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Our 2 Year Visit Happened (long rant)

I posted before about my upcoming meeting with BM and BF.  Abridged: We worried that BF, who never met his baby, would act poorly and ruin the visit.

 So we met at a playground and got set up by some picnic tables and they showed up a little late. BM was so excited to see DD! She's had several meetings with her so far, and every time they have a great time together. We had lunch and talk about her school and home life. BM used to have some boundary issues but she's doing much better now, and we keep in close contact.

BF has never met us before and he's never met DD. He was very uncomfortable about her. BM was thrilled at the news that DD is going to get a cochlear implant, but BF didn't look that interested. The whole visit he was kind of glasseyed and dazed. I don't know if he was intoxicated or if that's just the way he is, but he didn't seem interested. He was also very uncomfortable around DD, and kept shouting her name at her, like being louder would somehow make her less deaf. Then BM took DD to the playground to play, and we tried to ask BF some questions- what he's doing, if he's in school, how his newly-reestablished relationship with BM was going. Almost every answer was "I just do what I do."

Then he started asking us about DD. It started innocent enough- like how she got along with our other child, her favorite color... and we were happy to answer. Then he said she had a "white name" and complained that we didn't have her hair in braids (we take very good care of her hair and we choose to leave it natural). He said we were "whitewashing" his child.  Then he started to express his discomfort with our lifestyle. He asked which of us was the "dad" and we said we were both her mom. He started asking us about our sex life- which was the "man," what toys we used, if we'd ever tried it with a man- and we told him his comments were inappropriate. He said something along the lines of "well if you're going to live a different lifestyle

He asked how we're going to explain our gayness to DD when the Bible speaks against it. We told him we're not raising DD in a religious environment. This angered him, and he asked what our religion was. We said that any religion or lack thereof was inconsequential, because we're want DD to be free to make her own decisions when she's at the age she can comprehend the claims made forth by different religions (BM knew we were nonreligious before the adoption). He said that not raising her religious was making a decision for her. What? How does that even make sense? Then he said he didn't want his daughter in hell and said "Isn't it bad enough she's being raised by lesbians?" Thank goodness we didn't tell him we're vegetarians. He may have hit us.

We went and got DD, and told BM we were sorry and we would call her later to schedule another on. He started yelling that the visit wasn't over and that he has a right to see his daughter (his name isn't on the birth certificate, he didn't see her being born, and he told BM he didn't want anything to do with the baby). DD was screaming crying and BM was furious at BF for ruining the visit.

 We called BM this morning and have arranged to have lunch so she can finish her visit with DD and we can talk about what happened with BF.

In the mean time- phew! I am one tired puppy.

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  • Holy sh&%. I am so sorry you had to go through that. He sounds like a total piece of work. I would insist going forward that he not be a part until you know he is in a better place. If he is glossy eyed and has no self control there is no way he is clean. It is good to see that BM understood and didn't get caught up and defending him. Hopefully she will learn to run like hell and get out of that relationship.
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    Sorry. That sounds lousy. I was hoping it would go better than that for all of you. 

    We were too. We didn't expect the religious issues (though I should say I'm not too surprised, it happens surprisingly often) but I hate to say I was kind of expecting we'd have to bail out. It's such a shame because DD was having such a good time with BM, and vice versa. We're going to get them together again, but I don't know if we'll be seeing BF in the future.

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  • Holy smokes! I'm so sorry that happened! I sure hope he can see the error of his ways at some point and grow up so that everyone involved can be positively impacted instead. My goodness!
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  • I'm sorry the visit with her birthfather went so poorly.  That's so disappointing.  I'm glad that you are going to visit again with her birthmother soon and talk about what happened.  I would not want to be around him at this time, that's for sure.  I'm really sorry.
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  • Blech.... so sorry.

     

    The (only) upside is that he got his chance to share his concerns and negative views so hopefully that's done and over with.... you can get back to parenting in a positive manner and hope his views change or his interests wanes.

    Sorry :(

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  • I'm so sorry that the visit went that direction.   Uuurgh!
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  • Ugh. I'm so sorry that you and your family had to go through that.
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  • Wow that is crazy.  I was expecting you to post that it went better than you expected.  I can't believe that, but you seemed to handle it all very well!
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  • That sounds awful!! So sorry things didn't go well for your visit. 
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  • I'm so sorry.

    At least you know who you're dealing with now.

  • Whoa...I'm so sorry it was not a pleasant visit.
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  • Oh my goodness. I don't think I've ever been treated that poorly by another human being.  I'm so sorry you had to go through that and I give you props for handling it so well. I would be incredulous and livid. 

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  • WOW! I am soooo very sorry you had to go through that! It seemed like you handled it well, though. I don't know what I would have done. I hope you don't ever have to go through that again. 
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  • I'm so sorry to hear that. As someone just started out in this process- you've just articulated all the fears that I think both my partner and I have about adoption. It sounds like you and your partner handled this is such an elegant and terrific way.

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  • Wow!  I would have never made it through all of those comments.  So good for you for sticking it out that long.  And I am glad that it didn't happen in front of DD.  Sorry that it didn't go as you hoped.  So frustrating!
  • High 5 for you and your partner.  You handled that so well.  I would have definitely been more confrontational and inappropriate.  He sounds like a real a-hole.  Hopefully your daughter will be happy with the next meeting with her BM and this one will be forgotten.
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  • That you so much everyone for your support! It was really hard to hold back and not say what I wanted to say to him. I'm glad we went in with an exit plan, but it's still sh*tty how it went down.
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  • It just pisses me off that he was totally okay with letting a 16-year-old be a single parent, but lesbian atheists? That's suddenly unacceptable for him. Like he suddenly cares about her.
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  • He sounds really angry. My hope (tho probably just wishing) is that he was coping with his pain by lashing out at you, maybe?

    In any case, I hope he grows up, mans up and apologizes somehow. Your daughter deserves better than to have her parents belittled. Glad that you and BM have a good relationship tho! 

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  • So sorry you had to deal with that from BD.  Glad that BM was so positive. 
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  • I am so so sorry that he was so awful to you.  That is so over the line and I hate that you had go through that.  I'm glad that the BM will get to see DD again soon, it sounds like she at least understood why you were ending the visit and was upset with BF as well.

    Ugh, (( Hugs )) for all of you that really, really sucks and I'm so sorry what an awful experience.


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