TTC after 35

If you're feeling old today..

I had my annual physical this morning and my Dr. told me she has a 62yr old patient that just adopted a baby from Africa. Yup 62! My primary care said at the end of the day she's happy this women finally got to complete her family after years of tears and frustration and that sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do before you give up.

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Me 41 DH 46  Not actively ttc, surprise BFP on 1/6/11! 4/1/11 m/c our sunshine at 16wks after complications from CVS test. TTC #2 **5th cycle 12/6/11 BFP! Missed m/c at 9 weeks 1/21/12, trisomy 14. Two Chemical PG 3/12&7/12
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  • I may start some pot-stirring today but I think 62 is just too old and not fair to a child.  Yes, I said that... 

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  • I agree in that it would never be something I'd choose to do. My Dr. said this women is in great physical and mental shape or else she wouldn't have been supportive of it. But it is definately not something I would pursue.

    nate and teddy
    Me 41 DH 46  Not actively ttc, surprise BFP on 1/6/11! 4/1/11 m/c our sunshine at 16wks after complications from CVS test. TTC #2 **5th cycle 12/6/11 BFP! Missed m/c at 9 weeks 1/21/12, trisomy 14. Two Chemical PG 3/12&7/12
    ** BFP 8/16/12 beta #1 148! beta#2 407 beta #3 4000 u/s 9.10 1 lovely hb 126, Baby Boy is due 04/28/13!!
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  • I might agree with you, McIrish, unless the child is older. Then again, there's plenty of grandparents out there raising their grandchildren (granted they tend to be younger grandparents).

    Mostly, I'm just surprised and a bit skeptical. A lot of countries have pretty strict age requirements for IA.

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  • my thing is that there must be some special issues with this case. Yes I question the age of the new Mom, whatever if she thinks she can do it...maybe she has a spouse that is younger???

    Anyways the adoption issue is tough for me because well meaning people always say "you can just adopt".....oh yes I would love to but there are lots of tears and frustrations associated with adoption as well as ART. I made a call to my local childrens aid society some years back for some info and I was absolutely devistated....I was told point blank that there would be an almost zero chance that we would be adopting an infant, and the fact that my husband is currently a smoker we would never have a child under 10 (I think that is what it was). At that time I was also given the name of a private adoption cousellor and told this would cost around 12- 15 grand to do a private adoption.

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    I might agree with you, McIrish, unless the child is older. Then again, there's plenty of grandparents out there raising their grandchildren (granted they tend to be younger grandparents).

    Mostly, I'm just surprised and a bit skeptical. A lot of countries have pretty strict age requirements for IA.

     

    Totally agree with you with the skepticism and age requirements. 

     Grandparents raising grandkids out of necessity is totally different imo than the situation being discussed.

    TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
    DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
    5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
    OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
    DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
    DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
    CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
    DE IVF #3 1/14  ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d

    DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
    First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!

    K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days

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  • I certainly didn't dig, but I got the impression that the adoption process took quite a long time. My Dr. said she felt like she was filling out forms for this women for years before the adoption went through. Because she was so heavily involved and I've known her for 15 years, I would trust she's being 100% truthful. She said the child is a very healthy happy one..

    She didn't specificy where in Africa the women adopted from but it certainly appears that age restrictions vary widely, I know a 48yr old women who just adopted a baby from there this past spring... I mean look at Madonna, she had to be almost 50 when she adopted from Africa.

    nate and teddy
    Me 41 DH 46  Not actively ttc, surprise BFP on 1/6/11! 4/1/11 m/c our sunshine at 16wks after complications from CVS test. TTC #2 **5th cycle 12/6/11 BFP! Missed m/c at 9 weeks 1/21/12, trisomy 14. Two Chemical PG 3/12&7/12
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  • Hmmm I was going to say that is plain crazy but if the child was living in very poor conditions then I guess maybe this child is better off with her. I am HOPING if something happens to this lady that there is a backup plan on who is going to step in and raise this child.

    Oh and 50 is still better than 62...lol

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  • I have to say that my first thought was "awesome" and then my 2nd thought was "uh, is she doing this alone? I hope she's alive long enough to get this kid through high school!"

    I was surprised that an agency approved of this adoption, but I'm guessing that she jumped through a TON of hoops (ones Madonna surely avoided) to make it happen.

    I dunno. I have enough emotional ridiculousness on my own plate to worry about other folks I don't know! LOL

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  • McIrish nope that is what I was thinking too.  
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  • imageMrs.McIrish:
    I may start some pot-stirring today but I think 62 is just too old and not fair to a child.  Yes, I said that... 

     

    Agree with this completely and I'll stir the pot more and say she probably had lots of money!! 

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  • Well, assuming she has a close, younger extended family (or husband) and lots of money, that's kind of cool. I have to wonder though, given the doctor said she'd been trying to adopt for a long time, why the international adoption agency waited so long to make the placement? Wouldn't it have been better to do so when she was younger if they were ultimately going to do so?
  • I think I might need to ask more questions when I go back and get the whole story, at the time I just wasn't really curious,since it kind of came out of nowhere anyway when we were discussing IVF, not that it has anything to do with that. Now I want details!

    nate and teddy
    Me 41 DH 46  Not actively ttc, surprise BFP on 1/6/11! 4/1/11 m/c our sunshine at 16wks after complications from CVS test. TTC #2 **5th cycle 12/6/11 BFP! Missed m/c at 9 weeks 1/21/12, trisomy 14. Two Chemical PG 3/12&7/12
    ** BFP 8/16/12 beta #1 148! beta#2 407 beta #3 4000 u/s 9.10 1 lovely hb 126, Baby Boy is due 04/28/13!!
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  • Whatever the case, I am glad to hear this - my parents adopted my sister, she is from Zambia, she was 12 at the time. Any life my parents can give her is better than what Africa had in store for her. It was a simple process. She is 21 now, and had she still been in Africa, her life could have been pretty grim - either contracting aids or being hungry. Who knows, she could have been one of the lucky few who had a job but that is not easy without someone helping you with education. I think most poverty stricken children in Africa would rather have a 63 yr old mom and a roof and education than the sh*t they have in Africa. 
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