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VinaHoney
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This is an interesting topic...
VinaHoney
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Vaccinating your newborn.
What do you ladies think about it? Has anyone researched it and made a decision on it? Do you have other children who have or have not been and changed your mind about this one? And which do you think are safe to skip or delay ?
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Re: This is an interesting topic...
Well, color me surprised! The vaccine debate is brought up yet again.
*shrug* people don't search. So I give up.
EXACTLY.
This kitty is so cute!!!
I can understand delaying and spacing vaccinations out. I do understand that there may be issues associated with vaccinations...but most (i.e., connection with autism) are not well supported in studies.
Eradicating disease has been a societal undertaking, and isn't effective if individuals decide to opt out. Mothers used to stand by in horror while their infants died horrible, torturous deaths. I for one don't really want to go back to that. If you really need convincing of the societal (and individual benefit) of vaccinations, go read the symptoms for some of these diseases, and associated causes of death. Here's a fun one for Halloween:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox
This.
I will also be vaccinating, however, I dont understand your comment. If you are vaccinating your children then why do you feel you need to judge others who are making informed decisions to not vaccinate? I would bet money that anyone who chooses not to vaccinate has a million reasons why they arent vaccinating.... they dont just come to that decision lightly. How do you feel about people who alter the vaccination schedule?
I'm not the OP but I will give my opinion. Some children have weakened immune systems and cannot recieve vaccines and some cannot be given to children under a certain age. Vaccines, while largely effective are not 100% guaranteed. People who do not vaccinate put all of these people at risk.
DD 12/20/99, DS 12/14/12, M/C 9/2014, M/C 1/2015
That makes sense. Thank you for clarifying.
My husband and I are first time parents, so we looked into it. We watched a documentary on Netflix called Vaccine Wars which we both found to be unbiased. We then followed up with questions to our OB and pediatrician.
The medical community is unwavering in their stance that vaccines do not cause autism and that you should vaccinate your children. Apparently the main reason people believe that the MMR (Measles, Mumps, Rubella) vaccine causes autism is because their children seemed fine until not long after they receive it. However, it is an unfortunate coincidence that autism symptoms are typically not present until approximately the same age range kids are when this shot is given. By delaying giving the shot, your children are exposed to the illness.
There have been multiple studies completed on whether vaccines are linked to autism and they have not found a link. Autism is present in just as many children who are vaccinated as non vaccinated. They have studied children all over the world and multiple countries have done studies. The New England Journal of Medicine is one of the most highly respected medical journals and their stance agrees with this.
Because so many are choosing not to vaccinate, it is decreasing our herd immunity and we are seeing a comeback of some of these diseases. In the area I live, pertussis (whooping cough) has been in the paper a few times. The scary part is that it can be lethal to a newborn, however you can't even start to vaccinate against it until 6 weeks of age. Therefore all our little newborns have to rely on herd immunity. For this reason, people judge those who do not vaccinate because it puts others in danger.
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We vaccinate on schedule. There is only one side to this "debate". The fact that vaccinating your child against deadly, preventable diseases is in your best interest, the best interest of your child, and the best interest of society in general.
My thoughts exactly
I used to fall into the camp of "whoever does not vaccinate their child is ridiculous and ignorant IMO". However due to life circumstances, I had cause to seriously research many health concerns this past year. In the course of my research I discovered many surprising things. One of them being that vaccines really should not be an across the board, unquestioned decision.
I will try not to make this a novel but basically I started to research the GAPS diet for my family for various health reasons. Reading this book by a certified neurologist and nutritionist led me to change my mind about many things; the food industry and vaccines. In her book Dr. Campbell McBride explains the function of various parts of the digestive system in great detail and in layman's terms. She explains how the digestive system directly impacts the other systems. The immune system for instance is mostly contained in the lower part of the small intestine. I had no idea.
Due to the highly processed unhealthy foods that now compose the typical American's diet, we are running into very serious health problems. Basically what is happening is the bacteria that lives in our gut has become unbalanced. There are healthy bacteria that keep the opportunistic or pathogenic bacteria in check. One example of pathogenic bacteria is Yeast (Candida). When these pathogens get out of control they wreak havoc on our bodies. The yeast bacteria in particular is a screw shaped bacteria that actually bores holes in the intestinal lining. This causes "leaky gut syndrome".
Leaky gut is very common in children with autism. It is a widely accepted theory by most doctors. Now when processed food and things like vaccines are introduced to the body, the leaky intestinal wall leaks these undigested food particles and metals from vaccines into the bloodstream. They then will bind to neuroreceptors and impair brain function.
Dr. Campbell McBride goes on to say that there are very easy steps to take to determine whether or not your child should be able to be vaccinated. Let me be clear here though. Dr. Campbell McBride states in her book that unless we are prepared to go back to a world where most children die of a horrible disease vaccines are absolutely necessary. She would just like to see a more careful protocol in place before administering them.
Children with a compromised bowel and a family history of GI distress (yes it IS genetic) should not receive vaccines immediately. They should be put on the healing diet and then through urine and stool samples, checked every few months for the bacterial growth. When they have a healthy digestive system again then it is ok to start the regular vaccine schedule. For those that are somewhat compromised but not severely, or have no prior family history, they should be put on an amended delayed schedule. Those that are healthy should receive the vaccines as scheduled. One thing she does say though is that she believes vaccines should never be compounded.
This got very long but I do urge you to please do research carefully. This is a very serious topic and it should not be taken lightly by either side.
I forgot to add that in regards to Autism, Dr. Campbell McBride states that if the child has a compromised enough system autism will develop regardless of the parents' decisions re. vaccines. It just may be that a vaccine may be "the straw that breaks the camel's back" so to speak, and causes it to develop sooner than it otherwise would have. Conversely, children may receive vaccines and be seemingly fine and then several months later develop autism.
I really am not able to do this lady justice through these few quotes. If you have time and interest I really encourage you to read more about her and her work.
Also I wanted to add that earlier this summer the pharmaceutical company Merck, which does all of the MMR vaccines sold in the US, had 2 employees come forward from inside the company saying they witnessed data falsification and manipulation in order for the company to promote sales. The vaccines were being tested using animal antibodies not human antibodies which would make all of their data useless. It was a very interesting story, but hard to find. This big multi million dollar company does not want this made public.
So in short, just research carefully and thoroughly.
ETA: https://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/27/47851.htm
This.
Our daughter received all of her vaccines on schedule. We didnt do much research when it came to vaccines, we just took our doctors word for it.
This time however we have been researching ALOT. The only vaccine that we will be delaying is the Hep B vaccine. Firstly, we do not feel comfortable with the amount of aluminum that is in this vaccine. And secondly, we do not feel that our daughter is at risk contracting this disease. (Seeing as how she will be home with us and not in daycare).
Here is just some info that helped base our decision on:
As Dr. Jane Orient of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) so eloquently testified to Congress:
"With hepatitis B vaccine, the case for mandatory immunization with few exemptions is far less persuasive than with smallpox or polio vaccines, which protected against highly lethal or disabling, relatively common, and easily transmissible diseases..."For most children, the risk of a serious vaccine reaction may be 100 times greater than the risk of hepatitis B."
Aluminum levels in the Hepatitis B vaccine far exceeds the safety levels Established by the FDA. The FDA sites that toxic dose for a baby is between 10- 20 micrograms (mcg). Day one, baby gets the Hepatitis B vaccine containing 250mcg.