I have a friend IRL who is also dealing with IF. She will be 42 this year and has done 2 failed IVF cycles (one cycle was cx due to lack of response)
She was planning to do a DE cycle and had her FSH level checked it was a 9...she had it check a year ago and it was a 20. Her RE said they should start a cycle with her OEs now. She has agreed and is very excited. Fwd to today, had brunch with some friends, one is an Ob/Gyn. I was telling her about my friend and she said once you have an elevated FSH, even if the numbers go down it doesnt matter. She did say that she could possibly still get pregnant but all her training says that she will not.
You guys know how hard a failed cycle is financially and even harder emotionally. Do I tell my friend what my dr friend said? I feel like if there is a chance it could work, who am I to say anything. I also feel like my Ob/Gyn, although a great Dr isnt a RE and if the RE of my IF friend didnt have a concern, who am I to say anything...I am FAR from being a dr of anything.
Thoughts?
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Scuba... I agree with you. I thought that if it were me, I would not want to know and might even feel resentful. I agree when you cycle you need all the positive thoughts. I just pray it does work for her...we all deserve to make it to the other side.
3 failed IVF with OE and 2 failed frozen DE cycles
Last fresh hail mary DE cycle starting Feb 2013
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4/28/11 IUI#1 = BFP!(5/25), EDD 2/2/12 - m/c 5w3d
7/3, 7/31, 9/25 - IUI#2-4=BFN
IVF#1 - 1 blast = BFP!! (12/30), EDD 9/9/12, confirmed c/p 4w2d
FET#1 3/2/12 - 2 blasts =BFP!! EDD 11/18/12, us#1 = twins! Confirmed m/c 5w6d
4/20-surprise BFP and another c/p 4w2d
FET#2 7/16/12 - 2 blasts = BFN
FET#3 8/20/12 - 1 blast - BFP!! Beta #1-2=177, 354
1st u/s 5w6d, one beautiful little HB , 2nd u/s 146bpm
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TTC#2 since 12/17/2014, Cycle 8
Repeat Testing...FSH=12, AMH=3.8, AFC=28.
IUI#5 5/10/15- c/p?
IVF#2 8/19/15 - cancelled due to cysts
IVF#2 take two 10/2015 - 5 blasts frozen
FET#4 12/11/2015 - BFN - 4 blasts remaining
FET#5 2/18/16 - BFP!!! Beta1-3, 126, 250, 745!!
Tons of love and ((hugs)) to my IF sister NMscubagirl
3 failed IVF with OE and 2 failed frozen DE cycles
Last fresh hail mary DE cycle starting Feb 2013
PAIF/SAIF always welcome
Thanks!!
3 failed IVF with OE and 2 failed frozen DE cycles
Last fresh hail mary DE cycle starting Feb 2013
PAIF/SAIF always welcome
IVF #1 = BFN
FET #1 = BFN
FET #2 = BFN
IVF #2 = BFP, b/g twins lost at 20w due to partial abruption/PPROM
IVF #3 = c/p 5w2d
Long-shot Clomid/Prednisone cycle before next IVF = BFP, our beautiful, healthy girl born 6/26/13!
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TTC again March 2014
FET #3 - May/June 2014 - all embryos arrested before xfer - back to the drawing board...
IVF #4 - July/August 2014
Ditto this. I would, however talk with her about things I've learned about DOR status. There are other very serious considerations to pursuing your OE once you have DOR. Certainly a big obstacle is a reduced number, but this issue is not the primary concern of TTC with DOR, based upon my personal research. The research I've read with respect to trisomies and m/c rates with DOR patients under the age 35 is staggering and played a huge role as a woman over 35 in our decision to stop cycling with my OE. DOR is a bigger deal than just a numbers game and with a high FSH and a canceled cycle under her belt, she's dealing with DOR.
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It's frustrating to see many women with DOR make these major decisions without having all of the information to consider first. Even our RE didn't really tell us and he conducted a major study on the consequences of IVF with DOR. I guess he wanted us to find our own way? Maybe that's where your friend's doc is coming from. You have to be ready and willing to receive the info. Erg. It's a stinky and tough situation, reb.
ETA I have a big mouth, so you should take what I've said with a grain of salt. lol
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DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
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I tend to agree and that is basically what my dr friend said in addition to there is a chance it could work. My IF friend does plan to do PGD.
Like I said before, she is not a newbie to all this and she has struggled a lot and I hope this does work for her.
Thanks Ladies!!
3 failed IVF with OE and 2 failed frozen DE cycles
Last fresh hail mary DE cycle starting Feb 2013
PAIF/SAIF always welcome
Well, fsh is only as good as ur worst number...so the 9 means nothing.
I would think her RE should do amh, and get a better pic. How she moves forward is her call, but the care she is getting sounds suspicious. Maybe u could point that out, and a 2nd opinion could help her make a more informed decision.
I wouldn't say anything to her. The fact that she was already prepared to move to DE tells me that she is prepared for the worse in using her own eggs. If it were me, regardless of my response and outcome at a foreign clinic, I would want to give myself a chance here in the US. Plus I've had really bad advice from OB/gyn in the past and quite frankly I don't think they have a clue how to get a patient pregnant. Their expertise is only after the bun is already in the oven.
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Ivf #1 4/10 Antagonist, ET Cancelled.
IVF #2 2/11 A/ACP+E2V C/P
IVF #3 6/11 Letrozole/Antagonist BFN
IVF #4 11/11 Low stim Antagonist BFN
Lap 3/12 Lap & Selective HSG
Many cycles of Letrozole and LP HCG w/TI and LDN
IVF #5 8/12 Low stim BFN
IUI #1 10/12 BFN br> S&PAIFW
This is how I feel. But, I think you need to let her find out for herself. It may be one of those things that she needs to cycle one more time for closure. Just be there for her in the end if things don't go her way.