January 2013 Moms

A couple BFing ?s.

Been reading LOTS of material about BFing, since I missed my oppertunity to meet to a LC, I had to turn to the internet. From what I gather, you need to get over a "hump" before BFing become managable (for a lack of a better term). How long did it take you to get over the hump? Also, nipple sheilds...are they a must have, or should I wait until I see how LO does before purchasing them? TIA!

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  • I have no advice because I'm a FTM too. But I have a question, what do you mean you missed your opportunity to meet with a LC? My hospital has someone meet with you after you deliver and there are a lot of breastfeeding support groups after you deliver to help too. Does your hospital offer any of that?
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    I have no advice because I'm a FTM too. But I have a question, what do you mean you missed your opportunity to meet with a LC? My hospital has someone meet with you after you deliver and there are a lot of breastfeeding support groups after you deliver to help too. Does your hospital offer any of that?

    There was a breastfeeding class a week ago with an LC that I coudn't get into, and the next one isnt till after LO is here. And the hospital does have a LC for one on ones, but you can only get in by appointment  after a problem has arised. My hospital is all ass backwards. I hate it, but I'm stuck there thanks for TriCare!

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    I have no advice because I'm a FTM too. But I have a question, what do you mean you missed your opportunity to meet with a LC? My hospital has someone meet with you after you deliver and there are a lot of breastfeeding support groups after you deliver to help too. Does your hospital offer any of that?

    Ditto to this. You should be able to meet with an LC right after you deliver. 

    I'm a FTM as well, but but both my breastfeeding class and my childbirthing class (not taught by the same people) were very against nipple shields. They both think they are a great thing when necessary and there are problems (not just sore nipples), but they feel that they are way overused and "passed out like candy" with no real instruction on weaning off them. The problem apparently comes when the baby learns to breastfeed using them, and when you try and stop using the shields, the baby has problems latching.

    So according to them, no, don't start using them unless you have true issues with BF. But, like I said, I'm a FTM hearing this in classes, so take that for what it's worth.

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    imageamcourt09:
    I have no advice because I'm a FTM too. But I have a question, what do you mean you missed your opportunity to meet with a LC? My hospital has someone meet with you after you deliver and there are a lot of breastfeeding support groups after you deliver to help too. Does your hospital offer any of that?

    There was a breastfeeding class a week ago with an LC that I coudn't get into, and the next one isnt till after LO is here. And the hospital does have a LC for one on ones, but you can only get in by appointment  after a problem has arised. My hospital is all ass backwards. I hate it, but I'm stuck there thanks for TriCare!

    Ugh! That sucks! I'm sorry. Hopefully you can get some good answers here :)

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  • My BFF was given a nipple shield in the hospital by the LC when her LO had trouble latching, so I would wait on buying any.  The advice everyone seems to agree on is hoard as much free stuff from the hospital as you can!
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    imageamcourt09:
    I have no advice because I'm a FTM too. But I have a question, what do you mean you missed your opportunity to meet with a LC? My hospital has someone meet with you after you deliver and there are a lot of breastfeeding support groups after you deliver to help too. Does your hospital offer any of that?

    There was a breastfeeding class a week ago with an LC that I coudn't get into, and the next one isnt till after LO is here. And the hospital does have a LC for one on ones, but you can only get in by appointment  after a problem has arised. My hospital is all ass backwards. I hate it, but I'm stuck there thanks for TriCare!

    Are there no other BF classes you can take in the area? Maybe at a different hospital or through an independent person? You may have to pay out of pocket for it, but they usually aren't too horribly expensive. 

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  • I had to supplement with formula from the beginning because DD had issues with weight and jaundice, so that affected BFing.  It took us 3 months to really get it down (just in time for my supply to go down even further).  However, that's with me mostly pumping and bottle-feeding for about a month.  This time, I'm holding off on supplementing if at all possible because the more you BF, the better baby and you get at it.

     Also, most of my friends that used nipple shields only did so because they had sore nipples (not recommended).   If you put lanolin and a little breastmilk on after each feeding, it helps to prevent that soreness from happening.  I did that even after pumping.

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    The first 2 weeks were really hard. It wasn't till 6 weeks where I felt like we had turned a corner. I would wait on the nipple shields

    This!!!! I never used a nipple shield. You are going to feel like giving up. I remember sitting on the couch crying. I was so tired, my nipples hurt, and I was always worried DS wasn't getting enough. My DH turned to me and said "if you still feel like this in a week, we will give him formula. Keep going for now."

    Of course, that's what I told him to say to me bc I knew that was going to happen. :-) I went on to EBF for 14 months.  

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  • For me the hump was probably 3 weeks. It didn't become easy though until about 3 months. As for the nipple shield you can request one from the hospital. But I don't recommend using one unless you need it because it can cause nipple confusion. I had to use one because my nipples blistered at the tips. I had to stop using it when DS would actually suck my nipple through the holes of the shield (OUCH). 
    Also like pp said. Most hospitals have a LC that works for the hospital and I highly recommend seeing them even if you don't have any problems. They will give you lots of advice but mine also gave me to manual breast pumps that I would not have known was covered by my insurance. 
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  • I'd say the hump was somewhere around 3 or 4 weeks.  It became super easy after her 2 month growth spurt though.  It was all cake from that point on.  I did have to use a nipple sheild for the first 2 weeks or so because I have one flat nipple.  The LC gave one to me for free in the hospital so I never bought one.

    You should contact the local LLL for some advice and if you're on a military base you can talk to WIC (even if you aren't on WIC) to get breastfeeding help too.

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  • I used a nipple shield because; it was a lifesaver. It was given to me in the hospital, so I would wait on buying one.
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  • The hump was about 3 months for me, and I had heard 3 months from several of my friends as well.  It can be hard, and if it's something you feel strongly about doing I recommend finding a good support network.  For me it was my mom and a couple of other friends who were also new moms.

    I would wait to purchase the nipple shield.  It makes nursing a lot more frustrating and less convenient if you have to use it so I would try and avoid it if you can!!  I had to use one the whole time I breastfed because of inverted nipples.

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  • With my first, it wasn't until he was 3 weeks that I was able to nurse him some of the time...and not until 5 weeks that he was nursing all of the time.  Until that point, I was pumping around the clock to meet his needs because I couldn't get him to latch.
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  • DD and I never really got over the hump, but she had no interest in nursing. I wouldn't use a nipple shield unless its absolutely necessary. DD would NEVER nurse without one after we started using it.
  • I seem to be a minority, but BFing was pretty easy for me from the very beginning. I never felt a "hump" to get over. DD nursed like a rock star from about 10 minutes old. Wait until you have your LO before borrowing trouble! 
  • It took me about 6 weeks to become totally 100% comfortable breastfeeding, and after that it was totally smooth sailing and effortless. 

    I never used nipple shields.

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  • I never used nipple shields. I wouldn't buy them unless you are told that you need them by a lactation consultant. It took me about a week to get the hang of bfing. I had an awful experience with pp nurses, so that made it take a bit longer for us to find our groove.
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  • My hump was probably at about the 3 week mark.  My nipples hurt and were raw before that, but I never used a nipple shield.  Just have some nipple cream handy.  As for an LC, I second checking out WIC, or a program like New Parent Support.  I know on our base, at least one person is a certified LC at either the clinic or ACS. 
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  • I was really lucky and didn't really have any problems with breastfeeding. I would wait on the nipple shields, I never used them. If you need them, get them at that time.

    Also, your hospital will probably have a LC that will see you while you're there, they are very helpful.

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    There was a breastfeeding class a week ago with an LC that I coudn't get into, and the next one isnt till after LO is here. And the hospital does have a LC for one on ones, but you can only get in by appointment  after a problem has arised. My hospital is all ass backwards. I hate it, but I'm stuck there thanks for TriCare!

    That stinks. Maybe tell your nurse that you are concerned about how BFing is going and would like to see the LC and they can get you an appointment? White lie, but worth it to get access!

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  • First off, I read alot about how hard breastfeeding was and how a lot of women have problems with it. I kept thinking I was doing it wrong because I had no pain and no problems. Till about the 2nd day. I seriously had no issues with latch on, no pain, didn't even need my lanolin cream. I think it really just depends on the individuals honestly. I would wait on nipple shields and stuff until after you see how it goes.
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    I have no advice because I'm a FTM too. But I have a question, what do you mean you missed your opportunity to meet with a LC? My hospital has someone meet with you after you deliver and there are a lot of breastfeeding support groups after you deliver to help too. Does your hospital offer any of that?

    yes my hospital also had breastfeeding help for new moms after birth

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  • If your LC isn't available to help right away which they should idk what else they would be doing unless they are not always in the LD area of the hospital? Not sure how your hospital works. Then you should be able to get some help from a nurse maybe? They should have quite a bit of experience even though they aren't a lc. Hope this helps
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  • I took my BF'ing class this past week and there was no mention of a hump and I don't even know what a nipple shield is, you probably have learned more than I did by educating yourself on the Internet. The biggest lesson was 1) it's not supposed to hurt or leave you raw and sore and 2) call the LC while you are in the hospital even if you think everything is working. At my hospital the LC is free during your stay, afterwards you may have to pay depending on your insurance.

    She also showed us the rooting reflex, to wait for baby to really open wide, how 'fish lips' are supposed look, and how to squeeze your boob with two fingers parallel to baby's lips to get things going. She recommended the 'cross cradle' position to give you the most control during the first couple of days.

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  • I was a SAHM and EBFd last time.

    First two weeks were the hardest. I got very engorged on day 3 o r 4, so much that DS couldn't latch. Had trouble expressing by hand. 

    Then I hit the 'my nipples feel like they're about to fall off' stage and pushed through.

    DS was a good eater and gainer though so that helped.

    By six weeks things got a lot easier. I'd learned how to nurse lying down with the help of my midwives and that was such a win to get some rest. 

    Then by three months it was really easy. Around four months DS and I learned how to nurse with him in the Ergo carrier - score!

    Call an LC in early if you have any concerns. IMHO $$ spent on a home visit by an LC, or two or three, is well worth it. 

  • Are there any La Leche League groups near you? I missed the breastfeeding class my hospital offered as well, but I went to a La Leche League meeting and that was SUPER helpful. They have a website https://www.llli.org/ [CLICKY!] that can tell you where the closest meeting is. They also have a book called "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" that I have found very helpful in calming my nerves.

    I don't have a lot of friends who BF their kiddos and my mom was unable to with us so I don't have a lot of people to ask. These resources have helped me a lot. :)

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  • Thanks for all the advice in this thread. I too am trying to prepare myself with as much BF info as possible.

    One piece of advice I got re: the LC in the hospital is that even before LO is born, ask the nurses if the LC is available and tell them you want to see her asap after the birth if you can. I'm hoping to see the LC asap, because it can't hurt to have her there observing the initial latch, etc.

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    Are there any La Leche League groups near you? I missed the breastfeeding class my hospital offered as well, but I went to a La Leche League meeting and that was SUPER helpful. They have a website https://www.llli.org/ [CLICKY!] that can tell you where the closest meeting is. They also have a book called "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" that I have found very helpful in calming my nerves.

    This is what I was going to suggest.

    I went to a LLL meeting before I delivered DD. It was helpful, and it was also great, bc I had contact info for help after DD was born. I utilized the LCs in the hospital, and when I got  home, I was still in pain, so I contacted my LLL leader.

    My hump was about 4 weeks. It was painful every feeding during those first 4 weeks. It was bc of hormones. The latch was fine. After those 4 weeks, it was smooth sailing for 14 months.

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  • If your hospital isn't helpful with breastfeeding, ask your pediatrician. Our pediatrician has a LC that comes in and meets with moms (by appt only), and I met with her a lot with DS#1. Your insurance may also give you $ toward it, or pay for it all together.
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  • At 4-5 weeks, DS went from taking about an hour/feeding, to only 15-20 minutes.  I asked the pedi about it, and she said that is to be expected because baby has become good at it by then, and you have also become a good team.

    My nipples were very sore starting about day 3, and were nearly bleeding.  I opted to power through without the nipple shields, and never bought any.  I plan to do the same thing this time, and play it by ear.  If my nipples get so bad that they are bleeding, then I will get them.

    A few tips that I wish I'd known/though of last time:

    Use your own breast milk to help your nipples heal.  Rub a few drops all over your nipples/areola after each feeding and let them air dry.

    Take the time and effort to get a good latch, every time even though it can be frustrating taking the baby off an on the breast.  For us, it was one or two bad latches that started my nipple problems, and it took a week or so for them to heal. 

    If you end up with sore nipples, don't feel bad if you have to pump instead of BF to give your nipples a break.  I choose to dropper feed for these kinds of feedings rather than introduce a bottle (we also chose to supplement a couple of feedings while we were in the hospital because he was hungry and my milk wasn't in yet, and my nipples hurt, it's what worked best for us)

    Good luck, I recommend making the commitment to really give it a good effort for at least 4-6 weeks before giving up because, as you said, of the "hump." 


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  • imagenattn:
    I seem to be a minority, but BFing was pretty easy for me from the very beginning. I never felt a "hump" to get over. DD nursed like a rock star from about 10 minutes old. Wait until you have your LO before borrowing trouble! 

    Pretty much this. Even though DS took to BFing pretty easily, it still took me about a month or so for the twinges of soreness from BFIng to go away completely. And it took another few weeks to get comfortable with BFing in front of friends and family and out in public. Baby steps, but I would wait to see how LO does before just assuming and introducing anything that could inhibit.

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  • I had issues the first 3 months.  My milk didn't even come in for ten days and I had low supply due to some latching issues, so I'm not the standard.  However, I stuck it out and am sooo glad I did!  I ended up bfing for 19 months!  You don't need to buy nipple shields.  They are incredibly hard to wean from (been there, done that!) and not necessary for most people.  If you need one, the LC or nurse at the hospital can provide one and instructions for proper use.  They can contribute to low supply also.

     

     

     

     

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