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Irrational Fear? Embryos dying during thaw

I'm REALLY trying not to worry about our upcoming FET. But my biggest most terrible fear is that all five of our donated embryos don't survive the thaw. Thinking about that literally takes my breath away.

They were frozen in 2003 and I know freezing techniques have changed since then. They have also been shipped from Virginia to Texas.  I seriously keep picturing us driving up to the clinic on Feb 11th and getting "that call" where the RE tells me they all didn't make it. My RE says not to worry. He says it's possible, but unlikely. Still, I can't shake it!

Can someone talk some sense into me? Does anyone else have this fear? Anything that makes you feel better about it?

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Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
DH: Severe MFI

12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

My ovaries are just for decoration

12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
 
9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

Snowflake baby is a girl! 
Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!   
My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
 
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Re: Irrational Fear? Embryos dying during thaw

  • I'm sure most of them will make it.

    Deep breaths! You have no control over it so try not to worry.

    *hugs*

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  • I know nothing we say can shake away your fears because they're very natural and understandable. But your embies did make it to freeze back then, that means those embies must be tough and they definitely have good chances of surviving the thaw. We're all here rooting for them!
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  • No advice, but ((hugs)) and I'm praying for peace for you!

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    AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?!

    Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers

    Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo.
    Stopped BCP 4/2010.
    Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
    IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN

    IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN
    BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012.
    FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled
    FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013
    ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27.
    Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt)
    Beta 4: 8503(19dpt)
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  • Just trying to send the positive vibes your way girlie! I hope this is the one for you! Try some projects until then! I know I would be nervous to that is so understandable. This is so out of your control it just is gonna be what it's gonna be!! Good luck and I hope with all my heart that this is your time!!!! GL
    Me 34 and DH 39 married in aug. 2002
    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
    BFN on fet #3
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  • Liz, I know you are going to worry anyways but you cannot change whatever is going to happen.  I hope your snowflakes thaw perfectly.  Prayers for you and sending tons of ((HUGS))!

    You are not alone in this fear.  My next cycle is my last and I'm so scared.  Remember this infertility stuff isn't for the weak. 

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    First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN
    Switching RE
    IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH!
    BFN
    IVF #3 March 2013~Tesa with back-up Donor Sperm,Tesa, unsuccessful used DS~ Chemical :(   

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    2 frosties waiting for us, November 2013!!!!!   Transferred 2 "average" blasts 11/20/2013
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  • I get it. ::hugs::

    Me- 32, DH- 32- TTC for 4 Years
    IUIs 1-6 BFN
    IVF #1= BFP- M/C
    FET- Beta#1: 69, #2: 482, #3: 1088, #4: 28,318, Ultrasound- 1 beautiful heartbeat
    It's a boy!

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  • I don't think it is irrational at all. It does happen unfortunately. Also, there is no way to not worry. Until you get to ET and see what you have, you will worry. Then you will worry about the quality and whether they will implant. There is no escape from worry. Buckle up as it is a bumpy ride!!! Hugs. 

    TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
    DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
    5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
    OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
    DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
    DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
    CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
    DE IVF #3 1/14  ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d

    DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
    First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!

    K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days

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  • Oh Liz, I wish I could take all of this worry away! No, it's not irrational, but fortunately, it's highly unlikely! After all you have been through, it's hard to not constantly worry about the worst case scenario, I know I constantly do. Fingers crossed you are pleasantly surprised at ET and even more so thereafter!

    Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

    IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

    Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

    DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

    DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

    DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

    FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

    DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

    FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

    Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

    New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

    FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

     

     

     

  • The freezing process has come such a long way. Do you know the success rates for the labs that did the freezing and thawing? Maybe that will make you feel better. I'm having a good day, so I'm sending some of my good luck vibes your way. =) FX
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    TTC: 05/2011 Me: 32, All Clear DH: 38 Dx: MFI Low Testosterone & 1% Morphology
    IVF #1 w/ICSI & IMSI, 12/03/12: ER: 27R, 20M, 15F
    4 blasts frozen (3BA 4BA 4BB 5BB) b/c of moderate OHSS
    FET #1: 02/08/13 Transferred 3BA & 4BA | HPT 5dp5dt BFP!

    10dp5dt Beta #1 - 810 | 12dp5dt Beta #2 - 1843 BabyFetus Ticker
  • Thank you all so much for your support! I don't know much about the original clinic's freezing rates but the lab directors of both clinics have been in contact so I'm hoping that my clinic will know exactly what to do when the time comes.

    And you're all right - I have no control. It stinks!

    Here's what I *think* I know about the batch:

    2003 - Using an egg donor, original recipient transferred two fresh, ended up with take-home baby twins. Nine were frozen and donated to donor recipient.

    2006 - Donor recipient thawed four of the nine, two made it, one implanted resulting in a live birth of a singleton.

    Five donated to me and here we are.

    I'm hoping the history means good things. I'm trying to tell myself that the ones that made it to transfer had a 75% live birth rate. I wish I could turn my worry off like a faucet, but it's getting harder and harder each day that gets closer to transfer which I realized is in exactly two weeks. Holy cow. Cue panic.

    I don't know what I'd do without you ladies talking me off my ledge sometimes! 

    ************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************
    Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
    Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
    DH: Severe MFI

    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
    8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

    My ovaries are just for decoration

    12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
    2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
    2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
    3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

    6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
     
    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
    9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
    9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

    11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
    11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
    Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
    6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

    Snowflake baby is a girl! 
    Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!   
    My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
     
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  • Wow...I would find comfort with that history. =) PP is right. It's out of your hands, so you just got to have faith that it will all work out. I remember your post when the embies arrived. I have good feelings about your upcoming transfer.

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    TTC: 05/2011 Me: 32, All Clear DH: 38 Dx: MFI Low Testosterone & 1% Morphology
    IVF #1 w/ICSI & IMSI, 12/03/12: ER: 27R, 20M, 15F
    4 blasts frozen (3BA 4BA 4BB 5BB) b/c of moderate OHSS
    FET #1: 02/08/13 Transferred 3BA & 4BA | HPT 5dp5dt BFP!

    10dp5dt Beta #1 - 810 | 12dp5dt Beta #2 - 1843 BabyFetus Ticker
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    Liz, remember that where you are getting your FET done is one of the best places around!  They will do their absolute best for your embies, I'm sure of it.  It's easier said than done, but try not to worry too much.  You want your embies to encounter a nice cozy, calm home inside you.   Wink

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  • Oh Hunny, I'm sure most of them will make. I know it's hard to shake that fear, but the likely hood of none of them surviving seems like such a long shot. I think you'll be ok. Hang in there liz!
  • Im always nervous about this also but it sounds like you have some troupers there that are going to do just fine. Best wishes!
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