrible roller coaster but I am *so glad* your baby is looking as it should at this point. Phew. FX for you and your baby!
    Lil'mamaz was born on Aug 21, 2014! She's PERFECT!

    It's been a long road to here...
    Me (43) and J (45) - same sex couple. And we don't feel 40+!
    June'12 - First RE Visit
    Sept. '12 - Tubes removed
    Dec. '12 - Donor Egg/Donor Sperm IVF Cycle - 4 good embies!
    Dec. '12 - Fresh transfer, BFP! EDD 8/29/13
    Mar. '13 - Missed m/c at 16w1d, baby boy stopped growing at 15w4d
    Loss due to umbilical cord clot...baby was perfect. :(
    Jul '13 - FET#1 - c/p
    Sept. '13 - FET#2 - BFN
    Dec.' 2, 2013 - FET#3 with our last chance embie - BFP!!!
    Dec' 26, 2013 - hb!!
    EDD 8/20/14 with a baby girl!
    Little S was born on 8/21/14 - 8lb, 14 oz and 20 inches long.
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  • Wow.  That is one reason why the nurses and even the u/s techs at our MFM practice were never allowed to tell us ANYTHING.  I'm so sorry for your scare, but SO happy for you that they found the baby!!!
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  • what a roller coaster ride.  I would have had a nervous breakdown.  Hope it continues on a happy path with no more scarry rides.
    Married since 2004 Primary POF Foster parent but have no had an adoption trying embryo adoption Just want a forever baby RE jacksonville FL FIRM
  • Wow!?!? I went through all the emotions with that story, sadness, joy, anger and hope. I'm tired even reading that- I can't believe you had to live it! 

    My heart goes out to you and I'm sending you all my positive thoughts.  


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  • What a terrible experience!  I'm so glad it ended well.  I want to ring those nurse's necks for that crappy information.  I can't believe they are allowed to  work with real patients.  Sounds like they need more training (both technical and sensitivity!)

     

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    Egg retrieval 2/27 - 27 eggs, 24 mature, 19 fertilized
    Embryo transfer 3/4 - 2 beautiful, hatching blasts and nothing left to freeze.  Beta #1 461 9dp5dt. Beta #2 1230 11dp5dt.
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  • So happy to read a happy ending but seriously the nurses at your RE's office are horrible!! I'm so sorry you had to go through that! I hope you report what happened ot someone who will listen. They really should know better. Gosh!

    Anyhoo - congratulations!!! Super happy for you!

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  • Ok, I want to smack those two ding dongs upside the head!  I am SO glad that you got positive news and can remain hopeful.  This is wonderful!
     
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    Omg Liz, this is crazy!

    I'm still trying to keep up with you through your blog, know you and YH are in my thoughts.

    I hope the next ultrasound is amazing and finally gives you some much needed assurance. Hang in there, lady!

    Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

    IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

    Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

    DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

    DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

    DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

    FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

    DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

    FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

    Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

    New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

    FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

     

     

     

  • Thank you so much for the support, ladies. It means the world. Praying for an appointment to just be "normal" for once! I would kill for a doctor to just say "everything looks great. Have a wonderful day!"

    ************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************
    Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
    Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
    DH: Severe MFI

    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
    8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

    My ovaries are just for decoration

    12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
    2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
    2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
    3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

    6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
     
    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
    9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
    9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

    11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
    11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
    Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
    6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

    Snowflake baby is a girl! 
    Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!   
    My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
     
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  • Wow, amazing!!! I hope those nurses are eating crow right now.
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    BFP#1 1/31/12, EDD 10/6/12 Harrison Gray born sleeping @ 18w6d. You changed our lives little guy.
    BFP#2 EDD 10/29/13, C/P 2/25/13, Bye little Ish, we barely got to know you.
    BFP#3 EDD 12/21/13, Baby Boots born 11/23/13 My rainbow baby!
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