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Any tips on VBAC'ing naturally w restrictions?

First delivery a scheduled CS due to breech presentation and failed ECV. Hoping to VBAC this one naturally, but I'm finding out my labor will be somewhat restricted. I had a doula in line last time, but I think I'm skipping hiring one this time around because things seem really uncertain. The hospital will require continuous monitoring and an IV so I won't have the range of movement that makes me feel a little more confident in my ability to do a natural delivery. I'm also nervous about an emergency situation arising- without an epidural in place already I'll face a CS under general anesthesia. Any tips for working through this type of delivery scenario. I'm doubtful right now of my ability to proceed naturally and am considering going the epidural route. My OBGYN has strongly recommended waiting until at least 5cm before getting an epidural if I want one, so I thought I'd just labor at home as long as possible, but my husband is really nervous about the VBAC and wants to head to the hospital ASAP after labor begins. Any advice? If you read all this-THANKs!
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Re: Any tips on VBAC'ing naturally w restrictions?

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    I'm also nervous about an emergency situation arising- without an epidural in place already I'll face a CS under general anesthesia. Any tips for working through this type of delivery scenario. I'm doubtful right now of my ability to proceed naturally and am considering going the epidural route. My OBGYN has strongly recommended waiting until at least 5cm before getting an epidural if I want one, so I thought I'd just labor at home as long as possible, but my husband is really nervous about the VBAC and wants to head to the hospital ASAP after labor begins. Any advice? If you read all this-THANKs!

    Uterine rupture during a VBAC has about the same chance as happening as a cord prolapse with a regular labor - and you don't see many doctors insisting on epidural access, IV and CFM because of it. 

    You're going to be put under general if your labor turns into a RCS, no matter what? If so, that's really shady and I would try and find a different provider, in all honesty. Laboring during a VBAC without an epidural is totally fine, and not a huge risk.

    I would hire a doula - the one I hired for my VBAC had 15+ years experience and was almost done with CPM school (and could do cervical exams, though that's out of the scope of traditional doulas).

    CFM and a saline/hep lock are standard with any hospital VBAC. I would insist on not having a full IV, as that will tie you to the bed. Do you know if you have to stay in bed, or how quickly you have to labor?

    My MW always told me to stay at home until I was in "full labor" with my VBAC - going in the minute labor starts is probably a bad plan, no offense to your DH!

    These are some good links for your DH:

     https://vbacfacts.com/category/vbac/uterine-rupture/

     https://www.childbirthconnection.org/article.asp?ck=10214

    You might also want to try and contact your local ICAN chapter, and see if there are friendlier providers in your area, and if your current OB has a good VBAC record.

    Good luck!

    DS1 - Feb 2008

    DS2 - Oct 2010 (my VBAC baby!)

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  • I had a c-section for the exact same reason and I'm also planning on a med-free VBAC (in a few weeks!).

    The continuous monitoring: do you know if it is wires or wireless? At my hospital it is wireless, which makes it much better. I can even get into the huge labor tub or shower with the monitors on. As far as the IV goes, my doctor is fine with me just having a herapin lock, so no fluids or anything without reason, but full mobility for me and easy access for them should the need arise. Maybe see if this is an option?

     I think all the uncertainty makes it more important than ever for you to hire a doula to make sure you are well supported and have someone who really knows birth on your side.

    I think the best you can do is accept that you may need an epidural so you won't be disappointed after the fact, but plan whole-heartedly for a natural birth anyway. That way you'll be prepared for either situation.

    Lots of luck!

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  • My sister has had two vaginal births since her first one was born by c-section. The way she made it work was going for the epidural. She was able to stay calm and relaxed knowing that if a c-section was necessary, she wouldn't be put totally under, and she also didn't have to worry about managing labor pains while being so closely monitored. It's also worth noting that epis seem to help my sister progress well, so she never had any fears of stalling out. Having been through both the c-secton and the vaginal birth experience, she can't say often enough how much more comfortable and satisfying a vaginal birth is (especially post-partum), even if she's never had a pain-med free birth as she originally planned with #1.

    But that's just what worked for her... I don't want make you feel like an epi is a "must." 

    ETA: Also, as pp's have stated, uterine rupture risks *are* quite low. So it's definitely worth it to try to minimize interventions and monitoring if you're able/comfortable!

  • Thanks for the responses. The monitoring is wired, unfortunately. I can do a hep lock, so I will most likely request that. I'm going to ask about every specific detail of hospital policy at my appt. on Wednesday so there are no 'surprises' when I show up in labor. A RCS does not imply general anesthesia if I fail the TOL-only if there is an (slim chance) emergency situation where every second counts and I don't have an epidural in place already.   My husband supports whatever I decide, but has been honest in his opinion that he would prefer a RCS and that VBAC scares him. We have discussed both sides of the situation at length and I understand and respect where he is coming from, as does he toward me and my preference. He is a veterinarian and has done his research here to be pretty well educated about all medical aspects of each side, I don't fault him for his gut feeling. I feel going into this like the cards are stacked against me in achieving a natural labor? I'm worried that my mental state of being so uncertain will negatively impact me. I believe calling my doula friend and seeing if she is available in October may be the biggest help (for me and DH). 
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  • A doula that you trust and meeting with your local ICAN group can make all the difference. Has your hubby really researched all the risks of a C/S ? A C/S is far riskier than VBAC, hence the ACOG's stance promoting VBAC. I just had a HBAC after much research (I'm a NICU RN) and I can say I was not at all concerned about uterine rupture. GL!
  • imagenc@hotmail.com:
    I feel going into this like the cards are stacked against me in achieving a natural labor? I'm worried that my mental state of being so uncertain will negatively impact me. I believe calling my doula friend and seeing if she is available in October may be the biggest help (for me and DH). 

    Does your DH know about how you feel? RCS and VBAC are both valid options, planning a VBAC isn't taking a crazy risk. And staying at home until you're really in active labor is a better idea if you're planning a med-free birth, especially if you're not going to a very supportive hospital.

    Definitely talk your friend who's a doula - with VBAC, I think it's extra important to have as much support as possible. She might have other people you can talk to about your worries.

    You can do this! I was a mess the closer I got to labor during my second pregnancy, totally know the feelings :)

    DS1 - Feb 2008

    DS2 - Oct 2010 (my VBAC baby!)

  • I had a failed VBAC -- dilated to 10 but baby did not descend -- and did not get a general.  The anes.  did a spinal and the doc did c-s right away.  I do not think you need to have an epi.
  • Are you happy you tried the VBAC even though it wasn't successful? How was recovery from your 2nd CS after going through labor before?
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