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Food, sleep, couple of questions

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First is an XP from 9-12: 

Does anyone have a good resource that shows an average of how much milk/solids babies should be consuming, by age? My boys are 10 months old, still EBF, 3 small solids a day. But they also still nurse through the night, and I'm hoping to rule out the hunger need at night by figuring out what exactly they should take in during the day.

My other question is about sleep training:

If you felt the need to separate your twins for sleep training, but didn't have the room to do it, what did you do? We have 3 bedrooms: ours, my oldest son, and the twins. Last night I had to pull Ben into our room and shut the door on Alex b/c he just wanted to play at 4:45 am. I feel like if we are going to get serious about sleep training (which we have to, I'm dying here) I need them separated, but don't know how to do it.

TIA for any help!!!

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  • xoexpatxoexpat member
    I can't offer any help, but I'm anxious to see what others have to say.  Mine are still younger than yours, but I have similar questions!  Right now we have both cribs in our room!  It's a little tight, but they are still eating in the night.  Hopefully someone can offer us their sage advice!
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    My boys are younger but I have found this calculator to be reliable. From what I understand the amount stays pretty consistent throughout the first year depending on the number of feedings, from 28 to 32 oz. But I do believe the composition and fat amount in the milk changes as they get older. It's in an article about pumping but should still be relevant to directly nursing as well. https://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/#howmuch

     

    I also need to get serious about sleep training. Our days and nights get worse by the day!! ;( 

     

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    My boys are younger but I have found this calculator to be reliable. From what I understand the amount stays pretty consistent throughout the first year depending on the number of feedings, from 28 to 32 oz. But I do believe the composition and fat amount in the milk changes as they get older. It's in an article about pumping but should still be relevant to directly nursing as well. https://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/#howmuch

    I also need to get serious about sleep training. Our days and nights get worse by the day!! ;( 

    I'm actually more curious about ounces of solids... I'm wondering if I'm not offering them enough solids. They exclusively nurse, so I have no idea how much milk they take in, but I'm still ravenously hungry all the time, so I think they are still hitting me hard...

    I guess I'm just trying to make sure that the nighttime nursing is for comfort and not actual hunger, so that if we try to cut those nursing sessions, it's not going to be detrimental to them...

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    imageemilyec1:

    My boys are younger but I have found this calculator to be reliable. From what I understand the amount stays pretty consistent throughout the first year depending on the number of feedings, from 28 to 32 oz. But I do believe the composition and fat amount in the milk changes as they get older. It's in an article about pumping but should still be relevant to directly nursing as well. https://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/#howmuch

    I also need to get serious about sleep training. Our days and nights get worse by the day!! ;( 

    I'm actually more curious about ounces of solids... I'm wondering if I'm not offering them enough solids. They exclusively nurse, so I have no idea how much milk they take in, but I'm still ravenously hungry all the time, so I think they are still hitting me hard...

    I guess I'm just trying to make sure that the nighttime nursing is for comfort and not actual hunger, so that if we try to cut those nursing sessions, it's not going to be detrimental to them...

     

    I gotcha! If this is helpful, I also have this link that a friend sent me that discusses both solids and milk. I found it to be slightly different than my pedi's recommendations, but even the pedi's nurse and the pedi told me different things, so I decided I'm not going to take anything literally anymore since everyone says something different. ha! ;)  Good luck to you in the night feed dept...I am still doing one night feed. My pedi said I can drop it, but I certainly don't want to be the one to share the news with my twins..plus they wake often during the night and it's hard to tell when/if it's from hunger or habit or who knows. I've been doing a feeding b/w 1-2 am since they were about 3/4 months old because I'm not sure what else to do! GL... 

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    Forgot the link...super-baby-brain today...

     

    https://www.superkidsnutrition.com/nutrition-articles/life-stage/infants_toddlers/babysfirstfoods/bff_introductionsolids/ 

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    I can tell you what we do, which might not be the answer for you...

    Mine are on formula. I would say they get 20-28 oz of formula depending on the day. Here is a day of eating:

    6am - 8 oz bottle

    8:30am - breakfast. they each get one whole serving of fruit puree (3.5 oz) and cereal. On weekends we will do actual fruit, waffles, pancakes, etc.

    10am - 6 oz bottle

    12pm - lunch. one whole veggie puree (3.5 oz), or whole veggie (carrots, squash, etc) and cereal.  

    2:00pm - 6 oz bottle

    3:30ish - snack (sometimes depending on the day, naps, etc) puffs, cheerios, applesauce, yogurt

    5:30 - dinner. veggie puree, veggies, chicken breast, bread, puffs,cereal. It really varies!

    6:30pm - 8 oz bottle 

     

    As for sleep training, we kept ours in the same room. We only have two bedrooms. DD was really the crier, and DS slept through it. When DS would cry, it would wake up DD and I can recall one rough night where the two of them cried for 30+ minutes. I think hearing the other escalated them. It was the perfect storm. But...it was only that one time and things have been good since. We did it at 6 months. 

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    imageemilyec1:

    Forgot the link...super-baby-brain today...

    https://www.superkidsnutrition.com/nutrition-articles/life-stage/infants_toddlers/babysfirstfoods/bff_introductionsolids/ 

    Thank you, I will check it out! YEah, I'm not looking forward to breaking the news to my boys either, hahaha, they tend to get PISSED when things don't go their way =)

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    imageBreezy8407:

    I can tell you what we do, which might not be the answer for you...

    Mine are on formula. I would say they get 20-28 oz of formula depending on the day. Here is a day of eating:

    6am - 8 oz bottle

    8:30am - breakfast. they each get one whole serving of fruit puree (3.5 oz) and cereal. On weekends we will do actual fruit, waffles, pancakes, etc.

    10am - 6 oz bottle

    12pm - lunch. one whole veggie puree (3.5 oz), or whole veggie (carrots, squash, etc) and cereal.  

    2:00pm - 6 oz bottle

    3:30ish - snack (sometimes depending on the day, naps, etc) puffs, cheerios, applesauce, yogurt

    5:30 - dinner. veggie puree, veggies, chicken breast, bread, puffs,cereal. It really varies!

    6:30pm - 8 oz bottle 

     

    As for sleep training, we kept ours in the same room. We only have two bedrooms. DD was really the crier, and DS slept through it. When DS would cry, it would wake up DD and I can recall one rough night where the two of them cried for 30+ minutes. I think hearing the other escalated them. It was the perfect storm. But...it was only that one time and things have been good since. We did it at 6 months. 

    Thanks for sharing your schedule! My boys have only been doing about 2oz of food per feeding, so I think I'm going to start offering a bit more and see if they want it... I think they are ready for more solids, just don't want to go too fast with the change. Thanks again!
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  • mirnbmirnb member

    I found this site helpful!

    https://www.babycenter.com/0_age-by-age-guide-to-feeding-your-baby_1400680.bc

     

    As far as sleep training if they are always going to share a room I would sleep train them this way as well. I successfully did this with my boys and they really do learn quickly to sleep through each others noise....I find the only time they wake each other is if they are close to waking anyways (i.e.: close to the end of nap time if one wakes and is being noisy the other will soon follow, which I prefer as we have always done one up, both up) As far as middle of the night crying or playing they can sleep peacefully through each others noise no problem....I truly think it is whatever they become accustom to!  

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