June 2012 Moms

Ive changed my ways- I think we're ready

Every time Ive replied to a sleep training post, Ive been careful to add that I dont see the need right now and not be too hard on anything- because you never know. I think we're at that point. He's proven many times that he is fine to go all night without a bottle, and I had to leave the room for a minute because I was getting really angry the other night/morning. Ive never done that and I think Im ready to see what options are out there.

 I recently went to the doc for PPD/PPA (best thing Ive done in a long time) He told me that it will help me tremendously to get him sleeping through the night and to read Ferber's book. Im not a big Ferber fan and neither is our pedi, but I thought maybe I could look for something that suits us better.

Im reading the Sleep Lady Shuffle book. Any reviews? Any success stories?  Ive never been a big believer in sleep training, but she is all about schedules and encouraging sleep, so Im liking it so far.

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Re: Ive changed my ways- I think we're ready

  • I read the sleep lady book and actually worked with a sleep coach for a little bit who was trained by her.  I like that she has different approaches for different ages.  I tried for a really long time to put DD down drowsy but awake to no avail.  I don't think the sleep lady shuffle would work for DD but maybe it could work for your LO.

     GL! 

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  • I did not read any of those books but I read Sleep Easy Solution. I thought it was helpful, easy to understand, and felt like the understood as much as a book can.

     

    Good luck! 

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  • I don't have any advice about the sleep training books, but I will say that getting DD on a sleeping/eating schedule has been a life savor.  I can plan trips around her schedule rather then hoping she is not hungry or tired.  So I would definitely recommend getting baby on a schedule that works best for your family.
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  • I was not a fan of sleep training, until DD turned 6 months and was still waking 3-5 times per night. I couldn't do it anymore with my hour long commute to work. Bedsharing wasn't working anymore because she was restless the whole night.

    We did a combo of CIO and bedsharing, which doesn't make sense at the sound of it, but really worked for us. Starting at 6.5 months old, after bed time routine we would put her down drowsy but awake. She would fuss/cry for a little while. I didn't really watch the clock, just listened. Most of the time she would be winding down, the fussing quickly becoming calmer until she fell alseep. If instead her fussing was escalating into more serious crying, we would go get her and start the process all over. When she woke in the night, we'd bring her back into our bed for the remainder of the night. Gradually, we weaned her off of coming into our bed. For example, after a few nights, we'd let her fuss a bit when she woke up the first time at 10pm (going to get her if it turned into real crying), then when she woke up the next time at 12am, we'd bring her into bed. Over the course of 2 weeks, we'd push back the time we'd bring her into our bed. Now, on most nights, she will sleep from 730 - 6am. That was our experience, and it worked for us. Just wanted to give an example of a success story that didn't follow a CIO program down to the letter! 

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  • I am right there w you. It's been a terrible week and I can not function any more. I got 3 books out of the library this weekend, and sleep training starts right when I get back from my business trip on feb 15. I am reading the replies w interest bc I am in the same boat!
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    I am right there w you. It's been a terrible week and I can not function any more. I got 3 books out of the library this weekend, and sleep training starts right when I get back from my business trip on feb 15. I am reading the replies w interest bc I am in the same boat!

     

    Someone once told me when you ready(if you every are) you will no. After 6 months, I needed sleep. The lack of sleeping with bad for everyone husband, stepson, the baby and me. It was hard but it was right for us. She's a happy and healthy.

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  • My best advice to you would be to read up on some ideas and then go with what you feel comfortable with and what you think will work best with your LO.  That is what we did when we worked on sleep with my first.  I was against any CIO until about 5-6 months when I went back to work and his sleep was regressing.  This time around when I felt he was ready, I did it earlier and had the same success.  Both of my boys did the same- they cried a few times the first night, way less the 2nd, and then have slept through the night since (with the exception of when he was sick).  I will say this- with both of them, when they were crying the first night and I was checking on them, they seemed like they were worked up to where they just weren't going to get it.  All of a sudden they just rolled over and stopped crying and went to sleep.  So sometimes you might think they are not getting it when they are. I don't really look at it as training, so much as that they get to a point where they need the opportunity to figure out how to get themselves back to sleep alone.  We all wake up at night, I do often, but I know how to go back to sleep on my own.  They have to learn this as well.  At this age, it's not good for them to be eating all night and having interrupted sleep.  Just saying all of this to remind you that you are doing a good thing by working on sleep.  They don't need to eat at night anymore than you or I do.  With DS1, I first worked on getting him to drop the feeding.  When he woke up, I went to him and tucked him back in, gave him paci, whatever to get him back to sleep without eating.  I just wanted him to get used to not eating at night, even if it meant he needed help getting back to sleep, that was ok with me.  I read Ferber and somewhat did that but I went with what I wanted with the checking them etc.  It worked fine for us.  That is why I say do what you think and go with your gut.  I also started to see that when I was checking on him too much, he was getting more upset and it seemed to start the process over.  So I turned the volume down on the video monitor and just watched him to make sure he was ok until he stopped.  It didn't take long until he went to sleep.  Anyway, I can't read back over this to see if it makes sense but good luck to you.  Let us know how it goes.  Good for you for reaching out to your dr for some help too.   

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  • The way I knew it was time was that this week I was CONSTANTLY snapping at my dh and 8yr old bc I was so over tired and that is not a good way for a family to function.

    Last night dh tried to stay w LO when she was crying to come into our bed and nurse and she cried for at least 30 min... But I think the problem was that he just sat next to her crib talking to her. I think frm all I am reading the key is to leave them alone and then come back every few minutes. I think he made her more upset by just staying in there. Does that make sense?
  • Oh my gosh, Jack is so cute. I didn't read any books. Our dd was quickly outgrowing the rock and play at 6 months and I knew we had to do something. My husband slept on an inflatable bed in dd's room and let her CIO. First night there were a few spells of crying, for sure. Second night it was better, third even better, and by the fourth night she didn't cry. I don't know if this is typical or not, and I know a lot of people are against CIO, but it worked wonders for us. She doesn't cry at all when I lay her down for bed at night (it's been a few weeks)- napping is another story, ha. I just couldn't take all the books and methods- it stressed me out more. My husband being the one to be in there the first couple nights is what really allowed it to work, I think, as I probably would have cracked.  He only got up and went to her once the first night, but for some reason it made us feel better to have him in there. Good luck! 

     Um, I just wrote all that and then realized I didn't really answer your question. Ugh, sorry! 

  • Glad Im not alone! This is getting hard after almost 8mos and now that he's crawling Im just ready and I believe he's ready.

    I really like having his crib side-carred. You can kind of see our setup in my sig. He crawls over to me when he feels like it and we go to sleep. It's no big deal. He just needs a bottle to sleep. Thats what Im trying to break because when he wakes up he demands another. I just hope in doing that we dont have to give up the co sleeping just yet.

    Eta- thanks Marley :) Im really glad to hear everyone stories. Im not against the stepped crying as much as it sounds like I am. I just want to see if other things will work before Im really pulling my hair out. 

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    Oh my gosh, Jack is so cute. I didn't read any books. Our dd was quickly outgrowing the rock and play at 6 months and I knew we had to do something. My husband slept on an inflatable bed in dd's room and let her CIO. First night there were a few spells of crying, for sure. Second night it was better, third even better, and by the fourth night she didn't cry. I don't know if this is typical or not, and I know a lot of people are against CIO, but it worked wonders for us. She doesn't cry at all when I lay her down for bed at night (it's been a few weeks)- napping is another story, ha. I just couldn't take all the books and methods- it stressed me out more. My husband being the one to be in there the first couple nights is what really allowed it to work, I think, as I probably would have cracked.  He only got up and went to her once the first night, but for some reason it made us feel better to have him in there. Good luck! 

     Um, I just wrote all that and then realized I didn't really answer your question. Ugh, sorry! 

    oh, just to be clear, we were only in her room the first three nights, we sleep in our own room now. Didn't want you to think we're still in there! 

  • Good for you for having the energy to read a book about sleep training.  We were too tired to get that far.  We googled it and didn't even read the full article. 

     I think the biggest thing is being consistent.  We have a routine for the day and try to follow it within the 1/2 hour.  I think that it helps especially since LO is at daycare/at home with me/at home with SO/etc. 

     We Ferberized our LO and it took only one night, but it was a difficult night to hear him cry for 2 hours.  But since then, he has done great.  We needed it, too.  My DH and I were grouchy and fighting.  Now, we have 2-3 hours to ourselves after LO goes to bed and we can sleep through the night. 

     No one can tell you which method to do.  Just make sure that you are willing to be consistent with the one you pick.  Make sure that your SO is also on board and that both will be consistent. 

    Remember, you are going to have a few rought nights to give your LO a great gift of good sleep.  A few years from now, you probably won't even remember doing it.  This whole year will be such a blur!

     GL.  HTH.

  • Well, we started last night w a longer bedtime routine w lowered lighting and voices starting 30 min before bed. It's also night 2 of white noise. Dd only woke at 12 and 5! Hoping this is not a fluke but sticking with it.
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