My husband is active duty military. Do any of you happen to know what kind of leave the father gets once the baby is born? I know FMLA is 12 weeks, but does this apply to active duty? I've tried to research online, and google has failed me. I've asked him. He doesn't know, and doesn't seem too concerned to find out until it gets closer. Just curious if any of you know so I can put my mind at rest. I'm kind of hoping he can take the full 12 weeks, so that I can go back to work after 6 weeks and not have to put the baby in daycare (none of my maternity leave is paid, and I make well over twice what he makes, so it makes sense for me to go back to work first).
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Re: Active duty paternity leave?
CJ 05/29/2013
Since October 2009 the DoD has authorized paternity leave for married active duty - upon approval from his command your DH should be eligible to get ten consecutive days of non-chargeable leave that must be taken within forty-five days of the birth of your LO. That's not counting any leave he's earned that he might want to take in addition.
i thought it was within a year. for example if your husband is deployed the first 6 months he can take it when he gets home but before the child turns 1
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Honestly, this was my reaction too. But I was trying to be nice. But seriously, OP, most women, who actually give birth and need to physically recover, don't get 12 weeks, and you thought your husband would? Really?
I know the regs are slightly different if your husband is deployed when the baby is born. I think he has sixty days after redeployment to take his paternity leave, but I don't know if that only applies before the LO turns one. I would think it wouldn't since I know there have been 15 and 18 month deployments and it would be a shame if those soldiers had missed out on spending that extra ten days with their new LOs.
But seriously, have you ever READ the FMLA laws? All women, and their husbands, both can take the full 12 weeks. Whether they choose to or not is up to them. Clearly I was asking because I thought it wouldn't apply to the military.
Thanks to everyone else who gave a real answer. I appreciate it.
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My H got the 10 days paternity leave, but his command was pretty awesome and didn't have it start for several days. LO was born on Thursday, out of hospital on Saturday, but had to come back to have his bilirubin checked Sun, Mon, and Tuesday. The commander said his leave wouldn't start until we didn't have those daily appointments...so Wednesday. And they only counted the work days, not weekends. So he got lots of time off to stay home and help out. m
We're in a similar situation...I make way more than he does, and will be going back after 6 weeks. We will be putting our LO in the CDC on base where I work as a civilian. As much as I hate to have him there at 6 weeks old, at least I will be close.
Wow, that is awesome! I picture my husband's command being similar to yours. They're very lenient and familyoriented. And that's nice that you can be so close and go check on baby whenever you want. I work about 40 minutes from where we live, and we'll be putting the baby in a daycare in the town we live in, so we definitely won't have that luxury :. Enjoy that as much as possible!
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Also thought this.
Everyone DID give real answers, OP. No need to get snippy and they weren't particularly snarky about the answer you didn't like. For women who have been familiar with the military for awhile it's just funny to think they'd get 12 weeks of leave. Chill out.
Blah blah blah blah blah is all I'm reading there. Let me chill out pronto, because I'm all worked up and stuff.
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Well isn't that the picture of maturity right there. I'm guessing you are fairly young.
First and foremost, I wasn't even trying to be snarky. I have a sarcastic sense of humor, and anyone with any experience with the military thought it was funny that you actually thought it was a possibility. I'd say you have a lot to learn about the military life. it was a real answer. Get a sense of humor.
I also sense butthurt for no particular reason.
Yes. But FMLA is UNPAID leave. So even if military could take it, your DH wouldn't get a paycheck.
To answer your question, DH got 10 days of un-charged, consecutive leave. It is honestly a better leave policy than most employers have. Most US employers don't have any maternity/paternity leave (other than FMLA, which again, is unpaid).
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DH got 10 days as well. He was on shore duty at a wonderful command and was basically able to come home whenever I needed him to (within reason) and came to every doctor's appointment. LOL now we are back to reality with sea duty and it's a wee bit different.
Based on my experience and friend's experiences, it all depends on the command.
Young, immature, butthurt. You just summed up my whole life in 3 words. You must be an old, mature, non-butthurt lady to do all of that over the internet. Impressive.
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Well. To be fair, I only implied you were young and lacked maturity. Butthurt wasn't my gem. So, I can only take credit for the two. But yes.i am rather impressive, lol.
Here I sit, pushing 30 in a couple months, and I am considered old in the military. It boggles my mind at times. You strike me as a young, freshly married woman. You have a long ways to go. That is not an insult. We all started out with ideas of grandeur, and each was smashed down just as quickly as yours was. I have a decade of knowledge than one can only earn through time. You can take the classes offered to learn the histories, but nothing is a greater lesson than living it.
Don't be so sensitive. Learn to have a sense of humor. If your H is still in in 10 years, I hope someone asks this question. Why? Because all you're going to want to do is pat her on the top of the head and say, "Aww. That's sweet."
This is a public forum after all, but it can be so much more for many women. Friendships have been created through these boards. An abundance of information can be distributed to those who need it. I can't tell you how many spouses were schooled here about the importance of OPSEC/PERSEC. So I get that you may not understand sarcasm, or you might just find it offensive. Either way, get used to it. You will encounter every different personality out there while your H is serving. Just let it roll off.
This. Moms are back to work in the military after 42 days. They are still non-deployable for 180 days (which can be waived at 4 months), but 42 days off is what we get. The 10 days paternity leave was designed to give dad sometime at home, but as PPs have said, there is no guarantee. I would have him try o start figuring it out earlier in the pregnancy, rather than later. He needs to make sure his chain of command is aware you are pregnant, which could be beneficial in the long run.
This. Exactly.
For the record I mentioned you being butthurt. Which you obviously still are. It'll be ok, boo boo.
DH is AD USMC and this is what they did for us also. He had also pulled extra weight in the unit planning the ball and running T4T consecutively. He ended up getting 6 weeks total. That was last duty station, I can tell you where we are currently we would be lucky to get ten days. GL.
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DH's command tried to tell him something similar so I looked up the ALARACT 062/2009 Army Guidance for Paternity Leave for the Fiscal Year of 2009 (with no current expiration date). I would suggest googling it so that your DH can bring the reg to his command's attention. That's what we had to do. It turned out to simply be a matter of his first sergeant being unaware of the details of the reg. I don't know if your DH is Army or one of the other branches, but from what I understand all branches have similar (but not necessarily identical) policies, so you should be able to find details on-line if needed.
Let me re-emphasize this. Paternity leave is not guaranteed. It CAN be denied by a command. Heck, passes and regular leave can be denied by command. Do NOT go into this thinking YH is entitled to 10 free days of leave, he is not.
CJ 05/29/2013
This.
One of my kids was born on a Monday. MH had to go back to work the following Monday. My youngest was born on a Friday. Because it was a few days before Christmas, he had those days off. He was back to work the following Thursday. He was not able to use leave days because they have set leave dates they can take. His training schedule didn't allow for him to have the full 10 days. Don't count on them.
<-------------Clearly butthurt. Don't worry, I'll off myself tomorrow instead of today so no one will think it's your fault, boo boo.
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I'm all about jokes, but for someone who is affiliated with the military, you should know how high our suicide rate is. Your "off myself" statement is not only not funny, but also inconsiderate towards the military and all those who have went through a situation like that.
My husband got 2 weeks paternity leave from the unit. He was also given extra time before I delivered because we were high risk and having some issues/complications. I think it is really based on the unit and situation
As a person who lost a family member to suicide, you are not flucking funny. Don't be an assshole.
Thank you for asking, I had the same question after an initial reading of FMLA laws (they did give me a shred of hope, that maybe possibly my husband is eligible, but I guess the USN is not a "covered employer"). Many of his coworkers wives have delivered, and usually 10 days is about what they get off. He might (we hope) get a few more days since he will be returning from a 9 month deployment.
It is a legitimate question since the FMLA has been amended since 1993, including relatively recently- section 565 of the 2010 NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act). These changes affect your FMLA for the better (i.e.: if your husband is injured, and you are the care provider, you can take up to 26 weeks in a 12 month period).
I work weird hours/shifts, and childcare is not an option for us (can't even find a nanny, my hours are that crazy). Thankfully, my mom had planned to retire anyway, and my job is letting me take as much unpaid time as I need (I'm not FMLA eligible, I found out). I hope your situation works out!
I found this site helpful: https://www.dol.gov/whd/fmla
To be eligible for FMLA benefits, an employee must:
work for a covered employer;
have worked for the employer for a total of 12 months;
have worked at least 1,250 hours over the previous 12 months; and
work at a location where at least 50 employees are employed by the employer within 75 miles.