Toddlers: 12 - 24 Months

What can I tell her?

My DH has a family member who has a 11 mo LO.  She turned his carseat around this week so that he's forward facing.  She's said before that it's a "rite of passage" when he turns 1.  Not sure why she moved it up to 11 months.  She has a 4 year old and did the same thing.

I'm pretty militant about my DS, 16 mo, staying rear facing for as long as possible despite the fact that he is 99th percentile for height.  This mama is militant about, well, everything.  She is right and you either agree or you're wrong. I know this isn't my child, so I can't dictate anything, but it scares me. I know the stats and have read about all the bad things that can happen to kids who FF too early in an accident.

I want to figure out what to say to her, if anything.  She will probably be say "I can't believe J is still rear facing!"  I actually hope she does, because I need some kind of opening if I say something.  Hoping her pedi says something at the 12 month appointment.

 

Re: What can I tell her?

  • How do you know she did this? Did she announce it on Facebook?? Maybe just pst a link to oe of those videos about rear/forward facing on her wall.
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  • No, she didn't announce it on FB.  I saw it in her van.

  • A friend of mine saw my daughter in her rear facing seat recently and since she just turned one my friend said "Oh, time to turn that seat around." I told her that our pediatrician said to keep her rear facing until two and my friend told me "oh, no, if they've doubled their weight you can turn them around." I just replied with "oh, really?" and left it at that. I don't plan on changing my daughters seat. If my friend brings it up again I think I'd just say I try to follow what our pediatrician recommends. Her daughter is three now so there is no point in me trying to sway her opinion. If an opportunity arises to say something maybe approaching it from what your pediatrician told you would be the best route to take? Then you're not seeming judgmental, just concerned based on what you have been told?
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  • Eh, I don't think it's any of your business, to be honest.  I would stay out of it.  I bet there's something that you do that she doesn't agree with either.  Is her baby over the weight limit?  If it's a big baby and he hates sitting backwards, then maybe she has a good reason to switch the seat.  My kids have never minded riding backwards, so we made them sit that way until they were over 2 years old (my kids are also on the small side), but what other people do with their kids is their call.  And really, what are the odds that they'll get in a really bad car accident, bad enough for RFing to matter, in the next few weeks?

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  • Is it legal to FF at 11 months where you live? Here you have to be at least a year AND 20 or more lbs. If it's not legal, I would say something about that. If it is, I probably wouldn't say anything. It would annoy me and I would really want to say something, but I wouldn't (though I do think if she asks why your DS is RF,  you can definitely tell her all the pros). 
  • I would find a link that talks about the safety of rear vs. forward facing and tell her that your pedi gave it to you at the last appointment.  Mention that you weren't sure if she'd be interested in reading it and then you have to leave it alone, honestly.  I disagree with the person who said it's none of your business.  Of course if what's she'd doing is legal, there's nothing you can really say or do.  But as family you're supposed to watch out for each other.  And sharing information is the only way anyone learns ANYTHING.
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  • Unfortunately misinformed parents are par for the course.  My sister turned her daughter around shortly after a year stating that "her car seat is one that is safety rated for turning at that age"  I didn't say anything though it does bother me that my niece is in harms way.
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  • I forward faced DD at 12 months....I don't see the big deal.  It's personal choice.  IMO  I wouldn't say anything.  If someone said that to me I would b!tch slap them.  imagine if someone said something to you in a negative way about still rear facing?
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  • It's noyb, but if she brings up your RF LO, just mention the stats. My (social worker) friend turned her LO FF at 11 months because he was whiny. She should know best practices. This was last year. DD is still RF and it recently came up in conversation and I didn't say anything about what she did, I just said the new recommendation is 2 years and they say it reduces injuries 75%. She went on to explain what she did, but I in no way said anything about that.

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  • In most states it's not a law it's a recommendation to stay RF until 2 years old. 

    Also if your child is so tall I would check your carseat manual and make sure that it's still ok to have him rearfacing for his height. 

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  • If someone said something to me about keeping DS RFing as long as possible, at least I would know that I was doing everything I could to keep him safe in a crash. "The big deal" is that their neck can snap in certain types of accidents if they are FFing - their head goes forward, but their body stays secured by the car seat, and their skull separates from their spine. It's called internal decapitation. To me, that's a REALLY big deal.

    I'm a good driver. I never had a car accident. I never thought it would happen to me.

    And then I had a terrible one when DS was three months old. If he hadn't been properly secured, he would have been killed.

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    I forward faced DD at 12 months....I don't see the big deal.  It's personal choice.  IMO  I wouldn't say anything.  If someone said that to me I would b!tch slap them.  imagine if someone said something to you in a negative way about still rear facing?

    I did this too.  Both of my kids.  I have done the research, I have talked to my cousin (who is a police officer and is Car Seat Certified as the car seat safety inspector in his township) who turned all three of his children at 1, my pedi didn't say that either way was wrong or right when asked.  Every other month, I travel a 5.5 hour trip with my kids, alone, and my child HATES being rear facing.  It was a matter of my sanity and being able to concentrate and get us to our destination safely without having to pull over after every 15 minutes of pure screaming.  I would much rather have her forward facing and travel happily then to pull over - me and my two daughters - in an unknown area because I had to hop in the back to calm her down.  NO WAY.  I tried switching it back once I returned home and she wasn't having it.  I appreciate everyone's concern, but if anyone was to blatantly point the fact out to me, they would get an earful.  It isn't ignorance on my part, it is what works best for us and my LO.  Now that the AAP has come out recommending that all boys get circumcised, when are people going to start telling people that they shouldn't do it?!?  

    My opinion is keep it to yourself.  I don't understand why everyone feels the need to tell other people.  If people choose to be informed about things, they will do so on their own accord. 

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    I forward faced DD at 12 months....I don't see the big deal.  It's personal choice.  IMO  I wouldn't say anything.  If someone said that to me I would b!tch slap them.  imagine if someone said something to you in a negative way about still rear facing?

    I did this too.  Both of my kids.  I have done the research, I have talked to my cousin (who is a police officer and is Car Seat Certified as the car seat safety inspector in his township) who turned all three of his children at 1, my pedi didn't say that either way was wrong or right when asked. 

     

    In all of my "travels" both online and in person I've not heard of a single CPST who would forward face their own child at age 1 or recommend it to others. I'm pretty shocked that one would, actually, it's pretty awful advice for a supposed car seat expert. 

    Quite honestly, I was kinda shocked that this was his response to me also.  I went to him to ask him his advice not only in his capacity as a tech, but as a police officer/EMT who has witnessed a countless number of car accidents and personal experience since he does have three children.  I know if it was anyone else (i.e., not related) he would give them the recommendation

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  • Honestly, I wouldn't say anything to her.  It's not really your business.  If she asks questions about why your child is still RF, then I'd back up your choice with info. I'd keep quiet unless she asks your opinion. 
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  • you need to butt out.
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  • imagemrsseguin:
    Honestly, I wouldn't say anything to her.  It's not really your business.  If she asks questions about why your child is still RF, then I'd back up your choice with info. I'd keep quiet unless she asks your opinion. 

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  • I don't think it's any of your business and I would be offended if you said something to me.

     

  • imagevlagrl29:
    I forward faced DD at 12 months....I don't see the big deal.  It's personal choice.  IMO  I wouldn't say anything.  If someone said that to me I would b!tch slap them.  imagine if someone said something to you in a negative way about still rear facing?

    Hmmm...if someone said something to me about a totally uneducated and irresponsible decision that I was making that was endangering my child, I'd thank them, not slap them.

     

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  • imagesarabara13:
    A friend of mine saw my daughter in her rear facing seat recently and since she just turned one my friend said "Oh, time to turn that seat around." I told her that our pediatrician said to keep her rear facing until two and my friend told me "oh, no, if they've doubled their weight you can turn them around."

    Some babies are born at 5 lbs and less. So, if they're 10 lbs, they can be turned around? This is among the dumbest things I've ever heard.

    I'm kind of like you, though. Not confrontational. I cringe when I see car seats turned early, but I mind my own business.

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  • I turned my daughter's seat around because she can't sit in the next size car seat in our only car facing backwards. We have a small backseat and even a car seat inspector tried to make it fit in the backseat backwards said it was unsafe to face backwards in this car unless in an infant seat. 
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