Baby wise.....

Ninja77 · February 2013

DH & I started reading this book today... He wants to try it out, I'm on the fence. Anyone here using this method and have feedback or suggestions ? TIA!

brachysira · February 2013

Big discussion on cloth board about this yesterday: https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/72219108.aspx. Some good links in this post. Main points were that this book has bad advice if you follow it too closely, but maybe some helpful ideas. Links say that method is linked to some baby weight gain issues, etc. and that author Ezzo is a religious figure without training to give advice on babies. My own view is to skip all "methods" and instead take the best from what you read and do what seems right.

drpayne · February 2013

Hell. No.

I'm not opposed to CIO methods like Ferber for older babies but baby wise is too rigid, too soon. Newborns are not meant to be put on schedules, period.

Mee83shell · February 2013

drpayne:
Hell. No. I'm not opposed to CIO methods like Ferber for older babies but baby wise is too rigid, too soon. Newborns are not meant to be put on schedules, period.

This exactly. You shpuld not be attempting to gey a baby this little on a schedule. That is just absurd

PrideandJoy29 · February 2013

No way.

MrsT1108 · February 2013

Stay far far away from that book.

jobiann · February 2013

I agree, follow the points you like and adjust the rest. Even the book says, do what you think is best for your baby...you can change the guidelines and still get good results. My LO's doctor followed it and her now three month old is STTN for at least 8 hours. She said she didn't follow it exactly, they just did what they thought was best.

mben1119 · February 2013

drpayne:
Hell. No. I'm not opposed to CIO methods like Ferber for older babies but baby wise is too rigid, too soon. Newborns are not meant to be put on schedules, period.

This, exactly. Babywise is a load of dangerous sh!t.

2u2wow · February 2013

i liked the schedule of it - i used it VERY loosely...

more just the point of feeding when baby got up as opposed to feeding to sleep. then i'd try to feed and let baby have awake time before attempting to put them to sleep.

however...that only works during the day

i don't believe in CIO at all though!

Ninja77 · February 2013

Thank you all for your candid responses. One of the many reasons I like this board!!

Just some more info since I posted at a late night feeding last night.....

Our concern and my prompt for this question is last week he started hardly napping at all during the day (maybe a total of 30 minutes until "bedtime"). If I tried to put him down he would cry soooo bad - which broke my heart. I don't embrace the CIO method bc it is just so sad (and I do agree, probably more so for me than him), but what I was finding was I was getting nothing done, not sleeping, eating or anything- bad combo. Then I read an article about how crucial rest is for a new baby and brain development. This alarmed me. So here we are.

As always I am open to any advice you may have. Thanks ladies

nanabanana06 · February 2013

No, just no.

That book is dangerous. Babies have been diagnosed 'Failure to Thrive' thanks to parents following that book. It's just wrong.

Ninja77 · February 2013

brachysira:
Big discussion on cloth board about this yesterday: https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/72219108.aspx. Some good links in this post. Main points were that this book has bad advice if you follow it too closely, but maybe some helpful ideas. Links say that method is linked to some baby weight gain issues, etc. and that author Ezzo is a religious figure without training to give advice on babies. My own view is to skip all "methods" and instead take the best from what you read and do what seems right.

I couldnt get the link to work or find the thread...

momofmanyinthemitten · February 2013

My biggest mistake as a FTM was not realizing that LO wouldn't just go to sleep when she was tired. Plus, she was easily overstimulated, so that made for some long days of a crying and screaming baby. With this baby, I make sure I help him go to sleep after an hour of awake time. He will only fall asleep on us, but that's better than not sleeping. He doesn't like sleeping on his own, so every few days, I bedshare with him in the guest bed so we all get a good night's sleep. If I can, I let him nap on me so he'll get more sleep, but otherwise, he just gets short naps in the PnP, swing, bouncy chair, or crib.

DCKate · February 2013

Please stay far away from this book. My daughter is 8 weeks old. I'm always tired, I'm losing weight b/c I'm trying to eat on the fly and I haven't waxed my eye brows in I don't know how long. I know we're all tired, but I think we're supposed to be right now.

Do what's best for you, but stay away from this book!

Ninja77 · February 2013

My biggest concern isnt so much getting things done- this is a teeny tiny piece of it. The larger concern was the article I read about the importance of newborns needing to nap throughout the day to promote healthy brain growth. And maybe it was an extremist article that freaked me out, but it made sense while reading it.

Yes, he does like the carrier for sure.

beckpreg · February 2013

We fed on demand until around 10 weeks and only then did I decide to read about a possible feeding schedule. we follow this loosely to say the least. I DO like the eat, play, sleep idea. It seems to make for a better nap time if I dont let him fall asleep during feedings, but instead keep him awake and wear him out with play and engagement first. That part, I will say is good but as for the feeding schedule, you have to decide what works for you and baby.

Mee83shell · February 2013

Ninja77:
Thank you all for your candid responses. One of the many reasons I like this board!!
Just some more info since I posted at a late night feeding last night.....
Our concern and my prompt for this question is last week he started hardly napping at all during the day (maybe a total of 30 minutes until "bedtime"). If I tried to put him down he would cry soooo bad - which broke my heart. I don't embrace the CIO method bc it is just so sad (and I do agree, probably more so for me than him), but what I was finding was I was getting nothing done, not sleeping, eating or anything- bad combo. Then I read an article about how crucial rest is for a new baby and brain development. This alarmed me. So here we are.
As always I am open to any advice you may have. Thanks ladies

#1 he's too little to CIO so please don't go there

#2 he will get it figured out--sometimes during periods of rapid development or meeting a milestone--they do stop sleeping for a bit. They always start sleeping again.

#3 It's hard, but catch a catnap wherever you can. & i suggest when you go to the grocery store--come home & cut up your veggies & put them in the fridge in serving sizes so you can grab a quick snack whenever you need it.

Also, if you get a baby carrier of some sort (like a moby or a ring sling etc) you can "wear baby" and sleep with them on b/c you can't drop them. Not lay down of course, but sit up in the rocking chair or sit propped in bed.

BSternad · February 2013

I followed it loosely for the exact same reasons. my little one was all over the place with naps and feeding and I was fearful I was not giving her enough to eat and if that was why she wasn't napping long. I tried a loose schedule just to help her to start sleeping through the night and within three days she was sleeping 7-8 hours through the night and 1.5 hour naps during the day. She was a happier baby because she was getting rest. EVERY baby book will tell you babies need rest and that plays a role on their sleeping pattern.. for my daugther if she woke early from a nap I fed her. Dr. Ezzo doesn't say dismiss feeding your child. This book was a lifesaver for us and never did I feel like I was placing my daughter on a rigid schedule. she naps, she eats and she has playtime..Every baby does that.

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