EIF found at 18wk u/s

mest1215 · August 2012

anyone have any advice/experience with this??

hansonam446 · August 2012

I don't have any personal expeirence but this is what I found when I looked up EIF. It hope it comforts you a little bit.

Echogenic intracardiac focus (EIF) is a small bright spot seen in the baby?s heart on an ultrasound exam. This is thought to represent mineralization, or small deposits of calcium, in the muscle of the heart. EIFs are found in about 3-5% of normal pregnancies and cause no health problems.

EIFs themselves have no impact on health or heart function. Often the EIF is gone by the third trimester. If there are no problems or chromosome abnormalities, EIFs are considered normal changes, or variants.

krystal61705 · August 2012

I found out the same at our 21 wk u/s. Went for a follow up and they were not at all concerned. They see them very often.

mest1215 · August 2012

hansonam446:
I don't have any personal expeirence but this is what I found when I looked up EIF. It hope it comforts you a little bit.
Echogenic intracardiac focus (EIF) is a small bright spot seen in the baby?s heart on an ultrasound exam. This is thought to represent mineralization, or small deposits of calcium, in the muscle of the heart. EIFs are found in about 3-5% of normal pregnancies and cause no health problems.

EIFs themselves have no impact on health or heart function. Often the EIF is gone by the third trimester. If there are no problems or chromosome abnormalities, EIFs are considered normal changes, or variants.

Right, but i do have a friend whos son had one when she was pregnant and she was told it just put her at a higher risk for Down Syndrome. She figured everything would be fine bc the odds were low...and her son was born w/ D.S. I was just curious if anyone had any differnent stories about their experiences (bc she is of course freaking me out and making me worry excessively)

mest1215 · August 2012

krystal61705:
I found out the same at our 21 wk u/s. Went for a follow up and they were not at all concerned. They see them very often.

thank you for telling me this....im glad to hear someone else w/ a good outcome!!!!

kelly321 · August 2012

mest1215:
hansonam446:
I don't have any personal expeirence but this is what I found when I looked up EIF. It hope it comforts you a little bit.
Echogenic intracardiac focus (EIF) is a small bright spot seen in the baby?s heart on an ultrasound exam. This is thought to represent mineralization, or small deposits of calcium, in the muscle of the heart. EIFs are found in about 3-5% of normal pregnancies and cause no health problems.

EIFs themselves have no impact on health or heart function. Often the EIF is gone by the third trimester. If there are no problems or chromosome abnormalities, EIFs are considered normal changes, or variants.

Right, but i do have a friend whos son had one when she was pregnant and she was told it just put her at a higher risk for Down Syndrome. She figured everything would be fine bc the odds were low...and her son was born w/ D.S. I was just curious if anyone had any differnent stories about their experiences (bc she is of course freaking me out and making me worry excessively)

If 3-5% of babies show EIF on the anatomy scan, and 1:1000 (it's somewhere between 1:800 and 1:1000) babies are born with Down's, then that is a lot of babies who show EIF but do not have DS. Does that help a little? My brain's too foggy to do the math right now, but I'm thinking that's more than 90% of babies with EIF do not have DS. If you're really worried about DS specifically, you could probably have an amnio done.

mest1215 · August 2012

kelly321:
mest1215:
hansonam446:
I don't have any personal expeirence but this is what I found when I looked up EIF. It hope it comforts you a little bit.
Echogenic intracardiac focus (EIF) is a small bright spot seen in the baby?s heart on an ultrasound exam. This is thought to represent mineralization, or small deposits of calcium, in the muscle of the heart. EIFs are found in about 3-5% of normal pregnancies and cause no health problems.

EIFs themselves have no impact on health or heart function. Often the EIF is gone by the third trimester. If there are no problems or chromosome abnormalities, EIFs are considered normal changes, or variants.

Right, but i do have a friend whos son had one when she was pregnant and she was told it just put her at a higher risk for Down Syndrome. She figured everything would be fine bc the odds were low...and her son was born w/ D.S. I was just curious if anyone had any differnent stories about their experiences (bc she is of course freaking me out and making me worry excessively)
If 3-5% of babies show EIF on the anatomy scan, and 1:1000 (it's somewhere between 1:800 and 1:1000) babies are born with Down's, then that is a lot of babies who show EIF but do not have DS. Does that help a little? My brain's too foggy to do the math right now, but I'm thinking that's more than 90% of babies with EIF do not have DS. If you're really worried about DS specifically, you could probably have an amnio done.

YES it does help theres always that one person who gives you the 'unwanted' advice about how awful it will all turn out and how worried i should be, and what i should do and wouldnt do...I just wanna say 'just bc it happened to you doesnt mean it WILL happen to me'...so yes, thank you for being a voice of reason for me

Buttercup011 · August 2012

I had this exact thing happen at 18 week u/s - my nt scan had already showed an increased risk for downs, and they told me this increased the risk....long story short, I ended up having the maternit21 test and everything is fine (no downs). We were sent to a specialist who told me this "can be a marker for downs, but it isn't a very good one." All the best to you!

hansonam446 · August 2012

mest1215:
kelly321:
mest1215:
hansonam446:
I don't have any personal expeirence but this is what I found when I looked up EIF. It hope it comforts you a little bit.
Echogenic intracardiac focus (EIF) is a small bright spot seen in the baby?s heart on an ultrasound exam. This is thought to represent mineralization, or small deposits of calcium, in the muscle of the heart. EIFs are found in about 3-5% of normal pregnancies and cause no health problems.

EIFs themselves have no impact on health or heart function. Often the EIF is gone by the third trimester. If there are no problems or chromosome abnormalities, EIFs are considered normal changes, or variants.

Right, but i do have a friend whos son had one when she was pregnant and she was told it just put her at a higher risk for Down Syndrome. She figured everything would be fine bc the odds were low...and her son was born w/ D.S. I was just curious if anyone had any differnent stories about their experiences (bc she is of course freaking me out and making me worry excessively)
If 3-5% of babies show EIF on the anatomy scan, and 1:1000 (it's somewhere between 1:800 and 1:1000) babies are born with Down's, then that is a lot of babies who show EIF but do not have DS. Does that help a little? My brain's too foggy to do the math right now, but I'm thinking that's more than 90% of babies with EIF do not have DS. If you're really worried about DS specifically, you could probably have an amnio done.

YES it does help theres always that one person who gives you the 'unwanted' advice about how awful it will all turn out and how worried i should be, and what i should do and wouldnt do...I just wanna say 'just bc it happened to you doesnt mean it WILL happen to me'...so yes, thank you for being a voice of reason for me

Ugh math. Lol but yeah, chances are good everything is normal. I understand you may be paranoid about the what-ifs but honestly, she was probably the exception more so than the standard. So take a deep breath and try to relax.

hmontty · August 2012

kelly321:
mest1215:
hansonam446:
I don't have any personal expeirence but this is what I found when I looked up EIF. It hope it comforts you a little bit.
Echogenic intracardiac focus (EIF) is a small bright spot seen in the baby?s heart on an ultrasound exam. This is thought to represent mineralization, or small deposits of calcium, in the muscle of the heart. EIFs are found in about 3-5% of normal pregnancies and cause no health problems.

EIFs themselves have no impact on health or heart function. Often the EIF is gone by the third trimester. If there are no problems or chromosome abnormalities, EIFs are considered normal changes, or variants.

Right, but i do have a friend whos son had one when she was pregnant and she was told it just put her at a higher risk for Down Syndrome. She figured everything would be fine bc the odds were low...and her son was born w/ D.S. I was just curious if anyone had any differnent stories about their experiences (bc she is of course freaking me out and making me worry excessively)
If 3-5% of babies show EIF on the anatomy scan, and 1:1000 (it's somewhere between 1:800 and 1:1000) babies are born with Down's, then that is a lot of babies who show EIF but do not have DS. Does that help a little? My brain's too foggy to do the math right now, but I'm thinking that's more than 90% of babies with EIF do not have DS. If you're really worried about DS specifically, you could probably have an amnio done.

Exactly. Have an amnio, or at the very least, look into MaterniT21, which has a >99% screening accuracy.

katrinareena79 · August 2012

My Dr. called me yesterday to say at my anatomy scan they saw an EIF. She explained that it is a soft marker for DS but very common and normally goes away on it's own. She referred me to a perinatologist who will take a closer look in two weeks. She also told me that they will look at the pelvic region because the baby has renal pelvic fullness. She told me this was not a soft marker and also normally not a big deal.

Of course I am still freaking out because that's what I do but I've searched all over the internet and found that it is very common and some people say that Dr.'s would like to take this off the list of soft markers for DS but at the moment it is a law that they have to tell you. Also, I had the NT scan and my numbers came back good so my Dr. said that is a good sign. Did you have any tests done before?

MKE6115 · August 2012

Not for myself but a my friends sister just I'd. She is having multiple other problems with her pregnancy they thought they saw something. She had. Fetal echo yesterday and the cardiologist said everything itch the baby's heart is fine.

Erin Litton · August 2012

DS is caused by an extra copy of chromosome 21. It occurs at conception. While some children with DS may have EIF, EIF has nothing to do with the cause of DS.

Here is a link with some info on DS and what causes it.

https://www.medicinenet.com/down_syndrome/article.htm#what_is_down_syndrome

ssmb_clarinet · August 2012

At my 20 week A/S they found an EIF, then at 21 weeks when they did a recheck for another issue they saw the EIF was gone. I think sometimes they show up because of a shadow or the way the baby is positioned and are not necessarily a problem. The genetic counselor told me that unless there were other markers, an EIF is generally nothing to worry too much about.

Kingston54 · August 2012

We were told LO had an EIF at our 20 week ultrasound. The way the doctor explained it to us was that the technology is so good now that it's picking up on things that it normally wouldn't and they are often things that resolve themselves before birth so no need to worry. Hopefully that's the case with yours. DS was 100% fine.

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