Third-Party Reproduction

Any advice? (surrogacy)

I have a close friend who lost a son at 26 weeks three years ago and has been dealing with infertility ever since. She's gotten pregnant a few times and miscarried (most recently this week, she terminated an ectopic, on the anniversary of her son's passing :(.

She and I have casually broached the topic of surrogacy. I feel pretty on board - I'm done having my own kids, my body handles pregnancy well, and I want so much for her and her husband to be parents. I know she's nervous about a known donor (she thinks she could never pay me back - I could be wrong, but I don't think I would feel like she is indebted to me - not a favor but more a way to help them get something they want). I'm also not a typical surrogate - I'm older (35), a little overweight, have had two c-sections.

I'm obviously waiting for her to make the first move, but in the meantime, any advice on what I need to be considering?

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Re: Any advice? (surrogacy)

  • I haven't looked into this much, however, you might want to call a local fertility clinic and ask about their requirements for a gestational carrier or surrogate. There are some fda requirements, for example. Also, some clinics are just very protective of their success rates, while others are more flexible. Before you go to far, and potentially get her hopes up, you might just check a few things out. Also, are you suggesting using your egg, or carrying her child? Does she know if the miscarriages are egg or embryo quality issues, or are there uterine issues? Just a few thoughts. Its so generous of you to consider this!
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    It's been a long road to here...
    Me (43) and J (45) - same sex couple. And we don't feel 40+!
    June'12 - First RE Visit
    Sept. '12 - Tubes removed
    Dec. '12 - Donor Egg/Donor Sperm IVF Cycle - 4 good embies!
    Dec. '12 - Fresh transfer, BFP! EDD 8/29/13
    Mar. '13 - Missed m/c at 16w1d, baby boy stopped growing at 15w4d
    Loss due to umbilical cord clot...baby was perfect. :(
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  • image2MamazInSeattle:
    I haven't looked into this much, however, you might want to call a local fertility clinic and ask about their requirements for a gestational carrier or surrogate. There are some fda requirements, for example. Also, some clinics are just very protective of their success rates, while others are more flexible. Before you go to far, and potentially get her hopes up, you might just check a few things out. Also, are you suggesting using your egg, or carrying her child? Does she know if the miscarriages are egg or embryo quality issues, or are there uterine issues? Just a few thoughts. Its so generous of you to consider this!

    from what I understand, her eggs are viable (they were doing IVF and have a bunch of embryos) so I think a uterine issues. I would simply be a carrier, not a donor.

    "Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you've got about a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies. God damn it, you've got to be kind." - Kurt Vonnegut
  • Cool - that definitely removes some of the complexity. I'd call around and get a feel from some of your local clinics. SART is a good place to see results by clinic. Good luck!
    Lil'mamaz was born on Aug 21, 2014! She's PERFECT!

    It's been a long road to here...
    Me (43) and J (45) - same sex couple. And we don't feel 40+!
    June'12 - First RE Visit
    Sept. '12 - Tubes removed
    Dec. '12 - Donor Egg/Donor Sperm IVF Cycle - 4 good embies!
    Dec. '12 - Fresh transfer, BFP! EDD 8/29/13
    Mar. '13 - Missed m/c at 16w1d, baby boy stopped growing at 15w4d
    Loss due to umbilical cord clot...baby was perfect. :(
    Jul '13 - FET#1 - c/p
    Sept. '13 - FET#2 - BFN
    Dec.' 2, 2013 - FET#3 with our last chance embie - BFP!!!
    Dec' 26, 2013 - hb!!
    EDD 8/20/14 with a baby girl!
    Little S was born on 8/21/14 - 8lb, 14 oz and 20 inches long.
    We live in Seattle and used SRM for our donor egg IVF cycle


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  • image2MamazInSeattle:
    Cool that definitely removes some of the complexity. I'd call around and get a feel from some of your local clinics. SART is a good place to see results by clinic. Good luck!

    That was good advice and I second that!
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    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
    BFN on fet #3
    Last and FINAL FET coming JAN 28th 2015
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  • imageerbear:

    image2MamazInSeattle:
    I haven't looked into this much, however, you might want to call a local fertility clinic and ask about their requirements for a gestational carrier or surrogate. There are some fda requirements, for example. Also, some clinics are just very protective of their success rates, while others are more flexible. Before you go to far, and potentially get her hopes up, you might just check a few things out. Also, are you suggesting using your egg, or carrying her child? Does she know if the miscarriages are egg or embryo quality issues, or are there uterine issues? Just a few thoughts. Its so generous of you to consider this!

    from what I understand, her eggs are viable (they were doing IVF and have a bunch of embryos) so I think a uterine issues. I would simply be a carrier, not a donor.

    First, I wanted to say how admirable it is that you're offering to do this. What an amazing gift, you are an incredible friend.

    I did want to add that just because she got a bunch of embryos from a cycle, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is still not an egg issue causing her miscarriages. You will want to double check on the details of this just to be sure so you know you're on the right track. I wish you lots of luck!

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  • You've gotten some great advice.  Definitely check with a couple clinics (near you, preferably, since you'll be making the most trips there).  They should at least be able to give you some basic guidelines on what they require of a carrier (BMI is often a factor, but I doubt they'd balk at your age since they're not your eggs; I wouldn't think c-sections would be a concern unless you were trying to be approved through an agency). 

    I'm actually an IM (intended mother) and we're expecting our first child via gestational surrogacy after 8 years of infertility.  Smile  We're due in August.  Our GS is a friend of a friend and is doing this 100% uncompensated, however we still each got our own lawyers (my DH & paid for both) and signed a 26-page legal contract.  Even if you trust someone explicitly (like we do with our GS & her DH), it's very important to have a good lawyer and contract in place that spells out every scenario that can potentially arise.  There's a couple great surrogacy boards out there that have some great info, so definitely research those sites.  

    Good luck to you!

    Esther (38) Wife to Scott (40) Expecting our first child via the miracle of gestational surrogacy! Due 8/31/13 BabyFetus Ticker
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