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Don't daycare centers HAVE to let babies cry?

I mean, if the ratio is say, 3 babies to every 1 staff member, and all 3 babies are crying, what do you think happens?? What are they supposed to do?

I am not trying to start a CIO debate here, I am just saying this is one thing that I considered when I was looking at daycare.  Every center I visited had at least one crying baby in the swing, or on a play mat or in a crib.

 

Just sayin.'

Re: Don't daycare centers HAVE to let babies cry?

  • pretty much. the lady i work for  has a 5mo old there that screams if she isnt held.
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  • crying & CIO are two completely different things in my book.

  • There is a difference between leaving a baby to cry alone, and trying to soothe a baby even though you can't pick the baby up.

    My daycare also has a policy that if a baby cries for more than 10 minutes and can't be consoled, they call the parent.

  • imagephanatic:

    crying & CIO are two completely different things in my book.

     

    Phan, I agree. But, when you leave a baby unattended while you tend to another one, wouldn't you consider that CIO?? I would. I mean, isn't that baby crying b/c he/she has a need??

    Again, not trying to start a CIO debate here.  We all know how well those go over here LOL!!

  • My mom owns a private daycare and preschool center and I worked there every summer throughout  my high school and college career, and yes, there are times when a baby has to fuss.  I use the term fuss because they are never let a baby cry on purpose or CIO, but when you are taking care of three or four babies, there are times when you can't get to a baby as quickly as you would like and they have to fuss/cry a bit. 

    Now, letting a child cry it out in his/her crib because you want them to go to sleep, is ridiculous and an entirely different subject.

  • imageKearsta:
    My mom owns a private daycare and preschool center and I worked there every summer throughout  my high school and college career, and yes, there are times when a baby has to fuss.  I use the term fuss because they are never let a baby cry on purpose or CIO, but when you are taking care of three or four babies, there are times when you can't get to a baby as quickly as you would like and they have to fuss/cry a bit.  Now, letting a child cry it out in his/her crib because you want them to go to sleep, is ridiculous and an entirely different subject.

    I like how you put this, Kearsta.  I guess that's a good point.

  • legally speaking, daycare centers cannot allow a child to cry for more than 3 minutes unattended.  that said, i have worked in daycare and sometimes the needs of one baby have to wait so another can be attended to.  but you do what you can do and in most cases they certainly aren't neglected!!
  • There are crying babies at my daycare if the cgivers are too busy and can't get to them, but #1 They never let a baby cry in a crib on purpose and #2 They always get to the crying bay as soon as possible and will get a caregiver from another room to help if necessary.
  • Depends on the center...

    At the center my DS goes to the children are aged 3 mos - 18 mos so there is a nice mix of ages in the room which allows the teachers to quickly attend to anyone who is crying.  The older babies cry less so they can usually get to a crying child very quickly.  Does my DS cry from time to time, sure, but he is always attended to within two or three minutes, which is not CIO.

    I did visit another daycare where all the babies were 6 mos old or less and there were at least 2 kids crying all the time.  Kids would sometimes cry for 10-20 minutes before someone got to them.   Their ratio was 1:4 (it's 1:3 at DS' center) which I thought wasn't enough given how young all the babies were.  Still, this isn't CIO.

  • CIO to me means making a concious decision to not tend to the crying baby. 
  • Ditto on the getting caregivers from another room. This is the primary reason why I went with a center instead of in home daycare. (One of my good friends is also the assistant director of the daycare that DS goes to, so that helps!) There are always a few people that can run to another room to help out.
  • imageblondie3379:
    Phan, I agree. But, when you leave a baby unattended while you tend to another one, wouldn't you consider that CIO?? I would. I mean, isn't that baby crying b/c he/she has a need??

    Again, not trying to start a CIO debate here.  We all know how well those go over here LOL!!

    no, i don't consider that CIO at all.  sometimes DS has to cry until i can get to him, but it's never long & i always do my best to calm him/talk to him/whatever until i can physically get to him to pick it up.  IMO, CIO is ignoring the baby because you want your way.

    and i respectfully have to call BS on you not wanting to start a CIO debate.  if you didn't, you would have phrased this question much, MUCH differently.

  • imagephanatic:
    imageblondie3379:
    Phan, I agree. But, when you leave a baby unattended while you tend to another one, wouldn't you consider that CIO?? I would. I mean, isn't that baby crying b/c he/she has a need??

    Again, not trying to start a CIO debate here.  We all know how well those go over here LOL!!

    no, i don't consider that CIO at all.  sometimes DS has to cry until i can get to him, but it's never long & i always do my best to calm him/talk to him/whatever until i can physically get to him to pick it up.  IMO, CIO is ignoring the baby because you want your way.

    and i respectfully have to call BS on you not wanting to start a CIO debate.  if you didn't, you would have phrased this question much, MUCH differently.

     

    That's fine Phan. But, you are wrong.  Stick out tongue

  • what am i wrong about?  letting my kid fuss a little because i'm up to my elbows in dish water or that you would have worded this differently if you didn't want to start a debate?
  • CIO is trying to teach them something. Sometimes babies cry and you can't tend to them immediately. I have 3 very young kids. I can't possibly make them all happy all the time, and I am very anti CIO.
  • Blondie _ WTF is the point of this post? Let me guess your DC doesn't go to daycare.
  • imagephanatic:
    what am i wrong about?  letting my kid fuss a little because i'm up to my elbows in dish water or that you would have worded this differently if you didn't want to start a debate?

    Wrong about the debate. I was curious to hear what others definitions of daycare-setting crying were. 

    That's all.  Charlie is going in 2.5 weeks.  And I wanted to hear opinions. 

     

     

  • imageLibramom2b:
    Blondie _ WTF is the point of this post? Let me guess your DC doesn't go to daycare.

    Dude. Settle down.

  • This has been very much on my mind the last couple of days. I had to go to day care the other day to nurse DD (a whole 'nother issue). While I was there, there was a crying baby in a crib. One teacher was feeding a baby and the other was changing a baby. It felt like an eternity before the teacher changing the baby was able to go get the crying baby. In reality, it might've been two minutes. And both teachers were talking to the crying baby, letting him know they were there, etc. Also, one of the assistant directors came in at one point, but the situation was handled by then.

    I worried because I realize that at some point, the crying baby must be my baby. But given all of the options I have, I still feel that this day care center is the best option for my baby. And I think they do everything they possibly can to comfort a crying baby as quickly as possible. Let's face it: anybody who has to take care of more than one baby at a time is going to have to face this at some point. Even if it were me and I had another baby or something.

    It's hearing the voices that someone's coming, and being attended to as quickly as possible. That's definitely not CIO.

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  • whoa libramom, what the crap, i would say it's a pretty genuine question, defensive much?
  • imagegoodhartedmommy:
    CIO is trying to teach them something. Sometimes babies cry and you can't tend to them immediately. I have 3 very young kids. I can't possibly make them all happy all the time, and I am very anti CIO.

     

    Ditto. and HELLO GHM!! Nice to see you on here since I never get to Parenting anymore...lol

    CIO is intentionally leaving a baby to cry so that they learn how to self soothe. 

    Not every time that a baby cries is it CIO. 

    I'm about as anti-CIO as you can get, but like GHM, I sometimes have to tend to Evan or Abby while the other is upset. It's just a fact of life, but nothing that I'm doing deliberately to "teach" either of them anything.

  • Whoa - I'm not being defensive, I really would like to know the point of this post. The OP obviously wasn't truly wanting to know people's thoughts or she wouldn't have said "...what do you think happens?? What are they supposed to do??" as if she already knows. Come on - This isn't a true inquiry post.
  • not starting a CIO debate...epic FAIL. 
  • imageLibramom2b:
    Blondie _ WTF is the point of this post? Let me guess your DC doesn't go to daycare.

    What is the point of half the posts on this board?  People post whatever they want.  It's the nature of the beast.  Calm down.

  • I love it how 3 people tell me to calm down b/c i used the phrase "WTF". I mean I am BIG TIME worked up over this thread Angry
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