4 BFPs then BFN on day of AF

yohannah · July 2012

Hi everyone, I'm new around here. I have a general question. I got my first BFP on 11DPO (Sunday), second one later that night and I even took another one the next morning to be sure. AF was not due until today...I noticed a small amount of brown discharge when I went to the bathroom. I freaked..so I waited and tested. BFN

I don't understand what is going with my body! Was it a false positive the whole time...or is there still a chance if I'm just spotting and AF doesn't come? Dr.'s office won't see my until 8 weeks..Thanks in advance for any advice on the topic..

mrsjjohnson2010 · July 2012

Can you ask for a blood test? That doesn't require you to see a doctor, the nurse could give you the results over the phone. Also, the discharge could just be implantation bleeding, since AF is due.

I pray all is well!

watermellens · July 2012

Sorry you're going through this. What kind of tests are you using?

Blue dye tests are notorious for false positives. I would try to test tomorrow with FMU using a digital or FRER.

It's possible that it's a chemical pregnancy or it's possible that you're still pregnant and this will just be spotting. fingers crossed!

hatroopes · July 2012

Did you use a blue-dye test? I hear they are known for false positives. You should re-test with a FRER. Wish you the best and hope you get some answers.

yohannah · July 2012

Thank you both for your quick and kind responses! Initially i used the First Response test and got a faint line. The three were Clear Blue Digital. I figured since in the past I had gotten BFN with them, they'd for sure pick up a positive. I have literally tested all week....I might just have to get to the dr.'s office. Thanks again!

NicoleN82 · July 2012

mrsjjohnson2010:

Can you ask for a blood test? That doesn't require you to see a doctor, the nurse could give you the results over the phone. Also, the discharge could just be implantation bleeding, since AF is due.

I pray all is well!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't implantation bleeding, if it happen, have to happen before you get your BFP? Technically speaking, if the embyo has not implanted then you would not have a BFP...right?

Either way, I think you should test again in the morning with a digi. If it is +, but you are still spotting, contact your doctor. If it is negative and AF shows, then I don't think a doctor's visit is in order.

Good luck!

PrimRoseMama · July 2012

yohannah:
Hi everyone, I'm new around here. I have a general question. I got my first BFP on 11DPO (Sunday), second one later that night and I even took another one the next morning to be sure. AF was not due until today...I noticed a small amount of brown discharge when I went to the bathroom. I freaked..so I waited and tested. BFN I don't understand what is going with my body! Was it a false positive the whole time...or is there still a chance if I'm just spotting and AF doesn't come? Dr.'s office won't see my until 8 weeks..Thanks in advance for any advice on the topic..

I am sorry to say that it sounds like you may be experiencing a chemical pregnancy. I do have some questions though:

1) When you took the HPT, was it blue dye? Those are notorious for false positives.

2) Did you test first thing in the morning? If you are using diluted urine & are early on you could get a negative.

I hope you get positive results. You could ask for a blood draw to see if your betas (hormone #) are rising or falling. The worst your doctor can say is no. I would call your doctor's office & ask then for a beta draw. Don't lose hope yet if you can. I hope it all works out for a healthy pregnancy for you.

yohannah · July 2012

The first test was the FRER and the rest were clear blue digital.. Today, when i tested and got the negative it wasn't the first morning urine. Probably the third time i've gone this morning...I called the doc...nurse will be calling shortly..

boo

thanks for your help!

yohannah · July 2012

Oops! I forgot, This morning i got the negative with a clear blue digital..

mrsjjohnson2010 · July 2012

NicoleN82:
mrsjjohnson2010:

Can you ask for a blood test? That doesn't require you to see a doctor, the nurse could give you the results over the phone. Also, the discharge could just be implantation bleeding, since AF is due.

I pray all is well!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't implantation bleeding, if it happen, have to happen before you get your BFP? Technically speaking, if the embyo has not implanted then you would not have a BFP...right?

Either way, I think you should test again in the morning with a digi. If it is +, but you are still spotting, contact your doctor. If it is negative and AF shows, then I don't think a doctor's visit is in order.

Good luck!

i cant say thats true! I had implantation bleeding 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. i guess it depends when you test.

SPerry0376 · July 2012

I would test with a regular first response so you can judge for yourself.

purplepeanut6 · July 2012

NicoleN82:
mrsjjohnson2010:

Can you ask for a blood test? That doesn't require you to see a doctor, the nurse could give you the results over the phone. Also, the discharge could just be implantation bleeding, since AF is due.

I pray all is well!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't implantation bleeding, if it happen, have to happen before you get your BFP? Technically speaking, if the embyo has not implanted then you would not have a BFP...right?

Either way, I think you should test again in the morning with a digi. If it is +, but you are still spotting, contact your doctor. If it is negative and AF shows, then I don't think a doctor's visit is in order.

Good luck!

I think your right... Im pretty sure you can have implantation bleeding AFTER you've been implanted and got a BFP...

purplepeanut6 · July 2012

yohannah:
The first test was the FRER and the rest were clear blue digital.. Today, when i tested and got the negative it wasn't the first morning urine. Probably the third time i've gone this morning...I called the doc...nurse will be calling shortly..

boo

thanks for your help!

Im sorry OP, but it sounds like a CP. I hope its not though and you get good results.

NicoleN82 · July 2012

ChancieMark:
mrsjjohnson2010:

i cant say thats true! I had implantation bleeding 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. i guess it depends when you test.

Holy hell. Your body DOES NOT produce HCG until the embryo implants, even then it can take a few days for the HCG to build up in your system enough to turn a test positive.

https://www.babymed.com/early-positive-pregnancy-test-after-implantation

It was probably just old blood, or random pregnancy spotting.

Thanks Chancie! I thought so....spotting after your BFP would be something different, and is common (from what I hear).

amykins1283 · July 2012

I had this same thing happen to me with my first pregnancy. It was a chemical pregnancy, basically a pregnancy that ends before it even has a chance to take hold.You will probably get your period soon. Sorry you are going through this. It really sucks.

goofyteacher · July 2012

Keep in mind that not all tests are created equally, the sensitivity in the same box of tests can be slightly different.

mrs.kapow · July 2012

NicoleN82:
ChancieMark:
mrsjjohnson2010:

i cant say thats true! I had implantation bleeding 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. i guess it depends when you test.

Holy hell. Your body DOES NOT produce HCG until the embryo implants, even then it can take a few days for the HCG to build up in your system enough to turn a test positive.

https://www.babymed.com/early-positive-pregnancy-test-after-implantation

It was probably just old blood, or random pregnancy spotting.

Thanks Chancie! I thought so....spotting after your BFP would be something different, and is common (from what I hear).

The "bleeding" can take a while to make it down to be visible, from my understanding, which is why most implantation bleeding is brown. So, from my perception, this could be implantation bleeding or a CP.

GraceyandTroy · July 2012

mrs.kapow:
NicoleN82:
ChancieMark:
mrsjjohnson2010:

i cant say thats true! I had implantation bleeding 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. i guess it depends when you test.

Holy hell. Your body DOES NOT produce HCG until the embryo implants, even then it can take a few days for the HCG to build up in your system enough to turn a test positive.

https://www.babymed.com/early-positive-pregnancy-test-after-implantation

It was probably just old blood, or random pregnancy spotting.

Thanks Chancie! I thought so....spotting after your BFP would be something different, and is common (from what I hear).
The "bleeding" can take a while to make it down to be visible, from my understanding, which is why most implantation bleeding is brown. So, from my perception, this could be implantation bleeding or a CP.

This, exactly this. Many women see the implantation bleeding a few days after their BFP for this very reason.

holly321 · July 2012

GraceyandTroy:
mrs.kapow:
NicoleN82:
ChancieMark:
mrsjjohnson2010:

i cant say thats true! I had implantation bleeding 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. i guess it depends when you test.

Holy hell. Your body DOES NOT produce HCG until the embryo implants, even then it can take a few days for the HCG to build up in your system enough to turn a test positive.

https://www.babymed.com/early-positive-pregnancy-test-after-implantation

It was probably just old blood, or random pregnancy spotting.

Thanks Chancie! I thought so....spotting after your BFP would be something different, and is common (from what I hear).
The "bleeding" can take a while to make it down to be visible, from my understanding, which is why most implantation bleeding is brown. So, from my perception, this could be implantation bleeding or a CP.
This, exactly this. Many women see the implantation bleeding a few days after their BFP for this very reason.

My IB was before during and after BFP.

Also, OP, if the bfn was with a digi, I wouldn't worry too much yet. You are still super early, and digis aren't very sensitive. I would buy a multipack of FRER. See if the line is darker. And take one each day.

Also, I would call to get betas done. I didn't do this early enough one time.... so I think I have had a CP, but don't know for sure, and that is frustrating.

ally2011 · July 2012

I am glad you called your doctor. I have had a CP and my doctor's office did want me to come in to draw blood to make sure my levels went back down and everything was ok. Good luck to you, I am sorry you are going through this.

yohannah · July 2012

Thanks again for all the advice. Something to keep my mind at ease. I'm a worrier and I am trying to stay relaxed and not dwell on this.

My doc is out of town and it's friday. Perfect timing, huh? The nurse did call back and asked me first of all...why I took an early test! Oops...shame on me! Anyway,I can't get back in for a blood test until monday at 8AM, but she said among other things that the brownness of the discharge meant older blood, so it was a good sign. Coupled with the fact that I took a digital test without first morning urine could just be that it wasn't strong enough to detect it this time...I had 4 positives before today! Grrr...

I'm wanting to get some FR tests but I know if i do i'll just keep worrying myself into a rut. She told me that I need to wait and watch...if i continue to lightly spot today and over the weekend and it doesn't turn into full on bleeding then its a good sign. However, if i start to bleed heavily, I'll need to go to the hospital. Very scary...hard NOT to worry and rack my brain for an ounce of hope...Thanks again everyone! I'm trying not to stress out, waiting patiently and monitoring whats going on down there...

dande2129 · July 2012

ChancieMark:
mrsjjohnson2010:

i cant say thats true! I had implantation bleeding 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. i guess it depends when you test.
Holy hell. Your body DOES NOT produce HCG until the embryo implants, even then it can take a few days for the HCG to build up in your system enough to turn a test positive.
https://www.babymed.com/early-positive-pregnancy-test-after-implantation
It was probably just old blood, or random pregnancy spotting.

This is exactly what I was thinking... implantation bleeding is specific bleeding as a result of implantation. Spotting isn't called implantation bleeding....it's just spotting, which can be normal. But, semantics.

OP, I hope that it's just early and maybe that one test didn't pick it up since it wasn't the first morning urine. But either way, I hope you can get your blood drawn. Good luck and keep us updated.

yohannah · August 2012

Well, just as I feared. I am no longer pregnant. Guess our little embryo was just passion' through...good enough reason for 4 positives right? I've never felt so betrayed by my body! Ugh! Anyway, just wanted to give a final update. We'll be TTC again this month..it's only our second time to try while I'm charting..so that's exciting. I know my situation (the CP) is common, but what are the odds it happens again? Is it due to timing or something? I think we've got that down. I'm charting and I have a good feeling about when I will Ovulate next! Thanks again for all of your kind advice and patience with me. It's helped a great deal!

synchrosally · August 2012

yohannah:
Well, just as I feared. I am no longer pregnant. Guess our little embryo was just passion' through...good enough reason for 4 positives right? I've never felt so betrayed by my body! Ugh! Anyway, just wanted to give a final update. We'll be TTC again this month..it's only our second time to try while I'm charting..so that's exciting. I know my situation (the CP) is common, but what are the odds it happens again? Is it due to timing or something? I think we've got that down. I'm charting and I have a good feeling about when I will Ovulate next! Thanks again for all of your kind advice and patience with me. It's helped a great deal!

I'm sorry you had to go through this. There's nothing really you can do or not do to make sure you don't have another one. It's all random. I hope you get your true BFP soon.

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