An update and a ? (embryo quality post)

SkyBee · July 2012

Hey ladies, so we transfered the two best embryos on Saturday. The RE called today and the other 2 didn't make it to the freeze..... I am sad about it, but very hopeful that I get pregnant this cycle.

We did this newer procedure where they insert 500 iu of HCG into your uterus 5 min. before transfering the embryos. My doctor said that studies have showed it increases implantation by 15%. Has any one else done this?

Mrs.McIrish · July 2012

I'm not sure how to say this so I just will. You have a 10 month old baby and you are doing your first IVF right now. I'm not following how you are a Vet and how the Vet board is an appropriate place for you to be posting??

If the other ladies know you and think it is appropriate, I will step aside but this is my opinion.

GL with your IVF.

SkyBee · July 2012

I apologize. DX: Azoospermia

with DS we got pregnant on our 8th dIUI cycle

this year we have done 3 IUIs and on the 4th, there were too many follies, so we converted to IVF.

We want our kids to be close in age if we happen to be able to get pregnant sooner than later.

ETA: I don't put our DX or any other information in the siggy any more on the off chance that someone we know IRL sees it...... we have kept our DX a secret from everyone except close family.

Also, when I posted on the IF board I was flamed for the picture of DS and asked to post here instead.

reb259 · July 2012

I think you may have missed her (McIrish) point...

Mrs.McIrish · July 2012

SkyBee:

I apologize. DX: Azoospermia

with DS we got pregnant on our 8th dIUI cycle

this year we have done 3 IUIs and on the 4th, there were too many follies, so we converted to IVF.

We want our kids to be close in age if we happen to be able to get pregnant sooner than later.

ETA: I don't put our DX or any other information in the siggy any more on the off chance that someone we know IRL sees it...... we have kept our DX a secret from everyone except close family.

Also, when I posted on the IF board I was flamed for the picture of DS and asked to post here instead.

Thanks for the explanation!! I'll just shut my mouth now, LOL:-)

Edwina.McDunnough · July 2012

Actually, McIrish is correct, this board is for longtime posters on the IF board and for those with a shared history. Having a kid in your siggie does not make you IFV by default. I know that lots of people on different boards are undergoing IF treatments, but having an IF history alone doesn't default you as a contributing member of the IF community unless you actually participated on that board.

ETA The impression I get is that you're looking for support but don't really get the whole point of the board. I mean, since you've posted 2 "need help" posts I can't seem to find any posts where you actually offer anyone else any support or kind words. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but if you have these kinds of general questions, and there's nothing wrong with that at all, they belong on IF along with a siggie warning. I think the person that steered you here was not giving you the best guidance.

The icing on the cake is worrying about having kids with similar ages. Most women here are struggling with the reality of possibly never having kids, and this concern is so far off base with what the women here are facing. I really hope that you can see how voicing these thoughts on IFV intrude on what many feel is their only safe spot, especially when there are many boards where this very valid and real concern is appropriate to discuss.

Nesting.Away · July 2012

Most of the women here have not found success yet and are actually Vets of the IF board, meaning they have been part of that board for forever and a day. I am thinking you might not find the answers you are looking for. Good luck to you.

SkyBee · July 2012

Thank you for the replies. Before getting pregnant I was active on the IF board and then after I was on SAIF and also PAIF. I do know some of the ladies here, but not enough I guess.

SkyBee · July 2012

Edwina.McDunnough:

Actually, McIrish is correct, this board is for longtime posters on the IF board and for those with a shared history. Having a kid in your siggie does not make you IFV by default. I know that lots of people on different boards are undergoing IF treatments, but having an IF history alone doesn't default you as a contributing member of the IF community unless you actually participated on that board.

ETA The impression I get is that you're looking for support but don't really get the whole point of the board. I mean, since you've posted 2 "need help" posts I can't seem to find any posts where you actually offer anyone else any support or kind words. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but if you have these kinds of general questions, and there's nothing wrong with that at all, they belong on IF along with a siggie warning. I think the person that steered you here was not giving you the best guidance.

The icing on the cake is worrying about having kids with similar ages. Most women here are struggling with the reality of possibly never having kids, and this concern is so far off base with what the women here are facing. I really hope that you can see how voicing these thoughts on IFV intrude on what many feel is their only safe spot, especially when there are many boards where this very valid and real concern is appropriate to discuss.

I only explained the having kids close in age because it was mentioned that I already have a 10 month old.

lyse2143 · July 2012

Holy crap guys. She HAS been around for quite a while and qualifies for this board if you want to get technical by the mandatory "an active (6 month+) history on the IF board and an established connection to the IF community (IF, PAIF, and SAIF," Apparently you should add in the board description that if you have a child you must start over on IF for at least 6 months or something. I just gotta shake my head sometimes.

Nesting.Away · July 2012

I have been around longer than most and did not recognize her screen name. Had I realized she did have an established relationship, my response would have been different.

Sky- so sorry for not recognizing you.

miesl · July 2012

Wow. I realize that I'm likely to get flamed as an unrecognizable former vet, but I try to keep track of people with similar DX. I recognize her from the azoo check in. Azoo is an crappy DX, you never feel like you fit in anywhere. It's especially hard on here now that SAIF is on FB.

Some of these responses were just nasty mean.

SkyBee, if you want to talk to another azoo mom, PM me. Good luck with your 2ww!

SkyBee · July 2012

miesl:

Wow. I realize that I'm likely to get flamed as an unrecognizable former vet, but I try to keep track of people with similar DX. I recognize her from the azoo check in. Azoo is an crappy DX, you never feel like you fit in anywhere. It's especially hard on here now that SAIF is on FB.

Some of these responses were just nasty mean.

SkyBee, if you want to talk to another azoo mom, PM me. Good luck with your 2ww!

Thank you Miesl.

Denae'sTTC · August 2012

SkyBee:
miesl:

Wow. I realize that I'm likely to get flamed as an unrecognizable former vet, but I try to keep track of people with similar DX. I recognize her from the azoo check in. Azoo is an crappy DX, you never feel like you fit in anywhere. It's especially hard on here now that SAIF is on FB.

Some of these responses were just nasty mean.

SkyBee, if you want to talk to another azoo mom, PM me. Good luck with your 2ww!

Thank you Miesl.

Sky why don't you try the secondary infertility board. All the women there are working on a second or whatever, but a lot have a DX and have done IF treatments for Thier first as well......I post on both boards...it took me over 2 years for ds and over 2 years now for this seconds baby....I think I qualify as a vet but I also post on secondary...l good luck!

may2806 · August 2012

I think it can just be difficult to see a post from someone who has a 10 month old and is now doing her first IVF. I get that azoo is a hard dx, and she probably has been around for awhile, but I don't recognize her either. Coming here without an introduction (or did I miss it?) or a siggy warning could be taken the wrong way. I think in general it's difficult for second timers to be accepted on this board because so many ladies here are still struggling for their first and facing the reality of NEVER having genetic/bio children (like me).

Mrs.McIrish · August 2012

may2806:

I think it can just be difficult to see a post from someone who has a 10 month old and is now doing her first IVF. I get the azoo is a hard dx, and she probably has been around for awhile, but I don't recognize her either. Coming here without an introduction (or did I miss it?) or a siggy warning could be taken the wrong way. I think in general it's difficult for second timers to be accepted on this board because so many ladies here are still struggling for their first and facing the reality of NEVER having genetic/bio children (like me).

This!

I also think it is different if the poster was on IFV before her baby and stayed here supporting us the entire time she was pg and afterwards. You can't just appear 2 yrs later and expect open arms. There are certain IFV graduates who continue to post here but they never actually left and deserted us once they had their babies and didn't "need" something from us.

Gregermis · August 2012

Skybee was an extremely active poster and great supporter when I first joined TB on TTGP. Soon after she joined the IF board and I lurked some there to follow her way back when. I think she definitely qualifies as a IFV personally.

Maybe it would help if she changed her siggy? From what I understand, not a lot of girls going through IVF on 2nd IF, and Skybee is NOT secondary IF. I'm sorry, but I get irritated when those girls like Skybee that struggled for so long TTC #1 get pushed that way.

STL34 · August 2012

I read something about that procedure before IVF #3. But, it wasn't something my RE would do. Good luck!

may2806 · August 2012

Gregermis:
Maybe it would help if she changed her siggy? From what I understand, not a lot of girls going through IVF on 2nd IF, and Skybee is NOT secondary IF. I'm sorry, but I get irritated when those girls like Skybee that struggled for so long TTC #1 get pushed that way.

I do agree that secondary IF is a different thing. I wish that SAIF was more active now, because there used to be a lot of ladies on there trying for #2 (I used to lurk). I feel like we've run across this problem a couple of times recently where those trying for #2 don't have anywhere to go.

Maybe a change of siggy would help but I still think that it's hard to see those trying for #2. Not to say that they don't belong here, maybe they do, but I personally have a hard time with it so I often don't open their posts. That might be my problem though.

Mrs.McIrish · August 2012

may2806:
Gregermis:

Maybe it would help if she changed her siggy? From what I understand, not a lot of girls going through IVF on 2nd IF, and Skybee is NOT secondary IF. I'm sorry, but I get irritated when those girls like Skybee that struggled for so long TTC #1 get pushed that way.

I do agree that secondary IF is a different thing. I wish that SAIF was more active now, because there used to be a lot of ladies on there trying for #2 (I used to lurk). I feel like we've run across this problem a couple of times recently where those trying for #2 don't have anywhere to go.

Maybe a change of siggy would help but I still think that it's hard to see those trying for #2. Not to say that they don't belong here, maybe they do, but I personally have a hard time with it so I often don't open their posts. That might be my problem though.

I don't think it is just you May. I agree that Secondary IF isn't right place for those that had primary IF. I think the ladies need to revive SAIF so they have somewhere to go. I get that they need a place to go and bounce stuff off. I just don't think it should be at our expense because people abandoned SAIF. I have enough trouble seeing babies IRL and don't need it here in our "safe" place.

Gregermis · August 2012

Mrs.McIrish:
may2806:
Gregermis:

Maybe it would help if she changed her siggy? From what I understand, not a lot of girls going through IVF on 2nd IF, and Skybee is NOT secondary IF. I'm sorry, but I get irritated when those girls like Skybee that struggled for so long TTC #1 get pushed that way.

I do agree that secondary IF is a different thing. I wish that SAIF was more active now, because there used to be a lot of ladies on there trying for #2 (I used to lurk). I feel like we've run across this problem a couple of times recently where those trying for #2 don't have anywhere to go.

Maybe a change of siggy would help but I still think that it's hard to see those trying for #2. Not to say that they don't belong here, maybe they do, but I personally have a hard time with it so I often don't open their posts. That might be my problem though.

I don't think it is just you May. I agree that Secondary IF isn't right place for those that had primary IF. I think the ladies need to revive SAIF so they have somewhere to go. I get that they need a place to go and bounce stuff off. I just don't think it should be at our expense because people abandoned SAIF. I have enough trouble seeing babies IRL and don't need it here in our "safe" place.

I do agree on the trouble seeing babies, any chance you'd considering changing your siggy SkyBee? Your baby is awfully cute, but...

mtlaurel · August 2012

I'm late to this discussion, but I don't think it's the siggy that bothers me. I don't mind seeing the children of other Vets who have succeeded and are still a part of this board because I know them and their struggles and am happy they finally met success. What bothers me is that SkyBee never intro'd or explained her dx before posting questions, and hasn't offered support to others. I consider that poor etiquette.

rockpaperlove · August 2012

mtlaurel:
I'm late to this discussion, but I don't think it's the siggy that bothers me. I don't mind seeing the children of other Vets who have succeeded and are still a part of this board because I know them and their struggles and am happy they finally met success. What bothers me is that SkyBee never intro'd or explained her dx before posting questions, and hasn't offered support to others. I consider that poor etiquette.

My sentiment exactly. From start to finish.

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