February 2013 Moms

breech baby vent

So LO is frank breech and has been for months. I'm trying everything I can to help her flip. Inversions, pelvic rocks/tilts, frozen fruit on the head, flashlights, i go to the chiropractor 2x a week for webster technique,  we started hypnobirthing classes yesterday, and my husband downloaded a hypnobabies track called "turn, baby, turn". She wiggles around a LOT, but always goes back to the same spot.

I'm 2cm dilated, and my dr. (on friday) said he could feel her butt..which he said felt like a head, but I get weekly u/s's so we know it's not. My c-section will be scheduled either 2/1 or 2/4. Which is really hard for me to deal with...as I was planning on a natural hypnobirth. And I'm conflicted about doing the ECV, which we would have to do in the next week or so if I decide to try. I guess I will have to call tomorrow and ask exactly how deep she is in my pelvis, bc if she has already dropped, I doubt the ECV would work anyway. I've been starting to get pelvic pressure this week when I stand too long and low back pain along with slightly pain BH's. So if I even make it to Feb, idk...I've had all 3 of my previous babies in week 38. I'm trying to stay off my feet as much as I can to give her as much time as I can to flip...but all I think about all day everyday is if she will flip! I so did not think this pregnancy would end like this...it has been a perfect, super easy pregnancy besides her being breech :(

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  • I'm sorry. :-( I've been worried about this a lot, too. I THINK my baby is still head down but I'm really not sure, and I'm confident she is at least sunny side up based on belly mapping from spinningbabies and she never seems to switch sides so I'm worried about how that will play out.

    I'm sure it's super frustrating. You're doing everything you can! Good luck!

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  • I'm so sorry you're going through that! I would definitely try the version personally, although I can understand choosing not to. My feeling is that it might help and if it didn't work I would know I did everything I could to avoid a c.
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  • I am so so sorry. I'm doing hypnobabies and know how disappointing this must be. A labor and delivery nurse I met at a shower a couple months ago was turning her baby by getting on all fours and then putting the frozen pea bag on the top. I'm sure you have tried everything, but thought I'd mention the on all four thing since it wasn't mentioned in your post. Hang in there!
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  • I had the same with DD, nothing worked. I think I was the first person that the chiropractor couldn't help : I ended up with A csection. I was scheduled go 39 w but ended up going into labour at 38w 3. I found that knowing my plan wasn't going to work a week ahead of time when we scheduled the csection helped me deal with it I know it's hard but it's what's safest in the end.
    I tried An EV but that too failed, apparently the success rate is lower than the chiropractor's.
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  • What about a ECV are you conflicted about?  I ask, because my LO has been frank breeched for quite some time, and my OB mentioned that at 36 weeks we could discuss ECV and c-section options if the baby didn't flip.  Everything I've read in my google searches seem to point to it being a fairly non-invasive procedure with a 50%ish success rate (depending on practicioner). 

    I'm wondering if I'm missing something ...

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  • I just wonder about umbilical cord issues and don't want it to get squeezed or pinched during the process. And sometimes I wonder if there is a good reason why she hasn't turned? I would like to try everything possible to turn her to avoid a c-section...but the procedure could also lead to an emergency c-section, and if that happened, then I would probably wonder if I had just let her be, if she would have flipped on her own sometime before or during labor, or before my scheduled c-section in 4 weeks..if I last that long. plus 50/50 chance isn't so encouraging to me. I would have to find out of they could tell me where her cord is and how likely it is that she would turn...being that her butt is so low in my pelvis already.
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    I just wonder about umbilical cord issues and don't want it to get squeezed or pinched during the process. And sometimes I wonder if there is a good reason why she hasn't turned? I would like to try everything possible to turn her to avoid a csection...but the procedure could also lead to an emergency csection, and if that happened, then I would probably wonder if I had just let her be, if she would have flipped on her own sometime before or during labor, or before my scheduled csection in 4 weeks..if I last that long. plus 50/50 chance isn't so encouraging to me. I would have to find out of they could tell me where her cord is and how likely it is that she would turn...being that her butt is so low in my pelvis already.

    I was going to say that there may be a reason she isn't turning, cord issues or something. I know it would be a bummer to not have the birth experience you wanted, but having a happy healthy baby is worth the alternative birth IMHO.

    I was going to say the same thing. I understand it's disappointing not to have the kind of birth you want, but if a C section is necessary for a safe delivery, then I'd much rather have that.
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  • I understand. Csection isn't what I wanted, but I've come to terms with it being the safest option for myself baby since she hasn't seemed to turn.

    I refused an external version because my anterior placenta brings the percentages of success down even lower and could result in an emergency csection. I'd rather have a scheduled one compared to an emergency. Plus, sometimes babies don't turn for a good reason so if all my natural attempts have failed, I'm not willing to force it.
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  • I agree that a c-section is best if it's the safest option for the baby, I'll be bummed about it no matter what. And if I do end up with one and there was a cord issue, I'll probably feel a lot better about having had one. I also would rather have a planned c-section than an emergency one.

    My OB doesn't do vaginal breech's and said he didn't know anyone who did. I may be able to find a couple in town that might...but again, even though I would prefer a vaginal delivery, I'd be scared of there being unforeseen cord issues or her head getting stuck...even though I have had small headed babies so far. I don't know if I want to risk that. I'd rather have a healthy baby by c-sec than a dead or brain damaged baby by vaginal breech.

    It's really frustrating and I worry about it all the time, but I'm doing everything I can, so it's up to her i guess!

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  • My baby was breech got version done i think 3738 weeks and it worked had successful vag delivery! Good luck!
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  • Are both you and your doctor completely opposed to a vaginal delivery?  You're such a good breech candidate, being a fourth time mom and the fact that it's a frank breech. 

    Maybe you could see how labor goes because sometime babies flip at the last minute.  That happened with my mom and my oldest sister.  They were preparing to take her for the c/s and my sister flipped.

    I just think you have more options than what you are being given.

        
  • Nevermind, just saw that you don't want to do the vaginal delivery.  Ignore my comment :)
        
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    . Plus, sometimes babies don't turn for a good reason so if all my natural attempts have failed, I'm not willing to force it.

    This is me too. For my DH and myself the risks of the ECV outweight the benefits. Of course I don't want a C section but I can handle recovery if it means I have a healthy baby.

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  • I would love to have a vaginal delivery...I'm just so scared of the cord being around the neck or something like that. If they could for sure tell me it isn't, then I would be more comfortable with it. Although my DH doesn't think it's safe for the baby. Even though the c-section isn't exactly safe for me...my chiro just bumped me up to 3x a week on the webster method and i'm keeping on my exercises, and will be doing visualizations with my hypnobirthing CD's..so hopefully SOMETHING works! I'll see what happens this week :) Trying to stay positive since I still have some time
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