HR Issue Over Appointments

Re: HR Issue Over Appointments

• marshmallows member

  November 2012

  You dont really have many options with rescheduling appointments since their hours ate limited. Can you bring your computer home after and work from home or go back to the office to catch up? I don't see an issue if you are able to make up the time and get your work done.

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• mendota67

  November 2012

  And if they fire you, you can probably get unemployment!

  

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• a13049 member

  November 2012

  Unfortunately if you don't have sick leave or pto then they don't really have to give you the time off, or pay you when you take off for the appointments. It sucks but its how it works. If you we're continuing employment with them, then you can count that time as part of your fmla, but since it seems like you aren't returning then you don't qualify for fmla.  

   

   

   

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• Poppy523 member

  November 2012

  I didn't even get leniency in the beginning.  I am barely getting by using all my sick time for appointments.  I even took a vacation 1/2 day so I could go to an appointment.  It stinks, but I don't qualify for FMLA so there is nothing I can do.  I try to go during my lunch hour so that I only have to take the time off that I go over on for my hour, but I was really sick a few weeks ago and had to go to work because I literally had no sick time left after all these appointments.  It is about to get worse
  

        
  
  

  
  
  

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• meechellebelle member

  November 2012

  a13049:

  Unfortunately if you don't have sick leave or pto then they don't really have to give you the time off, or pay you when you take off for the appointments. It sucks but its how it works. If you we're continuing employment with them, then you can count that time as part of your fmla, but since it seems like you aren't returning then you don't qualify for fmla.  

   Actually after reading through our workers manual it says that as an exempt employee I don't have a set number of sick days. Instead I can take a reasonable amount of time off with pay for my own illness or appointments with my managers approval. I think it's reasonable to have to go to an hour appointment every 2-3 weeks which I make up when I stay late most of the week. And when I do work from home on the weekends. The only thing that really pisses me off is that my boss was totally ok with this and told me to take whatever time I needed for appointments. The second she got a complaint she turned her opinions around and is just being difficult.

  Oh well, again - leaving soon. Just needed to vent

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• skaya0921

  November 2012

  I completely understand!  I have to get my cervix measured and the P17 shot every week.  My job was okay at first but now it has been a very big problem.  I was recently just put on partial bed rest and instead of working my regular eight hours I can only work four.  I basically had to explain to my HR that it was doctors orders and I have no control unless the want to be response from the stress I will get from losing my job and the harm that it MIGHT effect my unborn child they would just have to work with me.  

   

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• budgirl007 member

  November 2012

  meechellebelle:

  a13049:

  Unfortunately if you don't have sick leave or pto then they don't really have to give you the time off, or pay you when you take off for the appointments. It sucks but its how it works. If you we're continuing employment with them, then you can count that time as part of your fmla, but since it seems like you aren't returning then you don't qualify for fmla.  

   Actually after reading through our workers manual it says that as an exempt employee I don't have a set number of sick days. Instead I can take a reasonable amount of time off with pay for my own illness or appointments with my managers approval. I think it's reasonable to have to go to an hour appointment every 2-3 weeks which I make up when I stay late most of the week. And when I do work from home on the weekends. The only thing that really pisses me off is that my boss was totally ok with this and told me to take whatever time I needed for appointments. The second she got a complaint she turned her opinions around and is just being difficult.

  Oh well, again - leaving soon. Just needed to vent

  I'm in HR and have some experience with this. Make sure to print off the documentation from your boss just in case. Also - as an exempt employee this shouldn't be an issue at all and HR should know it. By law if you work more than half the day they can't require you to take any PTO/Sick leave for it since you aren't an hourly employee. Sounds like you are making up all your time which makes the issue a mute point but technically by the wage and labor laws you shouldn't even be required to do that since you are exempt! Sounds like it's a good thing you're getting out of there!

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• MamaKitty3

  November 2012

  If you qualify for FMLA then taking time off for appointments should be a part of that.  I remember my LOA absence papers the doctor had to fill out and there was something in there regarding need for appointments and how often they would occur.  Human resources is suppose to be there to help you that is what HR is for.  Someone in that department is being not so nice.  Goodness, I know we are suppose to be grateful we have a job but whatever happened to appreciating a good worker.
  

  

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• KD79 member

  November 2012

  budgirl007:

  meechellebelle:

  a13049:

  Unfortunately if you don't have sick leave or pto then they don't really have to give you the time off, or pay you when you take off for the appointments. It sucks but its how it works. If you we're continuing employment with them, then you can count that time as part of your fmla, but since it seems like you aren't returning then you don't qualify for fmla.  

   Actually after reading through our workers manual it says that as an exempt employee I don't have a set number of sick days. Instead I can take a reasonable amount of time off with pay for my own illness or appointments with my managers approval. I think it's reasonable to have to go to an hour appointment every 2-3 weeks which I make up when I stay late most of the week. And when I do work from home on the weekends. The only thing that really pisses me off is that my boss was totally ok with this and told me to take whatever time I needed for appointments. The second she got a complaint she turned her opinions around and is just being difficult.

  Oh well, again - leaving soon. Just needed to vent

  I'm in HR and have some experience with this. Make sure to print off the documentation from your boss just in case. Also - as an exempt employee this shouldn't be an issue at all and HR should know it. By law if you work more than half the day they can't require you to take any PTO/Sick leave for it since you aren't an hourly employee. Sounds like you are making up all your time which makes the issue a mute point but technically by the wage and labor laws you shouldn't even be required to do that since you are exempt! Sounds like it's a good thing you're getting out of there!

  This!  And the same from the person after her that said that FMLA entitles you to doctor's appointments.  Get your FMLA papers filled out now, and make sure your provider fills out the sections for "appointments".  If they want to play hard ball, you just play hard ball right back.  

  I also work in HR, and I've seen this happen at other companies I've worked for (and it actually happened to me).  The best thing you can do is get your documentation.  If anything happens, at least you know you have it documented and you are right, where as, they are wrong.  Also, since the VP seemed to be pretty accommodating, is that person someone you could talk to about this? 

  

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• Puck1182 member

  November 2012

  I just want to echo what the other folks with HR experience said!  I worked in HR prior to moving to internal audit, and I handled a lot of the FMLA requests.  As long as your employer meets the requirements (number of employees within X amount of miles - I can never remember which number is 50 and which is 75 and I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment!) and you've worked at least 1250 hours in the past 12 months, you're entitled to use FMLA for your appointments.

  
  
  

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• JACKIE_RS88 member

  November 2012

  Ditto I'm an exempt employee and my appointments are never an issue. I'm nice enough to schedule them around our busy times but if I need to go to the doctor I do without an issue.  Doctor/dentist/gyno whatever.  

   I work overtime without pay so taking time off for stuff like this is not an issue. 

    

       
  

  
  

  
  

   

  
  

  
  

  

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• nraymond1

  November 2012

  Yeah, mine is doing a similar kind of thing. She was cool with it at first but overnight for no apparent reason she wasn't. I've been taking PTO to go to appointments since I work until 4 and they don't always have 4:30 appointments at the doc, although I beg for those whenever I can. But even with taking the time off, she says now it's my responsibility to make sure someone is in the office. Like it's my problem there's only 3 people in the tiny office and one works part time until 1:30 and the other is crazy busy with meetings all over the place. Thanks for making me feel less alone on this. I'm kind of doing the same thing everyone else suggested, just counting the days until my maternity leave! 

  

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• pitterpatter129 member

  November 2012

  Eh. I've been skipping OB appts (with the OB's blessing) due to something similiar. I teach and there is no one to cover me. If I take off for even five min, then it counts as a whole day of sick leave. I don't have the freedom to leave for an hour and come back - they have to find a sub and pay that person for a whole day. It sucks bit it is what it is. Agree with pp that you should be counting it as FMLA leave.

  

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