Babies: 3 - 6 Months

CIO/sleep training

For moms who are sleep training or letting their LO cio, how long is long enough to where you feel you need to intervene? I know you keep checking on them and try to soothe them before you leave the room again but how long until you feel like they have tried long enough to put themselves to sleep? Also if they do fall asleep but then wake up only a few minutes later do you let them cry again and start the process all over? TIA

Re: CIO/sleep training

  • So far, I can only last about five minutes before I'm compelled to comfort him, and that's with him just "fussing," not scream-crying in desperation. If I were to let him scream-cry, it would only get worse and he would cry so hard he wouldn't be able to breathe... I can't do that to my baby.
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  • I intervene based on the type of cry, not the length. there is a whining tired cry, a screaming hunger cry, and the full wailing i'm going to die cry. 
  • My LO cannot put himself to sleep, does not nap long at all, and ontop of that only sleeps 3.5hr stretches at night. He just turned 4months old and I am thinking sleep training might have to be a reality for us. Also, a big reason why I am okay with cio is because he has to cry himself to sleep on me for every nap anyway. I have tried bouncing, rocking, swaying, the carrier, car ride, everything! He has to cry and i will spend an hour trying to get him to sleep and then he only sleeps for 20 min! I know sleep training is usually for LO's 5 mo and older, we have his pediatrician appt this week and I am going to speak with her about all this but I have a feeling she will tell us to let him cry b/c she told us this last month when I told her I rocked him to sleep..she wasn't happy with me and probably will scold me even more when she finds out I still do it lol
  • My DD cries herself to sleep everytime she falls asleep and it doesn't matter if she is alone in her crib or I am rocking/holding her. Some babies just fight sleep. My mom said that I was worse than my DD and would actually push against her screaming and crying before I would fall asleep. My dr said that babies are very uncomfortable with the feeling of sleepiness and that is why they tend to be fussy at night time. Maybe some baies are just more uncomfortable with the sleepy feeling than others?
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  • imagetemporalrobe:
    I intervene based on the type of cry, not the length. there is a whining tired cry, a screaming hunger cry, and the full wailing i'm going to die cry. 

    this for me too...

    it all depends on the cry...  

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  • Oh wow good to know jjt did not know that! it makes sense though. My LO is the same with crying on me so that is why like I said I am okay with cio but I just don't know when to intervene. The times when I think I should my dh will say 5 more min and then bam he will fall asleep . I have only tried it a couple times so still feeling it out.
  • imagetemporalrobe:
    I intervene based on the type of cry, not the length. there is a whining tired cry, a screaming hunger cry, and the full wailing i'm going to die cry. 

     

    LO is 4 month old and this is what we do. I go in when he gets really upset and it turns to real crying. If he is just fussing I let him fuss in hopes that he learns to put himself to sleep eventually. It works sometimes.

  • Both of my boys also had to fuss it out to fall asleep. Nothing I could do to intervene in that process once they got to 4 months old or so. My oldest is a champ sleeper and always had been. As a baby he always had to get the grumpies out before bed.

     

    In your situation I would totally let him fuss. Also I find when I go back in if I can avoid picking him up out of the crib it normally goes better. Picking him up resets the process. Sometimes I just go in and patt his butt to soothe him.

  • We did not do cio intentionally, but we did, and now I know how long she will cry before I have to intervene. Same as others have said, there's fussing and there's crying. She will fuss from 2-5 minutes before she falls asleep, if I just put her down. If she gets to 10 minutes and still fussing, she will not go to sleep. If she's all out crying, there's a reason, and I will go to her right away.
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  • First, you might want to read some literature on what type of sleep training you want to do; there are tons.  They will walk you through most of your questions.  We did SleepEasy Solution.  Lo cried 28 minutes the first night and 43 the first nap; but he was able to put himself back to sleep right away. If he's doing his fussy cry, I let him be; but if he's doing his in pain or need something cry, I get him. He still fusses for about 2 minutes before sleeping, but now he sleeps on average about 10 hours. 

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    First, you might want to read some literature on what type of sleep training you want to do; there are tons.nbsp; They will walk you through most of your questions.nbsp; We did SleepEasy Solution.nbsp; Lo cried 28 minutes the first night and 43 the first nap; but he was able to put himself back to sleep right away. If he's doing his fussy cry, I let him be; but if he's doing his in pain or need something cry, I get him. He still fusses for about 2 minutes before sleeping, but now he sleeps on average about 10 hours.nbsp;


    Yes I am going to speak with my paediatrician and see what she recommends
  • I would highly recommend the Ferber method.  It is a modified CIO method.  We did this at 5 1/2 months with my son and it is fantastic.  He gets his pajama's on and we read a story and in his crib he goes with his paci and blanket, and we shut the door.  He talks to himself for awhile, sometimes fusses a bit, but goes to sleep on his own every night.  Same for naps.  It took a few days when we started, but we let him cry for 5 minutes - went in and checked, then 10 minutes the next time, 15 minutes the next time.  I started timing each segment of time when he actually started crying, not just talking/babbling to himself.  It was really hard for those first few days, but there is no harm to him.  He sleeps much better now, and so do we!  He goes to bed by 7 PM every night and gets up between 6 and 6;30 AM.  Good luck!
  • Thank you!
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