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We need to start sleeping training NOW

carawesttcarawestt
in April 2012 Moms
but I am dreading it! We have to either rock Lincoln to sleep or he falls asleep nursing. Either way, we have to carry him and transfer him into his crib ever so gently so he doesn't wake up otherwise we have to start all over again. He goes to sleep between 7:30 and 8, sometimes he stays asleep until 12 but other times he's up after an hour and needs to be soothed again. But even if he does sleep 8-12, after that he's up every 2 hours on the dot until he's up for the day at 7. I am beyond exhausted! We had his well visit yesterday and our pedi said to try CIO while checking on him every 10 min, then 15, then 20 and so on but I don't know if I can/want to listen to him CIO. He can't self soothe AT ALL so crying turns into full on screams within a matter of minutes. I tried the no-cry sleep solution last night and he sucked on his fingers/talked for a few minutes then fell asleep but woke up after 20 minutes and started screaming. I don't know what to do but something has to give!!!
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Re: We need to start sleeping training NOW

  • JFH2010JFH2010 member
    Have you read Ferber? It's worth a read. Your pedi's suggested intervals would be too long for me. I think we did 3 minutes to the first check, then 5, then 10. It made a difference for us from the very first night. I would really recommend reading the book and understanding the system before launching into it. Good luck! I hope something works for you!
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  • charmediamsurecharmediamsure

    This is exactly how Jack was.  If he wasn't nursed into a deep sleep where his limbs were limp his eyes would snap open the minute I put him in the crib.  It was awful.

    The No-Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley worked/is working for us.  We started last Thursday---it took 80 minutes to get him to let me put him down drowsy, and last night exactly one week later it took 10 minutes and he smiled at me when I placed him in the crib, closed his eyes and went to sleep.  I couldn't have imagined anything would work for Jack, but we are living proof.

    It's a lot of work and a lot of repetition and whining at the beginning, but he falls asleep without tears and to me (and I am sure him as well) it is worth the time and effort.

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  • carawesttcarawestt

    imageJFH2010:
    Have you read Ferber? It's worth a read. Your pedi's suggested intervals would be too long for me. I think we did 3 minutes to the first check, then 5, then 10. It made a difference for us from the very first night. I would really recommend reading the book and understanding the system before launching into it. Good luck! I hope something works for you!

    I have heard of it but haven't read it. I will definitely look into though! Did you start using Ferber with bedtime or did you ease into with naps?

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  • charmediamsurecharmediamsure
    You just have to keep at it if he wakes up.  Eventually he will learn to self soothe but just be consistent.  It does take patience.  You were doing the Pull Off?  Also, try to start establishing key words.  The first 4 days were rough for us.
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  • carawesttcarawestt
    imagecharmediamsure:

    This is exactly how Jack was.  If he wasn't nursed into a deep sleep where his limbs were limp his eyes would snap open the minute I put him in the crib.  It was awful.

    The No-Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley worked/is working for us.  We started last Thursday---it took 80 minutes to get him to let me put him down drowsy, and last night exactly one week later it took 10 minutes and he smiled at me when I placed him in the crib, closed his eyes and went to sleep.  I couldn't have imagined anything would work for Jack, but we are living proof.

    It's a lot of work and a lot of repetition and whining at the beginning, but he falls asleep without tears and to me (and I am sure him as well) it is worth the time and effort.

    I'm so glad you found something that worked for you and Jack! When I read your post on it yesterday, I thought "this sounds great!" but I think the difficult thing about using Pantely method for us is that Lincoln will only nurse to sleep 20% of the time, the rest of the time he will continually pull off and cry until I rock him. I should also add that he fights sleep really bad! I know he's tired, he knows he's tired but when it come to bed/naps he whines even while I'm holding him. He calms down after a few minutes but it's just such an ordeal every single day. Lincoln also won't sleep flat on his back so I have to put him down directly onto his stomach, which sometimes startles him to sleep. He also flips to his back while he sleeps, then wakes up screaming cause he can't get comfortable.

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  • charmediamsurecharmediamsure

    Make sure he is getting good sleep in during the day, no matter what you have to do.  She says that if baby is well rested during the day he will be more receptive to changes at night.  So I'm still nursing Jack to sleep during the day and holding him for naps until I am sure our nights are under control.  By next Thursday if nights are still good I will start working on naps.

    You can still do the method with rocking.  Start trying to establish the key words (when he is calm and drowsy) and remember to put him down drowsy. not awake.  If Jack isn't drowsy he talks himself wide awake and I have to start over.

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  • R+JamzR+Jamz
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    imageJFH2010:
    Have you read Ferber? It's worth a read. Your pedi's suggested intervals would be too long for me. I think we did 3 minutes to the first check, then 5, then 10. It made a difference for us from the very first night. I would really recommend reading the book and understanding the system before launching into it. Good luck! I hope something works for you!

    I have heard of it but haven't read it. I will definitely look into though! Did you start using Ferber with bedtime or did you ease into with naps?

    I've read that whichever method you use, you should always start with nighttime. Apparently, according to Healthy Sleep Habits, different parts of the brain are in charge of nighttime sleep and naps and it's easier to train for night, and once they're well rested at night, it's easier for them to nap during the day. I've found this to be true with my LO.  

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  • MANDALYOUNG1MANDALYOUNG1
    I don't have any useful advice; I just thought I'd let you know you're not alone. We need to start asap and there's nothing I'm dreading more. I just finished reading The Sleepeasy Solution and we'll probably use it.
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  • BebeEtMoiBebeEtMoi
    I'm with you. My LO can't self-sooth either and it's maddening for her and I alike. Her naps have slowly started gettingg worse and worse too, it's rough! I'm going to wait until her 6 month appointment  to talk to her pedi about my plans and get her feedback. I've ordered the Sleep Easy Solution and Ferber books and will use whichever one feels best, since they seem to be very similar. Good luck in whatever you decide to do! It's a crappy ordeal but one that I hope will be worth it.
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  • JFH2010JFH2010 member
    imagecarawestt:

    imageJFH2010:
    Have you read Ferber? It's worth a read. Your pedi's suggested intervals would be too long for me. I think we did 3 minutes to the first check, then 5, then 10. It made a difference for us from the very first night. I would really recommend reading the book and understanding the system before launching into it. Good luck! I hope something works for you!

    I have heard of it but haven't read it. I will definitely look into though! Did you start using Ferber with bedtime or did you ease into with naps?



    We did it all at once, starting with bedtime the first night. It was much less traumatic than I expected for all of us.
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