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Is it ever okay for a man to hit a woman, even if she hit him first?

Re: Is it ever okay for a man to hit a woman, even if she hit him first?

  • Of course this happened in the Land of Cleve.  Ha.
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  • imageWine O Mite:
    Of course this happened in the Land of Cleve.  Ha.

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  • I watched that video and I kept thinking that girl needs to be punched...then he decked her HARD. Wow...don't know if that was necessary. Maybe he just have kicked her off the bus and left her A$$ on side of the road. She needed something to wake her up though...one word comes to mind, BULLY!

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  • imageWine O Mite:
    Of course this happened in the Land of Cleve.  Ha.

    Don't be picking on Cleveland Stick out tongue

    If my DH ever gets a really big promotion we will have to move to Cleveland.  Some of Cleveland is actually really nice and there is a ton of kid friendly things to do. 

    Although the GPS did get me and Zack lost due to construction and there are also some not so nice parts

    The faux Cleveland tourism vidoes on YouTube are hysterical.

  • That is a really hard punch.  Holy crap. 

  • Nope.  I don't think it's ever acceptable to hit someone smaller and weaker than you.  In this case he should have just removed her from the bus and been done.  Did she deserve to be punched in the face - yes, but he shouldn't have been the one to do it.
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    imageWine O Mite:
    Of course this happened in the Land of Cleve.  Ha.

    Don't be picking on Cleveland Stick out tongue

    If my DH ever gets a really big promotion we will have to move to Cleveland.  Some of Cleveland is actually really nice and there is a ton of kid friendly things to do. 

    Although the GPS did get me and Zack lost due to construction and there are also some not so nice parts

    The faux Cleveland tourism vidoes on YouTube are hysterical.

    These are 2 of the funniest 5 things I've ever seen on the Internet. I've never even been to Ohio, but that shiit is hilarious. 

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  • Maybe this should be my FFFC - but yes, sometimes I think it's acceptable for a man to hit a woman.  It's sometimes acceptable for a woman to hit a man. 

    This is not one of those times. 

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  • Is it really bad that I laughed while watching this video?  I don't think it's ok for anyone to hit another person.  Man or woman.  I also don't think it's ok to act like complete trash on the bus either.
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  • imageKJmashup:
    imageNY Mama:

    imageWine O Mite:
    Of course this happened in the Land of Cleve.  Ha.

    Don't be picking on Cleveland Stick out tongue

    If my DH ever gets a really big promotion we will have to move to Cleveland.  Some of Cleveland is actually really nice and there is a ton of kid friendly things to do. 

    Although the GPS did get me and Zack lost due to construction and there are also some not so nice parts

    The faux Cleveland tourism vidoes on YouTube are hysterical.

    These are 2 of the funniest 5 things I've ever seen on the Internet. I've never even been to Ohio, but that shiit is hilarious. 

    My friends in Cleveland say they are fairly accurate.  We always sing the lyrics back and forth when we talk to them.

  • She wasn't a teen...she was 25 years old...old enough to have respect for someone who is driving you around. She hit him...thats what pushed him over the edge.

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  • imagegwinnygirl:
    Whoa, that uppercut was, just whoa - But she didn't hit him first. Does he have to wait until she accosts him? I don't know, I think the punch was out of line, but he probably sees it as preemptively defending himself. I do think he could have removed her from the bus without the punch if he felt he was in danger of an altercation.
    I heard about this on the radio and apparently, she spat on him. Which is 100 times worse than a punch in the face.

    He still shouldn't have hit her, though. She's a child. A grown asss man shouldn't be uppercutting a girl.

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  • imageNY Mama:

    imageWine O Mite:
    Of course this happened in the Land of Cleve.  Ha.

    Don't be picking on Cleveland Stick out tongue

    If my DH ever gets a really big promotion we will have to move to Cleveland.  Some of Cleveland is actually really nice and there is a ton of kid friendly things to do. 

    Although the GPS did get me and Zack lost due to construction and there are also some not so nice parts

    The faux Cleveland tourism vidoes on YouTube are hysterical.

    I wasn't really making fun of it...I'm a born and bred Clevelander.  I still consider it my home.  My family is still there.

    Mike Polk is hilarious.  I love his Fans Reaction to a Cleveland Browns Loss video as well.  "YOU ARE A FACTORY OF SADNESS!"

     

  • I don't care if she is 25, he still shouldn't have hit her like that.
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    imagegwinnygirl:
    Whoa, that uppercut was, just whoa - But she didn't hit him first. Does he have to wait until she accosts him? I don't know, I think the punch was out of line, but he probably sees it as preemptively defending himself. I do think he could have removed her from the bus without the punch if he felt he was in danger of an altercation.
    I heard about this on the radio and apparently, she spat on him. Which is 100 times worse than a punch in the face.

    He still shouldn't have hit her, though. She's a child. A grown asss man shouldn't be uppercutting a girl.

    I found in another article she wasn't a "teen" as described. She was 25 years old.

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    imagegwinnygirl:
    Whoa, that uppercut was, just whoa - But she didn't hit him first. Does he have to wait until she accosts him? I don't know, I think the punch was out of line, but he probably sees it as preemptively defending himself. I do think he could have removed her from the bus without the punch if he felt he was in danger of an altercation.
    I heard about this on the radio and apparently, she spat on him. Which is 100 times worse than a punch in the face.

    He still shouldn't have hit her, though. She's a child. A grown asss man shouldn't be uppercutting a girl.

    Agree. 

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  • imageLibby1978:
    Is it really bad that I laughed while watching this video?  I don't think it's ok for anyone to hit another person.  Man or woman.  I also don't think it's ok to act like complete trash on the bus either.

    I laughed too.  "You goin' to jail bitz, you goin' to jail". 

    Sad thing is that I'm sure her whole life is like this. 

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  • I don't really feel bad for this girl.  She was harrassing that dude and she spat on him.  She got punched. 

    Sucks to be her. 

    ETA:  This is in direct contrast to my previous statement, but upon watching the video again I realized that she was being the jerk in this situation.  The guy could've not punched her, but FFS this girl should NOT be let off the hook for her part in this. 

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    imageMissNikki007:

    imagegwinnygirl:
    Whoa, that uppercut was, just whoa - But she didn't hit him first. Does he have to wait until she accosts him? I don't know, I think the punch was out of line, but he probably sees it as preemptively defending himself. I do think he could have removed her from the bus without the punch if he felt he was in danger of an altercation.
    I heard about this on the radio and apparently, she spat on him. Which is 100 times worse than a punch in the face.

    He still shouldn't have hit her, though. She's a child. A grown asss man shouldn't be uppercutting a girl.

    I found in another article she wasn't a "teen" as described. She was 25 years old.

    Not intended to be snarky but, do you think that level of physical violence was justified then?

    Not at all...read my first response. I was just stating that she wasn't a teen. She was old enough to know better than to be disrespectful. I don't think she deserved to be hit...kicked off the bus, yes.

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  • Sorry I got all Cleveland sidetracked.

    I do not think that hit was justified at all.  I see WAY worse crap happen on the CTA and those bus drivers handle it well better than that guy.

     

  • imageFezzesAreCool:

    I don't really feel bad for this girl.  She was harrassing that dude and she spat on him.  She got punched. 

    Sucks to be her. 

    Yeah.  This.  I will shed no tears for her.  She seems like a little nightmare.

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  • I think if a woman puts her hands on a man first, the man has the right to defend himself.

    I don't feel pity for a woman who spit on a man and punched him that she got decked. Not in the slightest.

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    Also, he should have ignored her sh?t-talking.

    Yes. 

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  • Daaaamn smokey, you got knocked the fffvck out!

    He should NOT have "moral combated" her asss lol, as another poster called it.

    I do see how it would be hard to almost impossible to ignore her. Not sure she would've listened if he told her, "get off the bus"

    It's a tough situation....
  • imageFezzesAreCool:

    I don't really feel bad for this girl.  She was harrassing that dude and she spat on him.  She got punched. 

    Sucks to be her. 

    ETA:  This is in direct contrast to my previous statement, but upon watching the video again I realized that she was being the jerk in this situation.  The guy could've not punched her, but FFS this girl should NOT be let off the hook for her part in this. 

    Honestly I'm with Fezzes on this one.  I get that it's not popular and yeah he could have handled it 10 different ways better than he did.  Most likely he will loose his job over it. Which he should it was a dumb impulsive move.  But honestly if someone spit on you after berating you like that what would your reaction be? 

    I've met more than a few women who think they can get away with hitting, spitting, screaming and it's ok because "He damned well better not hit me back."  If we turned a hitting situation (man hitting a woman first) around I wonder how many people here would be as bothered at the other person (the woman) striking back. Because it's a woman we get up in arms.  Yeah it's harsh but the moral of the story here really is don't start a fight you can't win. 

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  • imageBostonKisses2:

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    He couldn't just escort her off of the bus without punching her. Hope he gets sued and fired.

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    I wouldn't argue for him to keep his job, fine fire him, but I don't agree with being sued. People need to learn to take a little responsibility... That chick was WAY out if line.

    Would we feel different if a woman driver was being harassed, spit on then finally snapped at punch a chick or kicked a dude in the nuts?
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    imageFezzesAreCool:
    I don't really feel bad for this girl.nbsp; She was harrassing that dude and she spat on him.nbsp; She got punched.nbsp; Sucks to be her.nbsp; ETA:nbsp; This is in direct contrast to my previous statement, but upon watching the video again I realized that she was being the jerk in this situation.nbsp; The guy could've not punched her, but FFS this girl should NOT be let off the hook for her part in this.nbsp;
    Let off the hook? No. Punched in the face? No. I'm not hosting a candlelight vigil in her honor or anything.

    A whole lot of people were saying "He should've just kicked her off the bus."  That, IMHO, is letting her off the hook for her behavior.  

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  • Sorry, but if someone verbally harasses me and spits on me, they better believe they are getting their ass whuped. 

    Taking the "high road" is not always the best option. 

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    1. What did she say right before the hit that pushed him over the edge?

    2. It sounded to me like he was talking just as much trash to her, no?

    3. That was way out of line IMO.

    4. No, I don't ever think it's ok for a man to hit a woman (especially a teen girl). Restrain, sure. Full on punch or smack? Nope. But she isn't right for hitting him, either. You don't put your hands on another person either way.

     

    Yea on those top two bolded. I can't really tell what is going on in that video.   

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  • Sometimes people just need to realize that their behavior could have horrible consequences. 

    Someone upthread said that there are women in this world who think they can do anything and not be held accountable because "no man would ever hit me". 

    That's a bullshiit way of thinking.

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  • Bus driver could have just slammed on his brakes and sent her flying.  If you want to hurt someone who is pissing you off at least be smarter about it.

     

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  • Both of them behaved poorly and are wrong. 
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  • Restrain and subdue. Never hit.
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  • I agree that if this was posted with the gender roles switched the reponses would have been "hell yeah, get his ass" "that is what he gets for messing with a women"..etc.

    I also agree there is a difference between a man hitting a women (25) and a kid (5) who is acting this way. While I am not all "get her ass for she deserves it" I can't find myself standing behind saying that this guy is totally wrong. Sometimes you're defensive instinct kicks in and you must protect yourself. Even if he is bigger we can't assume he isn't scared. He reacted like a human. I don't blame him.

     

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  • Whoa that's one helluva upper cut. It would be just as wrong if it was a guy. I'm not offended because she was a girl. If a girl wants to fight with a guy, they should have at it.

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  • imageThePolishHammer:
    Both of them behaved poorly and are wrong. 

    Yes 

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  • I wish the video hadn't been yanked, it makes it hard to have a solid thought. But based on what has been said here, I will say this:

    Don't start $hit and it won't be $hit. 

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