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Results from 'specimen' analysis...Not good :(

The dr's office called DH at home. So... I just got this email from DH: 

"Well - I have normal volume, my count was 5.9 million (AVG - 20 million). My white blood cell count is normal - no infections.  The motility (the ability to move) showed that 66% had no movement (0 on a scale of 0-4) after 1 hr.  After eight hours 77% had no movement.  The Morphology showed that the average is 60-65% normal, but mine is the opposite (37% normal).  My total motal count (the bottom line) is the 5.9 million.  They want me to see a urologist to see if a have a vera-seal, which is a vericose vein blockage that could be hampering the flow of sperm.  There is also an over-the-counter enzyme called Proxceed that we might want to look into, but the results wouldn't be seen for 3 months.  They also mentioned the process of artifically placing the sperm in the "right spot".  They said by no means is this a hopeless case, there are plenty of things to look at and other options.   "----

 

I'm not a happy camper right now, and don't know what to think. I thought my irregular cycles/not ovulating  were the reason we weren't getting pregnant; I didn't think it would be his fault :(  it just adds to the stress.  Have any of you had to deal with something like this? 

Re: Results from 'specimen' analysis...Not good :(

  • (((hugs))) well, the silver lining is that now you all have more information and can work from there!

    for the sake of your hub, i wouldn't use the words "his fault" around him. from the guys i have known who have had a less than stellar sperm analysis, they take it verrrrrrrry hard.

    i would take the results to an re and see what they have to say/ what the next step is! 

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  • I don't have any experience with this, but I'm hoping that the bright spot is that this isn't a "hopeless case."

    {{{{hugs}}}} In any case, I'm really sorry y'all are dealing with this. :( 

  • I'm sorry.  It does sound like something can be done about it, and I hope it works out.  Lots of good thoughts being sent your way!  Best wishes!!! ((hugs))
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  • Oh, man, I'm so sorry! 

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    I know it's you're upset right now, but I hope you can see that it's really no one's "fault"!  As in, he didn't mean to have low sperm count/motility, just bad luck.

    While I've not had to deal with this, I do have a very good friend who did, but her husband's numbers were like less than a million.  Only, they didn't find this out until they were trying to get pg with their 2nd child.  They got pg with their first on their 3rd cylce, I think, and didn't think anything of it.  When they tried for their 2nd, it took over a year and then they started getting tested, and learned about his low count.  Her doctors were baffled as to how they ever got pg the first time, because they really have zero chance. They ended up doing IVF for the 2nd.  (btw - the first baby really was her dh's - you can tell just by looking at him!  In case you were thinking something bad!  Surprise )

    So, that said, I think your husband's numbers sound promising, relatively speaking.  At least your doctor has hope, and I think that if he/she didn't, then they would tell you, like my friend's doctor told her.  At least you know what the problem is, and the next step is to come up with a plan for a solution.  You'll be in my prayers.

     

  • I don't have any advice for you, but just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about y'all, and hoping for the best.  On the plus side, it's good that you have some answers and can make a plan to move forward from here.  Good luck!
  • No experience here...I just wanted to tell you that I'm so sorry.  But at least you have some answers and your doctors think that it's not a lost cause.  (((Hugs))) and prayers for you.
  • I'm sorry you didn't get the news you were hoping for, but now that you have the information from the doctor, you can see a specialist & move forward with the next step(s).  All is not lost!!!

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  • We went through something similar.  I wasn't ovulating so my doc put me on Clomid to help with that, but she also wanted DH to do a sperm analysis to make sure things were ok on his end.  He had tons of sperm, but we found out that only 18% had a normal head shape (they told me that they want to see >30%, not necessarily 60-65%.  By these standards, at least that number is okay with your DH).  With his high sperm count that still meant that about 14.5 million were ok after 8 hours, but our doc warned that it could negatively impact our fertility and that DH should see a urologist.  We were so upset, especially DH who up until that point was positive it would work.  The next day we got our BFP so things worked out well and we never followed up on it. 

    Your DH can also try redoing the sperm analysis.  We were planning on doing that if it hadn't worked for us.  Good luck!  I hope it is either a fluke or something easily remedied.

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  • ((HUGS))

     So like, I have no idea if this thingie works or not, but I saw it in CONCEIVE magazine when I was at the OB's office for my Annual earlier this week.

    https://www.conceptionkit.com/s-14-conception-kit.aspx

     

     

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  • Ditto MC.  DH was crushed by his sperm analysis so I'd treat that as a very sensitive subject.
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  • I'm so sorry. ((HUGS))

    But like pp said, its so great that you have more info/answers now and will be able to formulate a plan to move forward. You most definitely still have lots of hope, so don't think this is a dead end!! Definitely get in to see an RE and go over all your options.?

    Again, I am so sorry. I can only imagine how hard this must be for you. ?

  • I have no experience and you have received excellent advice already but I am sorry, that sucks.

  • I'm sorry your news isn't as good as you wanted, but at least they didn't think it wasn't going ot happen!

    when we got serious about trying, dh was terrified it'd be 'his fault' if we didn't, so I'd be careful about saying that around him (not that you are saying it's all your fault or anything jsut something to keep int he back of your head... you know boys and their bits...)

    that cap thing looked interest taytee posted about. 

     *hugs* good luck!

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  • I am sorry you did not get the news you wanted.  I agree with pp's though atleast now you have more info and can set a plan.  (((hugs)))
  • I'm so sorry! I know how frustrating and hopeless it can feel.

    I would def. recommend getting him tested again. Different things can affect it, and as mentioned above, different doctors look for different levels (my DH's doctor had different "normal ranges" than you mentioned that they wanted him to be in).

    Another thing to keep in mind is that DH's urologist said if we hadn't conceived in 6 months, for him to go back and consider being put on clomid (!). I was shocked, as I had just assumed clomid was only for women. Apparently it helps men's fertility, too.  

    Bottom line is that there is still a LOT they can do with those numbers...you'll be KU in no time! 

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  • Ok, Jay had a bit of an issue w/ his sperm too.  I'm not quite sure of the numbers but the RE definitely thought we needed to do ICSI when we did IVF. 

    Jay was put on Clomid for several months and it did help.  Then Jay was taking the Proxseed (they sell it at GNC in a gold bottle, can't remember the generic name of it) and that also helped.

    I think your husband might have been talking about an IUI when he mentioned the artificially putting his sperm where it needs to go and I had 2 of those work for me.  It's not extraordinarily expensive and most ob/gyns will do 3 of them.  They are not covered by most insurances though-we paid ~$300 per IUI w/ the ob.  

    If your husband is going to do another SA, have him refrain from wearing briefs, smoking, drinking and taking hot baths.  If he does any of those and stops, see if it makes a difference then you might be able to see how to go about TTC from there.

    If you have any questions, page me.  I've been there, done that!  Kim777 also has male factor issues...

  • Sorry the results weren't what you were hoping for.  Sad I don't have any advice, just wishing you good luck and strength as you go forward.
  • i don't have any advice either, but just wanted to say sorry you're having to go through this. but like the pp mentioned, good news is the dr. say it's not hopeless and there are plenty of options. big hugs!
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  • Ugh, I am sorry for the tough news. But I think the others are right in that it seems like you have a lot of options!
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  • Sorry that you are dealing with this, but now you know what can be done. So good luck to you both
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  • hugs to you and  I'm sorry you're dealing with this.
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  • No advice, but I do have lots of (((((hugs)))))) just for you.
  • Hey there!  We are having similiar issues.  Whatever you try remember that it usually takes 3 months for the results to show up.  I will try to find the link that offers suggestions on improving the sample.
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  • We had to do an IUI as well.  My DH had plenty of swimmers, but they didn't like to swim.  His 8 hour count was something ridiculously low.  The IUI really isn't that bad.  It was *much* cheaper than my injectable meds.  Chin up.  :)  I know it's discouraging, but they can do a lot of great things with those numbers.
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  • Yep, we have MFI and it sounds like your DH's numbers are very similar to mine. I know that may not be terribly comforting since we did IVF, but at least we were able to have a baby! We were told that there was a chance IUI would work for us, but it never did. I would absolutely make an appt with an RE right away. Since you have ovulation issues it would be much better to do IUIs with an RE rather than your OB. Your OB won't do an u/s with your IUI to make sure you are indeed ovulating at the precise time that you need to be. So it could be a total waste of your time. The RE will use u/s to track your ovulation and determine when you should do the IUI. I am more than happy to answer questions you may have. You can page me or email me anytime at kim777 at aol dot com. If you need an RE rec I highly recommend Dr. Vaughn. If you prefer a woman I know joyco really likes Dr. Hansard. They are both at Texas Fertility Center.

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