August 2012 Moms

....and, have we talked about spanking before?

subject: ....and, have we talked about spanking before?

as long as i brought back chik fil A, let's complete our board flashbacks and also talk about spanking....

holy guacamole, have you seen this?

https://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/us/2012/09/19/dnt-tx-mom-upset-over-paddling.ktrk

 this video blows my mind on so many levels.

a.) this appears to be a public school.  i CANNOT believe that there are public schools in our country that still do this.  it's so far from my own reality that i really and truly have trouble comprehending it.

b.)   what i thought was the most crazy thing was the reaction of the people interviewed as well as the police report findings.  no one saw anything wrong with this.  we definitely have ladies on this board who were raised in this type of environment and, as a result, see nothing wrong with it.  many, many people come out of the spanking/paddling environment without emotional scars.  it DOES speak to the fact that my reality (or yours) is not necessarily THE reality.  there are many people that come out of these areas without being emotionally damaged by this stuff. 

crazy.  it's just crazy.

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Re: ....and, have we talked about spanking before?

  • I spank and I believe it works. That said I would not approve of school paddling my kids. I wouldn't let a stranger spank my kids, only the people I would trust to keep my kids like my parents and inlaws, etc. I don't look down on those that don't spank but I have looked at a child's behavior and said "that kid needs their butt torn up". This is something many, many people do/say where I am from so its not like I'm just being a holierthanthou tail.
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  • As someone who believes that spanking when done properly can work, I think this is outrageous. I would never let someone else lay a hand on my kid. Endofstory. If they did there would be hell to pay. It is my choice how things are handled and if spanking is necessary.

    When I was growing up my mom always signed the consent form for corporal punishment. I think getting 3 zeroes is not a reason to use corporal punishment for a school. To me that sounds stupid. Let a parent deal with it. Not the school. This is beyond a line, and I am surprised that after the school's investigation that they have decided not to take any further action.

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  • I am ok with spanking as a final resort... and I absolutely don't think all kids "need" to be spanked. Every child is different so every discipline plan should be different. I do know that when we (my sisters and I) were in elementary school, the principal would call my mom to come to the school to spank my little sister, and once or twice called my grandpa to come to the school to spank her. I do NOT think that would be ok.
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  • I think "that's how I was raised and I turned out ok" is the effing stupidest argument for any tactics used with a child so those people interviewed are morons.

    I don't think spanking is effective but I guess if you think it does, go ahead. I would never be able to spank another person's child. I don't know what I would do if I worked at a school that implemented this.
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  • Growing up my schools still had what they called "licks"- basically a spanking with a wooden rod. It was the parents choice to sign the consent form for a child to get "licks" at school. Mine did not thankfully.
  • imageks3pink:
    I spank and I believe it works. That said I would not approve of school paddling my kids. I wouldn't let a stranger spank my kids, only the people I would trust to keep my kids like my parents and inlaws, etc. I don't look down on those that don't spank but I have looked at a child's behavior and said "that kid needs their butt torn up". This is something many, many people do/say where I am from so its not like I'm just being a holierthanthou tail.


    I completely agree with everything you have said. I grew up getting spanked all the way up until I was probably 10 and then beyond that it was being grounded. It was the way i was raised to get spanked when you were out of line or miss behaving and i believe it set a good disciplinary example for our household. Even though my parents signed the consent for us to get pops at school, I don't agree with that. I don't want a stranger spanking my children and I wouldn't spank a strangers child.

    With that being said, I do not look down on people who do not spank or think they are less of a parent. It's a personal choice and preference.
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  • What do you think spanking accomplishes? How does hitting your child, causing them pain, help you teach them right from wrong? All it does is foster fear and distrust. 
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  • I'll spank, but not for behavioral issues. If DS rips his hand out of mine and dashes across a parking lot, he's getting a good smack on the leg. It'll hurt a lot less than being hit by a car. But for issues with behavior (talking back, not being nice to friends, etc) I don't believe those kinds of things can be corrected with a spanking. 
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  • imagesourapplemartini:
    What do you think spanking accomplishes? How does hitting your child, causing them pain, help you teach them right from wrong? All it does is foster fear and distrust.nbsp;


    I disagree with this statement. I never felt fear or distrust from my parents at all and they whipped me. I was never scared of them and I trusted my parents more than I trusted anyone in my life and still do. Now they whipped us when we were out of line, not just because. I think the fear and distrust would be more along the lines of a parent who abuses the act of spanking. I can then see how a child would have fear and distrust for their parents if they were just spanking the crap out of them for every little thing.

    ETA: once again I dont look down on people who dont spank. This is obviously a personal preference so people are going to disagree on this topic.
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  • How are you going to explain to a toddler that it's not OK to hit when you spank them? 
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  • I agree with sourapplemartini. I was spanked growing up and all I remember about it was praying in my room to God that my mom or stepdad would forget. I also remember stuffing washcloths down the back of my pants to soften the blow. Neither of them hit me hard enough to leave a mark, but it still hurt. I don't want my son to feel like that, ever. While it's my job to discipline him, it's my job to keep him safe as well. I don't believe that smacking your kids or "tearing their butt up" as ks3 puts it is acceptable. There are better and more effective ways to discipline your children than using violence (because whether you want to admit it or not, that's what hitting, smacking, whatever you choose to coin it as, is).
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  • I admit, I've lost my cool before and have "smacked" my son once. It will take one look of fear in your child's eye before you change your mind about spanking.

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  • imageanbeck4:
    I don't believe that smacking your kids or "tearing their butt up" as ks3 puts it is acceptable.


    In quoting ks3, I was agreeing with the topic of being spanked and that she wouldn't let a stranger touch her children. I don't want anyone to think I condone "tearing" up their children's butt. That's not the message I was wanting to come across. Just wanted to clear that up since I quoted her OP.

    And sourapple, I am a FTM so I've never had a child of my own to spank. I am just speaking from what I knew growing up and what My personal opinion is. Could this change? Maybe, who knows, ive never done this before. Me and DH agree for now and thats all that matters. I still have a ways before I get THAT frustrated with my LO to where I would want to pop him. Hopefully!
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