Pregnant after a Loss

Hcg experts please come in

So I have had 5 betas so far. My doctor is not pleased and is unsure if I have a viable pregnancy. I know that only an u/s can determine at this point. The nurse said no matter what my doctor likes numbers to double. I thought they slowed down. Here are my numbers:
2/11 142.2
2/13 300
2/20 2190
2/23 4028
2/25 5856

Thanks ladies. I am so stressed...
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Re: Hcg experts please come in

  • I'm sorry you are going through this. Ugh, the stress of these early weeks is so horrible.

    I don't consider myself an expert by any means but I believe the general wisdom is that the rise slows down as you get into the 1000s. And most people look for the doubling in 72 hours.

    When is your u/s scheduled? What does your doc want you to do until then?
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  • I'm no DR but I think they are good. according to betabase the 13th-20th you have a doubling time of 58.58...which I still think it's good cause thats about the point it starts slowing down if im not mistaken.

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    beta#1 7.18.14 - 149 || beta#2 7.21.14 - ??


  • imagelovethebosox:
    I'm sorry you are going through this. Ugh, the stress of these early weeks is so horrible.

    I don't consider myself an expert by any means but I believe the general wisdom is that the rise slows down as you get into the 1000s. And most people look for the doubling in 72 hours.

    When is your u/s scheduled? What does your doc want you to do until then?
    nothing until the ultrasound which will be march 5
    BFP #1 4/6/09; EDD 12/6/09; miscarriage 4/10/09..............BFP #2 5/3/09; DD born 1/9/10........BFP #3 12/15/12, EDD 8/31/13; baby stopped growing at 5w3d; natural miscarriage..........BFP #4 2/8/13, EDD 10/20/13; missed miscarriage discovered 9w2d; d/c.......BFP #5 10/22/13, EDD 7/8/13; miscarriage 10/28/13..... BFP #6 11/19/13; DS born 7/29/14 {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker} {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker}
  •  They rarely continue to double every 48 hours once they start getting above 1000. Besides, now that you are over 6 weeks it would make much more sense to just do an ultrasound. Ultrasounds trump betas.

    FWIW, I think your betas are just fine. I'm not sure why your doctor is scaring you...I think he is highly misinformed.


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  • imagelovethebosox:
    I'm sorry you are going through this. Ugh, the stress of these early weeks is so horrible.

    I don't consider myself an expert by any means but I believe the general wisdom is that the rise slows down as you get into the 1000s. And most people look for the doubling in 72 hours.

    When is your u/s scheduled? What does your doc want you to do until then?
    nothing until the ultrasound which will be march 5. A entire week away :
    BFP #1 4/6/09; EDD 12/6/09; miscarriage 4/10/09..............BFP #2 5/3/09; DD born 1/9/10........BFP #3 12/15/12, EDD 8/31/13; baby stopped growing at 5w3d; natural miscarriage..........BFP #4 2/8/13, EDD 10/20/13; missed miscarriage discovered 9w2d; d/c.......BFP #5 10/22/13, EDD 7/8/13; miscarriage 10/28/13..... BFP #6 11/19/13; DS born 7/29/14 {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker} {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker}
  • imagelovethebosox:
    I'm sorry you are going through this. Ugh, the stress of these early weeks is so horrible.

    I don't consider myself an expert by any means but I believe the general wisdom is that the rise slows down as you get into the 1000s. And most people look for the doubling in 72 hours.

    When is your u/s scheduled? What does your doc want you to do until then?
    nothing until the ultrasound which will be march 5. A entire week away :
    BFP #1 4/6/09; EDD 12/6/09; miscarriage 4/10/09..............BFP #2 5/3/09; DD born 1/9/10........BFP #3 12/15/12, EDD 8/31/13; baby stopped growing at 5w3d; natural miscarriage..........BFP #4 2/8/13, EDD 10/20/13; missed miscarriage discovered 9w2d; d/c.......BFP #5 10/22/13, EDD 7/8/13; miscarriage 10/28/13..... BFP #6 11/19/13; DS born 7/29/14 {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker} {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker}
  • imagelovethebosox:
    I'm sorry you are going through this. Ugh, the stress of these early weeks is so horrible.

    I don't consider myself an expert by any means but I believe the general wisdom is that the rise slows down as you get into the 1000s. And most people look for the doubling in 72 hours.

    When is your u/s scheduled? What does your doc want you to do until then?
    nothing until the ultrasound which will be march 5. A entire week away :
    BFP #1 4/6/09; EDD 12/6/09; miscarriage 4/10/09..............BFP #2 5/3/09; DD born 1/9/10........BFP #3 12/15/12, EDD 8/31/13; baby stopped growing at 5w3d; natural miscarriage..........BFP #4 2/8/13, EDD 10/20/13; missed miscarriage discovered 9w2d; d/c.......BFP #5 10/22/13, EDD 7/8/13; miscarriage 10/28/13..... BFP #6 11/19/13; DS born 7/29/14 {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker} {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red51\green51\blue51;\red255\green255\blue255;} \deftab720 \pard\pardeftab720\sl280\partightenfactor0 \f0\fs22 \cf2 \cb3 \expnd0\expndtw0\kerning0 \outl0\strokewidth0 \strokec2 Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker}
  • I think your betas look great. No matter what the doctor "likes" it's just a fact that after a certain level your hcg won't double every 48 hours. I would ask for an ultrasound. Hang in there.
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  • Honestly, it looks great to me. I'm not an expert by any means, but they appear to be rising at a rate that is definitely appropriate.

    U/S trumps betas at this point. After 1000, doubling time slows. 

    I could understand if you're doc wouldn't be pleased about numbers that were really low, but these numbers I don't see why he wouldn't be happy. 

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  • I agree with PP's. I'm sorry your doctor is so insensitive.
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  • I'm not am hcg expert, but I agree with the PP's. I would see if they will do an u/s before March 5.

    I'm sorry you're going through this. (((hugs)))

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  • i agree with everyone else.  My RE only does beta's until you're over 2000, then schedules an u/s.

    At this point, an u/s is much more reliable than betas-they only tell you so much.  Try not to worry until the 5th! (i know, easier said than done!)

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  • The higher the number gets, the slower the doubling time is.

     

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    Your betas are high enough that a normal doubling time is 96 hours.  I'm sorry your doctor is making you nervous.  FX for a good u/s next week. 


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  • Thanks ladies. You have helped me feel more optimistic. I am not going to push for the u/s any earlier. In a full week it should be 100% conclusive I would think. I am afraid if I ask for it to be pushed till Friday I could still be in limbo land. Monday I am swamped at work so next Tuesday it will be. Thanks again
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