Physical therapy????

tarapike86 · December 2012

So little miss Emma was 7 moths on the 3rd and has yet to begin crawling. We were at her pediatrician multiple times over the past week for an ear infection. I was joking around saying " charleigh, her older sister, was following me around the house by this age". The doctor web on to say she is concerned about Emma not trying to crawl yet and recommended we get her state run pt.
um..... Don't all kids grow/learn at a different pace. It's not like she does nothing. She has been sitting unsupported for months. Loves to stand and jump. Does tummy time and holds her chest off the floor for up to 30 min before rolling over onto her back.
Maybe it's just me but can we wait until she is at least "behind" a little bit before we jump in with both feet
Any opinion is welcome!
Tia
Tara

littleredfish · December 2012

Yeah, I'd side eye my doctor if she said that to me. My uncle never crawled but when he hit 9 months he suddenly decided to walk. It took him about a week according to my grandmother but he never crawled, no army crawl, no scooting, nothing. Straight to walking. All babies are different; there is no timeline.

tjkdlhb · December 2012

ditto PP...I don't think crawling is even considered a milestone...

bellelamb · December 2012

There have been many studies showing that crawling IS an important milestone. That children who skip it completely have other devolpmental problems including problem solving later in life.
Not that I'm say at seven months it's a problem but it is important to encourage kids to crawl.

littleredfish · December 2012

bellelamb:
There have been many studies showing that crawling IS an important milestone. That children who skip it completely have other devolpmental problems including problem solving later in life. Not that I'm say at seven months it's a problem but it is important to encourage kids to crawl.

I get that it would be important to encourage kids to crawl but I'd actually be interested to read those studies to understand the links they made. My uncle went on to university on an academic scholarship and became a veterinarian. I don't really see how skipping a milestone like crawling would cause developmental problems. Some children just don't enjoy being on the ground (like for tummy time) and I don't see why that would effect their problem sovling abilities.

Not saying the idea is incorrect, just would be interested to read the studies since I can't see an obvious connection. What about kids who don't scoot before they crawl?

tjkdlhb · December 2012

I`d be interested in seeing this too...do you have a link?

ELF4321 · December 2012

Um, that's insane. DD is 7 months today and also nowhere near crawling. Many babies don't do it until they are 8-9 months, if at all. Some skip straight to walking.

tarapike86 · December 2012

Emma from the very beginning has been a very content laid back baby. She has always slept through the night. Seriously since the day she was born. 10 to 12 hours at night. She was a very "lazy" nurser and is generally content to just watch her older sister and brothers play around her. We give her plenty of tummy time and she enjoys it, but is just not wanting to move about on we own. If she was not up to date on other age appropriate milestones my dh and I might put a little more stock into this concern. I think her pediatrician is jumping the gun in this and making it into more than it is. It just seems to follow her pattern of very relaxed and and all around happy baby
Another thing is that all baby's have their own growth pattern and learning curve. The milestones are a guideline to help show what MOST babies are doing at this age. My boys didn't crawl until 10 months and started walking at 15. Our first daughter is just super high energy and has always met developmental milestones early. My dh calls he toddler on crack! Which totally fits
Tara

mrsjengle · December 2012

I don't think she's saying not crawling causes other delays. I think she's saying they in children who skip crawling they often find there were also other delays. I too would like to see the articles.

bellelamb · December 2012

I'll have to ask a friend of mine, her son skipped crawling and had problems with other things like spacial relationships until he was five and broke both legs and had a double cast and had to crawl. They saw a large difference in his learning style after that. So they asked his dr and were told at that point about the studies that were done. She's not on fb tonight but I'll ask her as soon as I can I'm sure she still has the literature.

Edit to add
I am by no means saying that at seven months anyone should be worried!!!

tjkdlhb · December 2012

bellelamb:
I'll have to ask a friend of mine, her son skipped crawling and had problems with other things like spacial relationships until he was five and broke both legs and had a double cast and had to crawl. They saw a large difference in his learning style after that. So they asked his dr and were told at that point about the studies that were done. She's not on fb tonight but I'll ask her as soon as I can I'm sure she still has the literature. Edit to add I am by no means saying that at seven months anyone should be worried!!!

:-) I don't think anyone here thinks 7 months is a time to worry! I'm just really interested in development and had never heard that before. Wondering if it has to do with the problem solving involved in crawling... if it's a set of skills that they develop in that time...it's fascinating to watch DD trying to piece it all together. It's quite the process... She's been working on it for over a month and (at least for her) there are so many mini phases involved...

littleredfish · December 2012

tjkdlhb:

:-) I don't think anyone here thinks 7 months is a time to worry! I'm just really interested in development and had never heard that before. Wondering if it has to do with the problem solving involved in crawling... if it's a set of skills that they develop in that time...it's fascinating to watch DD trying to piece it all together. It's quite the process... She's been working on it for over a month and (at least for her) there are so many mini phases involved...

This is what I wondered but then I'd assume kids who skip crawling and walk instead would be BETTER problem solvers, no? lol I mean they skip a baby step and move on to better things? hahahaha.

tarapike86 · December 2012

Hahahah. That was an awesome answer! Love it

DrRx · December 2012

My daughter has been getting PT from the federally funded program that is run by the state since she was about 4 months old and I can't say enough good things about it. The therapist shows us certain things and exercises/play that we should do with Adalyn to help develop an area. For example, we are working on either scooting or crawling (not sure what she will do) and how to pull herself up. We are also trying to work on the pincher grasp when she eats Cheerios instead of palming it. She also let's us know what areas she is doing great in and is close to closing the gap, such as transferring toys from one hand to another, the prolonged eye contact, and clacking blocks or toys together (precursor to clapping).

Granted, my daughter is such a preemie (26 weeker) and we've always known she needs pt to close the developmental gap, but I would talk to your pedi some more about it. Could it be that you pedi is concerned about more than just crawling? Perhaps there are other fine and gross motor things that she feels should be checked out. You have to go back for 9 month shots--perhaps talk about it then?

I don't know how it is in your state, but for us they do an assessment where they evaluate 5 different areas and compare then to other babies that age. Then they decide how often you see the therapist (once a week, every other week, once a month, etc) and the therapist comes to our home. They do it in your home or the child's daycare because it is important to see how the child does in their own environment. I think that it is better to do something about it earlier than later. The program is a thpe of Early Intervention, but every state calls it something different, and basically by catching and evaluating things earlier It is easier to address any issues. You shouldn't see it as a bad thing. I see it as an additional resource to help my child succeed.

kkchisholm · December 2012

your doctor sounds crazy imo... just looking for a referal. Do they get commission for referals I wonder??

tarapike86 · December 2012

DrRx: I am so happy to hear about Your daughter. I read every post about her and prayed for you and your family. I am glad to hear she is doing great!
We also have the 5 point check every appt. for Emma. She has passed every other section. She is doing great in fine motor skills, babbling, sitting up, ect. The only area that she is not up to par in, according to pediatrician is the attempting to crawl
I am all for early intervention, I was really just wanting to see where others her age were in the crawling front
I love her doctor, she was actually my pediatrician. I think a few if we practices are a little out if date, but it is so hard to find a doctor that you agree on everything.
We did call the state program and try are going to come out for an evaluation. I would like to learn different ways to encourage her if that's what she needs
At this point I am not overly concerned with her lack of crawling, but it is never to early for a little extra help from the professionals
Thank you all for reading this post an helping us with your opinions
Tara

lizby · December 2012

bellelamb:
There have been many studies showing that crawling IS an important milestone. That children who skip it completely have other devolpmental problems including problem solving later in life. Not that I'm say at seven months it's a problem but it is important to encourage kids to crawl.

I never crawled, and I was an A+ student throughout my school years and consider myself to be a good problem solver. Hogwash!

DrRx · December 2012

tarapike86:
DrRx: I am so happy to hear about Your daughter. I read every post about her and prayed for you and your family. I am glad to hear she is doing great! We also have the 5 point check every appt. for Emma. She has passed every other section. She is doing great in fine motor skills, babbling, sitting up, ect. The only area that she is not up to par in, according to pediatrician is the attempting to crawl I am all for early intervention, I was really just wanting to see where others her age were in the crawling front I love her doctor, she was actually my pediatrician. I think a few if we practices are a little out if date, but it is so hard to find a doctor that you agree on everything. We did call the state program and try are going to come out for an evaluation. I would like to learn different ways to encourage her if that's what she needs At this point I am not overly concerned with her lack of crawling, but it is never to early for a little extra help from the professionals Thank you all for reading this post an helping us with your opinions Tara

I'm glad to hear that she is meeting all of her other milestones! You would be surprised how many parents I've spoken with who don't ask about milestones and their pedi forgets to talk about it, etc. I'm glad that you have a great relationship with your pedi! That is definitely something that is difficult to find.

Thank you so much for your T&Ps for Adalyn. As you can see, they definitely made a difference! I don't know what I would've done without my May Mommas who were all cheering Adalyn along. I can't believe that it's almost been a year since she entered this world at 1 pound 12 ounces!

kcircell · December 2012

I read some parts of the book " bright from the start" it is actually what LO musicology class is based around and it explains crawling 's improtance as that to crawl you must use your left leg and right arm at the same time and then vice versa. And all actions that require the baby to make motion across the midline of the body help stench the brain. Same with having the little ones track and object from left to right as well as the game patty cake. Whereas to walk you can just use one side of your body at a time.

bellelamb · December 2012

kcircell:
I read some parts of the book " bright from the start" it is actually what LO musicology class is based around and it explains crawling 's improtance as that to crawl you must use your left leg and right arm at the same time and then vice versa. And all actions that require the baby to make motion across the midline of the body help stench the brain. Same with having the little ones track and object from left to right as well as the game patty cake. Whereas to walk you can just use one side of your body at a time.

Yes I talked to my friend she said her dr told her this plus it has to do with being able to move ones head independently from the rest of the body. Even the shortest crawling, army or traditional helps with this.

Saraevh · December 2012

Ahhhh ... my daughter didn't crawl until 8 or 9 months and is perfectly healthy and my son is 6.5 months and not even close to crawling yet either. Your pedi is crazy. I also never crawled. Started running at 9 months and never looked back. In 2011 I earned my second masters degree with a 3.95 GPA. Guess I was one of the lucky ones

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