The post below about pregnancy announcements made me think...what annoyed you or bothered you the most that other people did when you were going through IF? IF is such a personal experience for everyone that I would really like to hear about everyone else's thoughts. I was one that was not too bothered by people getting knocked up or having babies...unless they were like crack whores or something. It bothered me a little, but it wasn't too bad. And I loved to hear "success" stories. Yet, I know other people who didn't want to hear success stories and couldn't be around pregnant women or babies.
For me, it would really bother me when people downplayed IF or acted like it wasn't a "real" problem or wasn't something I should be upset about. I got this alot from family members. I come from a pretty prolific family and because I was young at the time, I seemed to get alot of people who treated me like "it would just take time" or who didn't "get" that even though my age was only 30 or 31, my levels were that of a woman in her late 40's.
Or the other thing I would get alot of was people acting like I should just be happy with the life I had -- DH and I were both successful with great careers and this should be enough. I remember my Mother even telling me about my cousin having a miscarriage and saying something like, "Well, at least you didn't have that happen..." Was I supposed to feel better because something horrible happened to someone else? I didn't. I just felt bad for her, too, and then worried if I ever did get pregnant I might have the same problem.


Re: What bothered you the most when going through IF?
I hated that people in my own family seemed to not really believe that I was IF. I think I was told by my mother on more than one occasion that I needed to relax. I had to have a pretty serious conversation around that one!
I loved success stories, and I still do.
I hated pregnancy announcements among my family and friends when I was TTC. They don't bother me any more.
I think I was most frustrated during my IF journey in that I knew IVF would be the way to go, but that I had to wait to find the money to do it. I am not patient, and waiting to do treatments was so very hard. But because my IF is semi-unexplained, I was still trying and failing month after month on my own, and that was really hard to bear as well.
IVF #1 ET 1 d3 embryo 10/30/11 BFP
3 Embryos frozen (1 d5, 2 d6)
DS born 07/29/12
FET #1 ET 1 d5 embryo 02/10/15 BFN
FET #2 1 d6 embryo didn't survive thaw, transferred last d6. CP
As someone whose first experience with infertility was while trying to conceive our second child, I can't even count how many times people told me that I should just be happy with the child I had at home, as if I wasn't. It's because I loved my little boy so much that I wanted more children. I also got a lot of "just relax" comments although, and I hate to say this, I believe my husbands sperm did get better once he was no longer working 3rd shift and he was getting into the groove of graduate school more. DOR, however, doesn't change depending on how relaxed I am.
Many people had a similar opinion after my miscarriages telling me I should be happy that I had two children. Ummmm, I am happy that I have two children but that doesn't make me any less sad that two of my children died. And, who says that anyway? No-one would ever, ever, ever say to someone who just lost their 2 year-old, oh well, at least you have a 4 year-old at home. Ugh.
Kelly, Mom to Christopher Shannon 9.27.06, Catherine Quinn 2.24.09, Trey Barton lost on 12.28.09, Therese Barton lost on 6.10.10, Joseph Sullivan 7.23.11, and our latest, Victoria Maren 11.15.12
Secondary infertility success with IVF, then two losses, one at 14 weeks and one at 10 weeks, then success with IUI and then just pure, crazy luck. Expecting our fifth in May as the result of a FET.
This Cluttered Life
Without a doubt, the most infuriating thing for us was when our friends and sometimes even people in our family would say, "You are so lucky you don't have kids" and pretend to be so annoyed at whatever their child was doing that they'd actually trade places with us and be childless.
People who said things like "you're so lucky you can go to the movies or dinner"- that I can understand even though they were still saying something I didn't like to hear. But the ones who actually said, we were lucky we didn't have kids??
What were they thinking?!
1.) Going to a million baby showers for friends/family who got knocked up after 1 to 3 months (max) of trying.
2.) My in-laws not believing that their son was practically sterile.
3.) My in-laws constantly calling me out in front of other people saying things like, "Well if Sara would ever give me some grandkids ..." WHEN THEY KNEW we were having trouble getting pregnant and were spending thousands of dollars seeing an RE.
4.) My in-laws telling me after our surprise BFP, "See, we knew there was never any issue ..."
5.) My in-laws ........ I could go on forever. Next ....
6.) People telling me we were "so young" and to "just relax and it will happen"
7.) People not believing me when I told them we were having difficulties.
8.) One of my best friends telling me endo is 'super common' and that she 'knows so many people who have it.'
9.) Friends not wanting to tell me when they were pregnant, and when they either finally would or I'd hear it from another friend they would make up some lame excuse like, "well I didn't want you to feel bad."
10.) Friends apologizing to me for bringing their kids along to things, again because they didn't want to make me feel bad.
You opened up a can of worms with this one, IBack. I could go on for freaking days!
Unexplained Infertility
After two Clomid cycles, three injectable IUI cycles, two IVFs, two miscarriages, and one lap surgery, IVF #2 has brought us our little boy!
TTC #2
After months of being postponed or cancelled, FET #1.3 (Natural FET) brought us twin girls!
Dumb comments, which of course came from people with oops or 1st try babies. Even now, the general misinformation about TTC, "relaxing", improving your chances, etc. drives me up the wall.
2 years, 2 surgeries, 2 clomid fails, 2 IUIs, 1 loss, IVF #1 - 10/25/10 = BFP!, DS is now 3.5yrs!
TTC #2 - 6/12 surgery #3, FET #1 & 1.2 = BFN, 12/2012 FET #2 = BFP! DD is 1.5 yrs!
Surprise! 12/16/14 BFP, loss #2 12/31/14
I can't wait for the "im getting a divorce" post in 5 years or so because your husbands were fed up with your disgusting chair asses from playing on the knot all day and getting fired 4-5 times for not doing any work. you guys are all winners!! ~ Laur929
I hate how people seem to have so little awareness of IF and can't seem to fathom that childlessness is not by choice.
I also hate how some people factor god into the equation. Believe what you want but please don't tell me you know what god's plans are for my family
I am sure I will think of other things later on.
I am enjoying reading all the responses.
FET #1 Dec 2013 BFN
FET # 2 Feb 2014 BFN
No more frosties
IVF #2. September 2014
PGD yielded 2 perfect 5d blasts
SET November 9, 2014
Nov 23, 2014. Another BFN
Not sure where to go from here.
I think the hardest thing was all the anouncements/baby bump pics on FB, mostly because they we unexpected and like daggers to the heart. I would cry for hours, to a point where I stopped logging into FB for a long time. It also made me not post a single thing about being pregnant on FB and wait several weeks after DD was born before I posted that she had arrived. I guess it made me want to spare anyone else the same pain.
Next was the casual comments b!tching about being pregnant or having kids. We went on some truly amazing international vacations when we were trying to get pregnant and struggling with IF. But the trips seemed like a consolation prize for not having a child in my arms. My cousin b!tched about getting pregnant on accident because they didn't get to take their cool trip they had been talking about since they got married. I would give back every trip we ever took to spare myself the pain of IF.
Finally, I couldn't hold or look at babies. I was terrified of an uncontrolable ugly cry. I was fine with kids. In fact, I love kids and work with them as my job/business. Now that I have a baby, I realize that by avoiding babies, friends with babies and anything to do with babies, I'm at a bit of a loss on what to do with Sweet Baby J. The only confirmed action that seems to consistently work is putting her on the boob.
Me-36, Unexplained Infertility, DH-35, all clear
Clomid 50mg 12/2011 = BFN
Clomid 100mg 1/2012 = BFN, with Cyst
IVF #1 Lupron/Menopur/Gonal-f/HCG Trigger
ER 4/19/12 = 11 retrieved, 6 fertilized,
ET 4/22/12 = 2 transfered (day 3), remaining 3 weren't good enough to freeze
Beta 5/3 = BFP, 87 Beta #2 5/7 560.9 Beta #3 5/9 1376.5 First u/s One Baby, 125bpm!
Second u/s, 176bmp! Kicked over to the OB by the RE at 8w. Team Green!!
I hated that too! My MIL, who believes we will go to hell for doing IVF, actually said after our meeting with the RE when he told us there was no choice but IVF, God doesn't want you to have children. That's okay and you should just be childless. Man, I dislike that woman!
1) Hearing all of the pregnancy announcements hurt a lot, especially when when we were being lapped 2 or 3 times! Or when people said, "it took us a while to get pregnant this time...4 months". Or even better, "we didn't think it would happen so fast. I cried for days."
2) We didn't tell many people about our IF. Just our immediate families and my best friend knew. It's kind of sad that we couldn't tell more family, but when DH's cousin makes jokes about test tube babies, you don't really feel like you can tell them.
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Trying for #1 since May 2010 l DX ~ Unexplained Infertility June 2011
IUI #1&2 = BFN; IUI #3 = BFP, m/c @ 6 weeks
November '11 ~ IVF#1 ~ ER 11/18 (29R, 17F) ~ 5dt of one beautiful blast on 11/23 = BFP!!
Beta #1 9dp5dt = 116, P4 = 28 ~ Beta #2 13dp5dt = 700 ~ Beta #3 20dp5dt = 9500, P4 = 26
1st u/s 12/27 - hb of 156!! EDD 8.10.12
**TEAM GREEN!**
Sweet baby boy born 8.18.12
Trying for #2
FET #1 - October '13 - c/p l FET #2 - December '13 - cancelled
l FET #2.2 - 1.30.14 - BFN
~ More testing - hysteroscopy, endometrial biopsy & more b/w - all normal / negative~
Surprise BFP while waiting on FET #3 ~ beta #1 500; beta #2 1600; first u/s 4/3 - measuring 5w5d, no hb yet!; 2nd u/s 4/10 - hb 132, measuring 6w6d - EDD 11.29.14
**TEAM GREEN!**
Beautiful baby girl born 11.24.14
Is your MIL Catholic? I hate, hate, HATE hearing things like this. I have a relative by marriage who will not pursue ART at all because of what the Catholic church/the Pope teaches. It breaks my heart. She has very infrequent periods (like 1-2 a year) and was diagnosed by an OB as having POF, but I have to question if that is even the problem because when she did get her CD 3 FSH taken when she had a period, it was 6--which is not indicative of POF. And she has never even had her AMH tested. I cannot fathom any sort of decent doctor who suspects POF not testing AMH.
I have suggested to her to at least get additional testing done (thinking maybe instead of POF that she has an ovulatory dysfunction) or look into even basic forms of ART (like not even IVF, but just medication), but because of her religious views she is against it. It breaks me heart because I question if she even has gotten a correct diagnosis or has incorrectly been led to believe that her situation is hopeless...and, at least from what I have been told, she won't look into anything further because of religious views.
At any rate, I just hate this view and hate that it holds women back from getting treatment that might provide them with a child.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
When people would tell me to just simply adopt and then I would get pregnant. Double slap in the face. Also, the fact that literally everyone I knew with a ute was pregnant, and some lapping me during the course of 3 years.
Also, now that I have a baby, everyone keeps saying they just know I will get a surprise BFP any day now. Makes my eye twitch.
Things that bothered me most included any "get pregnant advice" that may have worked for a fertile person but clearly the person giving the advice didn't understand a single thing about anatomy or the process of conception.
The other thing was people who actually cared about me offering to be a serrogate or offering up their eggs. Now I know that they just think that there is only one kind of infertility so it's really ignorance and not intentional, but somehow it still really bothered me.
Also the comment "well you can always adopt." Yes, I know that. Thanks for the advice. *rolls eyes*
Factor V Leiden Homozygous, Advanced Maternal Age
TTC #1, 5 yrs, PCOS, Femera + Ovidrel.
IUI#3 BFP, DD 5/31/2012
TTC #2, 2 yrs, PCOS, Femera+Ovidrel
IUI#2 BFP!
My very catholic grandma told my aunt (her DIL) that God only gives babies to women who will be good mothers. My aunt has endo and they went through a lot to get pg. Needless to say, I never talked to that grandma about IF.