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And we are done, for now.

DH threw a hissy fit today over having to do a counseling session because of DS.  He said we weren't prepared and nothing was going right, which it isn't.  So I called and canceled our cycle.  I'm a sobbing mess.  I've been in bed all day.  I'm so pi**ed at DH, but arguing with him won't do any good.  If we cycle now and it's a BFN it will be all my fault.  So I'm washing my hands of it.  I'm not making any appointments.  He can do it. So I'm thinking we won't be cycling for a long time.  

On the plus side, we did do our session.  Only cause they wouldn't let us cancel cause it was less than 24 hours.  The counselor brought up some good things.  And even DH later said he was glad we did it.

He told me to call a start our cycle again....  He can pack sand.  If he wants it he can call.

 I'll be here cheering everyone on.  I so want this to work for all of you!

((HUGS)) 

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  • oh wow, i'm so sorry you've been going through this!  you sound like myself and my husband to me- but i always cave and would end up calling because he's too proud to do something he said he wouldn't.  

    hope you get it figured out soon and do something you are both happy with.  thanks for staying to cheer everyone on... sending you positive thoughts as well...  

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    Started TTC 2009 with RE after 6 months.  
    Clomid + Trigger x2; 
    IUI + Femara x1,
    IUI + Follistim x2;
    IVF #1 (MDL) February 2013- BFN.
    IVF #2 (antagonist) May 2013, First BFP of my life. 
    Identical twin miracle BOYS (!!) headed our way- due date is technically 2/4/14 but c section is scheduled for 1/7! 


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  • I am sorry for you that there were all these things that go wrong even in IF.  I have been in similar situations.  I also feel like as women we are the ones doing a lot of the work in this!  I know how you feel with saying he can call.  We are using DS also.  Our first RE didn't make us go to a counseling session.  We switched to a new RE for cost and they did.  I also feel like I am doing all the work.  I've been up since 4 am this morning, drove 1hr 10 min to the dr for a monitoring session, drove 1.5 hours to work, and then worked a 10 hour day and commuted home.  It's such a frustrating time and so busy.  BTW, this will be my DH and I's last cycle too. 

    I hope you and your DH get a cycle up and running soon if you decide to continue. Good luck with everything!  

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  • My thing is, he gets annoyed by everything.  If you don't like when I schedule things do it yourself.  Nobody said it was going to be easy.  This is our last cycle also.  If it doesn't work , we are buying a Harley...
     36 DH 33 TTC for over 3 years
    First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN
    Switching RE
    IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH!
    BFN
    IVF #3 March 2013~Tesa with back-up Donor Sperm,Tesa, unsuccessful used DS~ Chemical :(   

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  • Oh honey! I'm so sorry you are going through this. I hope you and your husband find a way to help each other through this. Sending hugs!
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  • Maybe you'll change your mind tomorrow. I know you're upset and tired, but a new day might bring a new perspective. If you think you might regret canceling the cycle...I wouldn't let a phone call stand in my way. Follow your heart. Lots of ((HUGS))
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  • Ugh I'm sorry you're going through this with DH. Some days with IF are hard and some straight up suck. I'd be frustrated too if I was in your position. I hope taking a little time helps. I'm sorry you've had such a hard day. Huge hugs to you!! Unfortunately IF can put a strain on your relationship. Sometimes when I am having a hard day or not seeing eye to eye with DH I think of the quote "Even when you disagree, remember you're on the same team".

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  • I'm sorry, IF is one bumpy road with tons of potholes!

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  • I'm so sorry you're going through this. Hugs
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  • I'm sorry things are so stressful right now.
    I don't know if its the case here, but someone had told me that when you're ttc for years on end and it starts to feel like too much, sometimes a partner will pick a fight to sabotage the cycle. Not on purpose. Not to be a jerk. But to avoid the hurt/disappoint/grief you expect is coming. If you don't try then you can't "fail". It's stuck with me because, in retrospect, I know there were a few cycles where I was the one hurt and sabotaging.
    If this is a usual sort of fight with DH, disregard everything I just said. But if its out of character for you guys try to step back and think about whether it could just be a bad way of responding to stress.
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  • Oh man, you've really been put through the ringer! I am so sorry for all you have been going through! Hope everything works out for you guys. Hang in there! 
             

            

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    I'm sorry things are so stressful right now. I don't know if its the case here, but someone had told me that when you're ttc for years on end and it starts to feel like too much, sometimes a partner will pick a fight to sabotage the cycle. Not on purpose. Not to be a jerk. But to avoid the hurt/disappoint/grief you expect is coming. If you don't try then you can't "fail". It's stuck with me because, in retrospect, I know there were a few cycles where I was the one hurt and sabotaging. If this is a usual sort of fight with DH, disregard everything I just said. But if its out of character for you guys try to step back and think about whether it could just be a bad way of responding to stress.

    This is great advice.  We never fight or argue, ever.  I can tell he feels horrible.  He's been clingy and trying to make conversation and I'm stand-off-ish.   I didn't even think about the failure aspect...  Thanks.

     36 DH 33 TTC for over 3 years
    First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN
    Switching RE
    IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH!
    BFN
    IVF #3 March 2013~Tesa with back-up Donor Sperm,Tesa, unsuccessful used DS~ Chemical :(   

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  • imageLuClo:
    I'm sorry things are so stressful right now. I don't know if its the case here, but someone had told me that when you're ttc for years on end and it starts to feel like too much, sometimes a partner will pick a fight to sabotage the cycle. Not on purpose. Not to be a jerk. But to avoid the hurt/disappoint/grief you expect is coming. If you don't try then you can't "fail". It's stuck with me because, in retrospect, I know there were a few cycles where I was the one hurt and sabotaging. If this is a usual sort of fight with DH, disregard everything I just said. But if its out of character for you guys try to step back and think about whether it could just be a bad way of responding to stress.

    This is great advice.  We never fight or argue, ever.  I can tell he feels horrible.  He's been clingy and trying to make conversation and I'm stand-off-ish.   I didn't even think about the failure aspect...  Thanks.

     36 DH 33 TTC for over 3 years
    First mini-IVF Sept 2011... Only 1 egg! ... BFN
    Switching RE
    IVF#2 May 2012 9 eggs and only 2 sperm, WTH!
    BFN
    IVF #3 March 2013~Tesa with back-up Donor Sperm,Tesa, unsuccessful used DS~ Chemical :(   

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    2 frosties waiting for us, November 2013!!!!!   Transferred 2 "average" blasts 11/20/2013
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  • So sorry you're going through this! DH and I have had some doozies during all of this, and I think the PP is right...sleep on it. Things will look different in the morning. And don't cut off your nose to spite your face.  If you cycle and get a BFN it might be your fault, but if you don't cycle and regret it, it will forever be his fault in your heart. That's a set up for resentment and more fights later. Sadly, the brunt of IF falls on our laps and not theirs....

    Best of luck to you both! Hope you come to an agreement soon!

    Married 2007
    3 Clomid IUIs -- BFNs
    IVF #1 never made it to transfer
    On "egg health" cocktail DHEA/CoQ10/FRC/Pregnitude/Melatonin
    Starting IVF #2 for Feb 2013
    Follistim/Menopur/Ganirelix
    Cancelled mid-cycle due to high P4 levels early on.
    OCPs again for IVF 2.5 mid-March. IVF 2.5 transferred two "gorgeous" 5-day blasts and BFFN. Even REI is baffled
    On indefinite hold until a huge stroke of serendipity led me to IVF 3 May 2014
    Testing found positive cardiolipins/APS, now on lovenox and intralipid infusions
    Transfer of 2 5-day blasts and (FINALLY) BFFP!! 1st ultrasound shows two sacs and two HB, but one is sluggish, almost expecting vanishing twin Subsequent ultrasound confirmed vanishing twin, but my other Little critter looks fantastic!
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  • So sorry I know a different aspect due to my DOR and I can say that a lot if guilt accompanies the feeling toward DH that I have on a daily basis. Some days I'm gung go and other days I want to spend all our hard earned money we put into IF on a dream vacation or a new Mac book lol! I think during all this is a lot if communication between this and not holding back on how we feel even though its so hard most if the time. Take it one day at a time and hopefully after a few days of not thinking about what's next a answer will come to you guys!!!! Good luck and I'm always in your corner girl!!!
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    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
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  • Ugh I am so sorry you had a rough night but I agree with what all of the ladies have said..it is so hard to see clearly through IF because emotions are running rampant. DH and I have had our fair share of arguments lately...I am doing all the work, do you care or you would be helping, etc..but I have to remind myself that it probably is so hurtful for him to be more involved since he has to come to terms with that fact that his DNA is no longer part of the equation. The whole thing just sucks! I hope you guys can work through it and find common ground and a plan you are both comfortable with. Hugs!!!
    TTC since June 2011
    DX: DH (30) severe MFI, severely low count & low motility
    Me (32): all clear
    Appt with Urologist 5/21/12: exam, ultrasound, bloodwork all normal.
    Testicular Biopsy with TESE on 6/8/12. good sperm found! (left side only) froze sperm, failed thaw test :(
    Orientation for IVF/ICSI on 6/13/12. Waiting for the green light following biopsy results...results show adequate sperm production both sides.
    2nd SA 6/18/12: sample is "adequate for ICSI"
    Plan: IVF/ICSI July 2012!
    ER: 7/26/12. 15 eggs retrieved, all mature.
    TESE/TESA/aspiration from epididymis, no motile sperm found :(
    froze all eggs, the saga of praying for good sperm continues.
    8/3/12: 2nd opinion from MFI uro on biopsy slides. Suspects "partial late maturation arrest."
    Plan: more SAs, third biopsy/TESE with frozen back-up either from DH or DS.
    SA 8/17/12: Zero sperm
    SA 8/23/12: Zero sperm
    9/26/12: SPERM FOUND! 15 eggs thawed, 12 survived and were ICSI'd, only 3 fertilized normally. Refrozen as embies and will thaw in Nov. Please survive and grow!
    All 3 survived the thaw on 11/15/12!
    FET 11/17/12: transferred 2, one 4B, one 4C. Beta 11/30:BFFN
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    DIUI#1 2/18/13,50mg Clomid cd 3-7, Ovidrel trigger, Beta 3/4/13: BFN.
    DIUI#2 3/19/13, 50 mg Clomid cd 3-7, Ovidrel trigger, Beta #1 (14dpiui) 4/2/13: BFP!!!! 150. Beta #2 4/4/13: 420 Beta #3 4/8/13: 2691. Beta #4 4/15/13: 15,086
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    2nd u/s 4/15/13 shows yolk sac, fetal pole and early heartbeat
    3rd u/s 4/25/13: measuring right on track. Heart rate 148 bpm
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  • I'm so sorry you are going through this.  Best of luck to you with everything.
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  • Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry hun. (((hugs))) I hope that you guys continue to go to counseling since it seemed to help, despite the fact that YH had an issue with it in the beginning. I hope everything works out for you. And I'll be thinking of you!
  • I'm so sorry you're dealing with this ((((hugs))))
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    2/21/13 - Went to RE expecting the worse and saw the flutter of the heart.To God be the Glory!!
     
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  • I'm so sorry you ended up cancelling! Hopefully he gets himself together and you guys are able to work through this soon. ((hugs))

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    AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?!

    Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers

    Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo.
    Stopped BCP 4/2010.
    Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
    IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN

    IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN
    BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012.
    FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled
    FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013
    ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27.
    Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt)
    Beta 4: 8503(19dpt)
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  • Oh no, I'm so sorry. :( IF is so awful and unfair. We've had so many fights over it ourselves and it's the worst feeling in the world. *hug*

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    Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
    DH: Severe MFI

    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
    8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

    My ovaries are just for decoration

    12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
    2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
    2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
    3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

    6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
     
    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
    9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
    9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

    11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
    11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
    Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
    6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

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  • You are cutting your nose to spite your face!!!  You want this baby and are going to cancel a potential cycle because of a spat.  I know the feeling - I fought with my husband last night and said "That's it!  I'm canceling the IUI!  I'm refusing the HCG shot when it arrives!"  I cried, I screamed, he can make his own dinner tonight, and that's it.  At the end of the day our marriage isn't going away - we love each other but we're on a frustrating, disappointing, emotional roller coaster AND SO ARE YOU!  Suck it up - make the call.
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    9/2011: unplanned natural conception and MC @ 6weeks Cycle 1: 12/2012: TI & 2000MG Metformin & 100MG Clomid = CP
    Functional Cyst - fixed with 2wks BCP
    Cycle 2: 1/31/13: IUI #1
    Meds:2000MG Metformin, 100MG Clomid, HSG/Trigger, Provera 400mg 2DPIUI
    Stats: SA 20mil & 63% mot/follicles (as per 1/30 u/s): 22, 13, 14
    BFP! Beta #1 13DPiui: 79! Beta #2 15DPiui: 164! Beta#3 19DPIUI: 773! First US scheduled 3/5! EDD Oct 23!
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  • It is such a hard experience to share with our partners, especially when we are the ones having to put in the majority of the effort so it's easy to become resentful.  There have been plenty of times when I have wanted to throw in the towel just because of his attitude.  But I know he probably wouldn't step up and call the office himself to restart a cycle if I had cancelled.  It sounds like the counseling helped though and maybe if you guys continue to go, he will come around.  I hope you are able to work it out. 

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  • my hubby used to get annoyed/pissy w everything for a LONG time actually......he was very passive and non involved just let me do all the work. i used to get mad but then i realized that it was bc he felt guilty bc we have MF, he had 20% motility and 2% morphology. bad. the irony was he has TRIPLE the normal sperm count but they didnt move!  we talked about it and he felt better once he realized we were in it together-no ones fault-now hes in charge of all the shots and comes to the appts. he even goes to acupuncture now and takes supplements, he HATED doing that before. give him time... he'll come around. men deal with emotional things differently. 
    me 40, DH 39... FSH:8.6 AMH 2.3 AFC:15... DH: MF: sx for Double Varicocele, SA 45 mil, motil: 50%, morph 3%- "lazy swimmers!"... Me: All "normal" but aging eggs most likely... ;-/ DS: 4/29/05-7 yrs old MC 9 weeks: 9/21/11 TTC for 3 yrs...7/2012: 1st IUI: BFN 8/2012: 2nd IUI: BFN... Need a break already! IVF #1 in progress Jan 2013: Antagonist Prot.: Gonal F 300/Menopur 150 ER: 15 follies, 12 retrieved, 10 mature, 10 fertilized...grow embies grow! 1/8/13: BFN.
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