Trouble TTC

Low testosterone

Hello ladies.

Quick background: Me 27, DH 29.  TTC for 13 months. I ovulate every month (i temp/chart), diagnosed with thyroiditis in April. DH's SA was fair, 75% motility, 22 mill/ml, 32% morph,  He has a history of an undescended testicle.

 We just found out DH's testosterone level is pretty low.  Average for his age is the 600's and his was 302.  Range is 300-800 I believe.  He has a very low libido, poor energy, hardly any facial hair and sometimes difficulty keeping an erection.

The office was talking about starting t shots.  I've heard these are really bad for sperm.  We're going to see an endocrinologist in December for another opinion.  Just wondering if anyone's DH takes clomid?  I read some info and it seems to up testosterone and sperm count. 

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Re: Low testosterone

  • Testosterone replacement therapy of any kind will cause sperm count to plummet, and in many cases cease to (usually temporarily) exist, in men. Its a fact. Find a different doctor or urologist who specializes in MFI, if anything. My DH was taking Testopel and applying Androgel for his low T, and now he's azoospermic from the T treatment. His last 2 SA's showed ZERO sperm. Not one. He's been on Clomid 50 mg a day, and just started HCG injects (3,000 units weekly), but there's still no improvement. T treatment is the worst thing you can do if you're TTC.

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    *DX: Severe MFI- Low T, Delayed Ejaculation & Azoospermia*
    *Working to improve DH's numbers on Clomid & HCG injects before we can start IVF*
    *SA 1- No sperm* 7/25/12
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  • We suffer from Severe MFI, and husband has a history of undescended testicle, he had the surgery when he was little. He was also a premie.  

    We found out throught a URologist that dealt with Infertility that in a lot of cases (my husband was one) even though they are able to operated and retrieve testicle sometimes they are not fully functioning, if not functioning at all.

    T treatment is NOT good at all when TTC. Please Please Please go to a urologist that specializes in this. My husband was placed on clomid 50mg every other day while we IVF cycle. RE did this to increase the sperm. It will not help with the Morph or motility, but she adv if she could get more good sperm. It worked. I also added CO Q10 and his motility went from 25% to 44%. Morph was same 2.I added a vitamin for men over 50 helps with prostate.  When we are done having kids, she will then change his treatment.

    IF you ever need to talk please feel free to inbox me. Best of luck on your journey, and be your advocate!!!!

    Married BF 6/29/2002/
    TTC Since Aug 2011/
    ME:34 all clear/DH:41 DX Severe MFI/
    IVF w/ICSI OCT 2012 Stims started 10/8/ER 10/19/12/ET 10/24/Beta#1 11/2=BFN (beta was 1.2)

    IVF 2.0-Baseline 11/7/12 beta 0/All Clear
    Stim start 11/7/12//ER 11/19 11M//10F
    ET 2 embies 11/24//Beta#1 28 Beta #2 23 Beta#3 29
    stop meds Beta#4 37/C/P 5W5D EDD:8/12/13/IVF#3 in Jan

    Ivf 3-frozen 3 poor 3day/fet=bfn

    Ivf#4 New dr. New protocol=beta1 197 beta#2 677 beta#3 1557
     u/s 8/13 =TWINS 2 strong hb
    Due Date 4/4/14

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  • No T treatment! Go see a urologist who specializes in MFI. My hubby is on clomid and he too had low T among other things. We are waiting for the three month mark to retest his count, but he gets his hormones checked regularly and his testosterone levels have freaking tripled. No wonder he's turned into a horny teenage boy again lol. I'm so curious to see what this will mean for his count! Definitely go see a urologist if you guys aren't already :

  • Thanks for all your answers so far!!

    DH was so excited to start T shots and start feeling better, I felt really bad when I told him no because of the sperm thing.  Hopefully he can get on some clomid and start feeling better.  It's hard to get pregnant when he only wants sex 1 time a week. 

    Good Luck to all your husbands as well.

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  • Wow! What kind of doctor suggested testosterone treatment? My DH has bilateral varicocele (just went in for Varicocele repair surgery a few days ago). He, too, had testosterone at the levels you describe your DH's levels. We discovered this because my DH's SA results were "sub-fertile" category. DH went to a Urologist that specializes in MFI and DH asked why he couldn't just take testosterone to increase his levels and the Urologist explained why not, I forget what he said, but I do remember him saying that it was not an effective way to boost levels. I think it can increase levels too much and just create an off-balance of other hormones which is counter-productive?

    We first tried a round of Arimidex which is like Clomid in that it's not directly putting testosterone into his system, yet helps converts estrogen (or estradolil--I forget now) into Testosterone. Blood work confirmed that his testosterone did indeed increase after taking medication, but his SA's stayed the same so that is why we then went for Varicocele repair surgery. Urologist said that DH should start seeing improvement in energy and feeling less tired in a few months because surgery should help improve his testosterone levels naturally (as well as improve his SA **fingers crossed**). Good luck to you guys!

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    TTC since April 2011. DH Dx MFI in February 2012. BFP #1: 7.16.12. MMC dx: 8.22.12, D&C 8.28.12, TTC Again November 2012. DH Varicocele repair November 2012; Repeat SA showed "dramatic" improvement February 2013 (awesome!)
    BFP #2: 3.26.13, EDC: 12.7.13. Anya born December 9th, 2013!
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    I also added CO Q10 and his motility went from 25% to 44%.

     What is CO Q10?

    Married since June 2008

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    TTC Post Chemotherapy
    Unexplained Infertility

    DH- SA Normal, Lap on 8/8/13
    BFP! 11/7/13 EDD 07/15/14 changed to 07/23/14 after first u/s

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  • I also have a DH that has low test. My DHs test is a little below 200. So his sperm count is very affected by this, it ranges from less than a million to 6 million being his highest. While ttc our DS he was on clomid 25mg daily, it did improve his sperm count drastically. His SA after 2 months of being on clomid was 110 million. On our first iui it was 140 million and it did end up getting pg.

    With that being said 22 million really isn't that low. My re says anything over 20 million is normal. His test is low though so maybe the clomid would help his other symptoms. Has your DH had more than one SA done? I would prob get another done if he hasn't.
    Diagnosed MFI- low sperm count  
    DS-Born 7/27/11 After 2 years of IF we have our little man
    TTC#2 January 2013
    11 Medicated cycles gave us
    B/G Twins born 10/8/14 @ 32 weeks
  • hey ladies, man here! I was diagnosed with testosterone deficiency a few months back. The doc prescribed some heavy duty meds to take but since i always like to have a natural holistic approach, i hit the gym and yoga. did more squats and tough yoga postures that would improve my testosterone levels. I was also eating healthy. My T levels showed some rise but i wasn't still out of the pit. I started looking for some herbal supplement. I tried Ageless Male for a while, and it worked like magic! My hormonal levels are within the acceptable range now, and low sex drive has all but vanished! Go through Ageless Male testimonials? It has helped quite a few battle low testosterone.

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