Girl/boy head count

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

Lets keep this oh so scientific study just on this, and the other, LGBT board. Only couting babies already born to lesbian moms via ICI, IUI, IVF. No one in our personal lives. there are people in the FB group who don't have their name listed in the doc and I don't know who they are. Who am missing?

Boys

Jeannkerri (frozen, donor, back-to-back IUI 12&24 hrs after LH surge, clomid)

Hens mom (non-medicated IUI)

2 brides (twin boys, IUI with Clomid, follistim, and trigger, timing unknown)

Blue daisy

Tdmkl

Mommymonster

Mrlo2

Norika (b/g twins)

L_nelson

Madisononpeas

Leapgirl (b/gtwins)

Taylorandmel (b/g twins, IVF)

LolaBell - (fresh, at-home ICI, 1 day before, day of, and 1 day after ovulation)

2moms2b (twin boys)

CageyMack (due March)

JGY (due March)

Twinkler2011 (due April)

TWB (b/g twins, IUI, frozen?, Clomid/Met/trigger)

jenandmel (At home IUI 18 hrs after OPK.)

Girls

TT(clomid/trigger/IUI - IUI was about 24 hours post trigger)

2moms2twins (twin girls, IVF)

SSG

Bostongaygirl (single girl, IVF)

Taylorandmel (b/g twins, IVF)

Ashes101 (twin girls)

2momiesinoh

Cookiemonster (twin girls)

Babyhyem (twin girls)

Norika (b/g twins)

L_nelson

Leapgirl (b/g twins)

newmompeanut (due feb)

Shamrock (due feb)

karah0011 (due March)

stringy813 (IUI with frozen sperm, no meds, 12 hours after positive OPK (likely 24 hours after height of surge)

TWB (b/g twins, IUI, frozen?, Clomid/Met/trigger)

Fabi

Nita

Gender TBD

Jeannkerri (non-medicated single IUI, 12 hours after pos OPK)

TT (twins - clomid/trigger/IUI - IUI was about 16 hours post trigger)

leapgirl8 · January 2013

I have one of each.

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

What? How did miss you?! I swear you were in my original count on my phone. Cause I have nothing else to do but count kids..

2brides · January 2013

2moms2b is having 2 boys (I knew I couldn't be the only one with twin boys!)

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

I was shocke you were the only one too! I was only counting babies already born since there are so many pregnant, it didn't seem fair to the results. I'm still surprised there are so many girls!

ball.and.chain · January 2013

jeannkerricotober09:
I was shocke you were the only one too! I was only counting babies already born since there are so many pregnant, it didn't seem fair to the results. I'm still surprised there are so many girls!

Are you trying to "prove" (I know not scientifically) the whole AI favors boys thing? If so, you shouldn't count IVF babies cause that theory doesn't apply to IVF. If anything, I believe IVF is supposed to favor girls bc the embryos are supposedly tougher.

TaylorandMel have 1 girl, 1 boy (albeit through IVF).

2moms2b · January 2013

Yup having two boys! This will most likely be our last weekend child free so fingers crossed we can hold out until the 26th!

ball.and.chain · January 2013

Bump burp.

2moms2b · January 2013

ball.and.chain:
jeannkerricotober09:
I was shocke you were the only one too! I was only counting babies already born since there are so many pregnant, it didn't seem fair to the results. I'm still surprised there are so many girls!
Are you trying to "prove" (I know not scientifically) the whole AI favors boys thing? If so, you shouldn't count IVF babies cause that theory doesn't apply to IVF. If anything, I believe IVF is supposed to favor girls bc the embryos are supposedly tougher. TaylorandMel have 1 girl, 1 boy (albeit through IVF).

B.C. is correct. IVF is not quite applicable.

If we factor in the information of method, timing, sample type we can actually (not scientifically) prove in our group of families what the statistical rate of boy vs girl for sample types and methods. We can also determine just in general our boy vs girl ratio. We can also determine if in our group the frozen samples favor boys. Also (I don't think we have any) identical twins should only be counted once as it was an egg split not two separate fertilization.

Statistically speaking we can also count the babies in womb (sex determined) as it shouldn't throw anything off and only give us more data to work with.

Maybe I am over thinking this but if people would provide sex, sample type, method and timing for things like IUI (like 36 hours past trigger/O) we could run some pretty cool numbers.

As you can tell I am bored on bed rest so I would love to see the data as this is something very interesting to me. Stick out tongue

only1leia · January 2013

There's a Facebook group?

LolaBelle515 · January 2013

We used a known donor with fresh sperm (no doctor), so I don't think I can be counted in the original poll.

But, answering 2moms2b's questions:

boy, fresh, at-home (with a syringe, nothing special), 1 day before, day of, and 1 day after ovulation.

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

I think I was trying to disprove it There is a lot if info on the pregnancy check in. I was just pulling together the births from this board to see what it looks like.

Taylor and mel had twins, right? That's not who I was thinking when I wrote that. I was thinking about the couple who both carried, months from one another. Each had a little girl, about 9 months apart. Anyone?

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

Take it and run, 2moms I'm not sure how many people will respond, since quite a few of them aren't on here any longer but I'll post around and see who will come back and give their info.

Boston Gay Girl hasn't been here in a year or so, but I know she was IVF, I recommended my RE to her back in the day.

I conceived N with frozen donor sperm, back-to-back IUI's (so who knows which took) 12 and 24 hours after LH surge.

This pregnancy I conceived with the same donor, single IUI, about 12 hours after LH surge

thiswillbe · January 2013

We have one of each. Clomid/Met/trigger IUI. I changed up the trigger/IUI timing on our last cycle, but can't remember which way (more or fewer hours than the RE said).

hlke · January 2013

We can also use this "data" to see if my theory that same-sex couples have a crapton of twins because of Clomid/Femara is true. I've been trying to count in my head IVF twins vs. oral fertility med twins vs. inject twins.

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

2moms2b - If you want me to group everyone differently, let me know.

2moms2twins · January 2013

jeannkerricotober09:
I think I was trying to disprove it There is a lot if info on the pregnancy check in. I was just pulling together the births from this board to see what it looks like.
Taylor and mel had twins, right? That's not who I was thinking when I wrote that. I was thinking about the couple who both carried, months from one another. Each had a little girl, about 9 months apart. Anyone?

Oh yeah ... Fabi and something i think was their name ( could be wrong)

2moms2b · January 2013

I think this is perfect!

My vote is to leave this thread running through the week to let those that wish to participate a chance to update with their information.

Once we have everyone's data (that wishes to be included so completely optional) we can use it to humor our minds with the calculations to get our groups statistics. (I love math and statistics so this makes me giddy... I know I am a dork)

HIke: I too am curious on the twin thing.

My data: IUI with frozen sperm post trigger (36 hours) resulting in twin boys. We used clomid and ovidrel trigger.

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

Yes! Fabi and Nita. It something like that.

2moms2twins · January 2013

2moms2b:
ball.and.chain:
jeannkerricotober09:
I was shocke you were the only one too! I was only counting babies already born since there are so many pregnant, it didn't seem fair to the results. I'm still surprised there are so many girls!
Are you trying to "prove" (I know not scientifically) the whole AI favors boys thing? If so, you shouldn't count IVF babies cause that theory doesn't apply to IVF. If anything, I believe IVF is supposed to favor girls bc the embryos are supposedly tougher. TaylorandMel have 1 girl, 1 boy (albeit through IVF).
B.C. is correct. IVF is not quite applicable.
If we factor in the information of method, timing, sample type we can actually (not scientifically) prove in our group of families what the statistical rate of boy vs girl for sample types and methods. We can also determine just in general our boy vs girl ratio. We can also determine if in our group the frozen samples favor boys. Also (I don't think we have any) identical twins should only be counted once as it was an egg split not two separate fertilization.
Statistically speaking we can also count the babies in womb (sex determined) as it shouldn't throw anything off and only give us more data to work with.
Maybe I am over thinking this but if people would provide sex, sample type, method and timing for things like IUI (like 36 hours past trigger/O) we could run some pretty cool numbers.
As you can tell I am bored on bed rest so I would love to see the data as this is something very interesting to me.

TWIN GIRLS ( 5% change they are ID but we are not testing any time you have twins w/ same blood type and same sex you have 5% chance of them being ID and they look nothing alike no i think its not possible)

IVF- ICSI to be exact grew for 2 days then frozen for a month

then grew for another 5 days ( we were part of a study to show that Frozen vs Fresh embryo transfer is better) https://www.fertilitycenterlv.com/high-responder-study-results.html

Frozen Sperm

Two*True · January 2013

DD - clomid/trigger/IUI - IUI was about 24 hours post trigger

Twins - clomid/trigger/IUI - IUI was about 16 hours post trigger. Do not know their sexes yet.

jennandmel1024 · January 2013

Boy for us. At home IUI 18 hrs after OPK.

2brides · January 2013

#9 IUI with Clomid, follistim, and trigger. No idea about dosing or timing given that it seems like half a life ago.

ball.and.chain · January 2013

jeannkerricotober09:
I think I was trying to disprove it There is a lot if info on the pregnancy check in. I was just pulling together the births from this board to see what it looks like.

Yeah, IVF would definitely have skewed your results, since the boy theory is based on timing of insem in relation to ovulation and none of that applies to IVF. Especially since so far it doesn't look like any of the boys, except for T&M's son, were conceived via IVF.

But I'm glad you posted this because I've been wondering about this since I joined the board. And also agree with hlke that I wonder about the multiples rates, etc.

jeannkerricotober09 · January 2013

ball.and.chain:
jeannkerricotober09:
I think I was trying to disprove it   There is a lot if info on the pregnancy check in.  I was just pulling together the births from this board to see what it looks like.
Yeah, IVF would definitely have skewed your results, since the boy theory is based on timing of insem in relation to ovulation and none of that applies to IVF.  Especially since so far it doesn't look like any of the boys, except for T&M's son, were conceived via IVF.
But I'm glad you posted this because I've been wondering about this since I joined the board.  And also agree with hlke that I wonder about the multiples rates, etc.

It is really interesting. Was Leapgirl an IUI and do you know about Norika? She didn't come on here but I could FB message her and ask.

ball.and.chain · January 2013

jeannkerricotober09:
ball.and.chain:
jeannkerricotober09:
I think I was trying to disprove it There is a lot if info on the pregnancy check in. I was just pulling together the births from this board to see what it looks like.
Yeah, IVF would definitely have skewed your results, since the boy theory is based on timing of insem in relation to ovulation and none of that applies to IVF. Especially since so far it doesn't look like any of the boys, except for T&M's son, were conceived via IVF.
But I'm glad you posted this because I've been wondering about this since I joined the board. And also agree with hlke that I wonder about the multiples rates, etc.
It is really interesting. Was Leapgirl an IUI and do you know about Norika? She didn't come on here but I could FB message her and ask.

I think Leap was medicated IUI...Clomid? Not sure about Norika.

JoySeattle · January 2013

Sex TBD (in August), unmedicated, frozen, at home IUI, 17 hours after first positive opk

karah0011 · January 2013

Data: Frozen, IUI, unmedicated, 13 hours after first positive OPK, 1st try, GIRL, Due March

leapgirl8 · January 2013

Clomid + trigger, frozen, IUI. Can't remember timing - whatever they told us to do w/ the trigger.

It was our third IUI, first two were unmedicated.

2moms2twins · January 2013

lucubratrix:
sex, sample type, method and timing for things like IUI (like 36 hours past trigger/O) we could run some pretty cool numbers.
Kid #1: boy, KD fresh sample but cooled with storage buffer and shipped with coldpacks via UPS (a DIY biotranz), insemination at home with a syringe (what people like to call an ICI, but it's really not intra-cervical at all, just intra-vaginal), timed the day before presumed ovulation (i.e. insemination on the day of LH surge). (We had also done an insemination 3 days before that, but it's highly doubtful that the sperm from that were still alive given they'd already been through shipping cross country.) No fertility meds.
Kid #2: boy, same KD's frozen sample, frozen embryo transfer of a single blastocyst (from IVF, obviously) .
Blastocysts in the freezer: 1 boy, 4 girl - we did CGH testing, and finding out the sexes was a byproduct. We're hoping to get two more take-home babies out of those, but doing single embryo transfers to avoid multiples.
Male embryos make it to blastocyst faster than female embryos, interestingly enough... that was true for us, too. https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00600-X/abstract

any particular reason you did CGH testing and care to share in a PM what it ran you ?

mhkd042206 · January 2013

IUI 5 clomid trigger 24 hours prior to IUI and I had 2 mature follicles. We used frozen sample with unknown donor and this resulted in twin boys.

CageyMack · January 2013

Data: Follistim, trigger shot (18 hours prior, I think), IUI, frozen. Boy.

JGY · January 2013

How on earth did I miss this??

You already know I have a boy due in March, here are the other details:
Frozen donor sperm, unmedicated single IUI done in RE office, timing somewhat unknown since no trigger, but done less than 24 hours after positive OPK.

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