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Lining Question

So uterine lining is not my forte' so here is my question:

 Does your lining change through your cycle?  At my baseline yesterday the dr. and nurse  said "I'd call it HH, wouldn't you?".  After googling (of course) HH is the pattern of lining LEAST likely to implant.  Does that mean that just for that time of the cycle it is least likely (because I had my period as well so clearly, would not be implanting anything at that point)?  I know the thickness changes but didn't know about the pattern as I had not heard of this before.

I'm confused and now scared that I am labeled forever as "the chick with the HH lining". :(

 

Me (37) DH (39); PCOS changed to Unexplained, changed to DOR in 2012 (finally a correct diagnosis!); 
Started TTC 2009 with RE after 6 months.  
Clomid + Trigger x2; 
IUI + Femara x1,
IUI + Follistim x2;
IVF #1 (MDL) February 2013- BFN.
IVF #2 (antagonist) May 2013, First BFP of my life. 
Identical twin miracle BOYS (!!) headed our way- due date is technically 2/4/14 but c section is scheduled for 1/7! 


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Re: Lining Question

  • I don't know if it can improve over the cycle. My lining was perfect during stims but we had to do a freeze all. Then I was told if my lining wasn't layered correctly for the upcoming FET, it would be canceled. So, I think the lining varies from month to month. Sorry I can't be more helpful. GL
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  • Your lining definitely changes throughout your cycle. At the beginning of the cycle, right after AF starts, because your lining is being shed, it's very thin. Then your lining will thicken up as you approach O, will stay thick if implantation takes place and then thin out again when AF comes.

    What part are you at in your cycle? Also it might be good you have a "thin lining" at this point in your cycle, some cycles are cancelled because the lining is too thick at the beginning, when it should be thin.

    GL to you. 

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  • I stopped BCP's last weekend and started AF yesterday before the baseline appointment.  So was on CD1- I don't know how thick/thin my lining was, it was more the HH "pattern" that scared me.  The other patterns I am reading about are TL and IE and all I read on google was from infertility for dummies was that HH was the one least likely to implant so I didn't know if the pattern changes along with the thickness.  Thanks! :)

     

    Me (37) DH (39); PCOS changed to Unexplained, changed to DOR in 2012 (finally a correct diagnosis!); 
    Started TTC 2009 with RE after 6 months.  
    Clomid + Trigger x2; 
    IUI + Femara x1,
    IUI + Follistim x2;
    IVF #1 (MDL) February 2013- BFN.
    IVF #2 (antagonist) May 2013, First BFP of my life. 
    Identical twin miracle BOYS (!!) headed our way- due date is technically 2/4/14 but c section is scheduled for 1/7! 


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  • I wouldn't worry too much about it right now. It makes since that since you are currently menstruating that your lining would be a pattern that would not allow an embryo to implant. As you progress through your cycle the pattern should start to change and hopefully around ovulation time your uterus will have developed a triple line pattern. Good luck to you!
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  • I actually found the opposite in a recent study (link below) but maybe I'm not reading this right? Thought I'd pass it along in case it helps :)

    https://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/5/1069.full

     

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  • The pattern changes as well...it's all a reflection of what your hormones are doing at the time of the cycle. So having an inhospitable lining right after AF is actually spot on. If the pattern remains that way throughout the cycle, that's a whole other story! Good luck!
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  • Thanks all!!!! Appreciate the knowledge!
    Me (37) DH (39); PCOS changed to Unexplained, changed to DOR in 2012 (finally a correct diagnosis!); 
    Started TTC 2009 with RE after 6 months.  
    Clomid + Trigger x2; 
    IUI + Femara x1,
    IUI + Follistim x2;
    IVF #1 (MDL) February 2013- BFN.
    IVF #2 (antagonist) May 2013, First BFP of my life. 
    Identical twin miracle BOYS (!!) headed our way- due date is technically 2/4/14 but c section is scheduled for 1/7! 


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  • Even if there is an issue with your lining, there are supplements they can give you during your TWW to help increase your lining.  

    Also, my 2 cents - ask questions!  I go into my doctor with printed studies and say "either agree with this or give me contrary evidence."  Be aggressive! :-) 

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