Babies on the Brain

NYC has moved on from soda bans to formula lock downs now

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/29/nyc-mayor-wants-hospitals-to-lock-up-baby-formula-to-encourage-breast-feeding/?test=latestnews

So NYC (Bloomberg really) is now trying to guilt new moms into breast feeding.  They are wanting to limit the access and amount of formula a new mother can have.  And when she asks for it, she will get "talked to" about why breast milk is better.  She will get talked to each time she requests a bottle.

I plan on breast feeding my child because I think its healthier, but come on.  You cannot force people to bf.  The FDA wouldnt allow formula to be sold if it didnt have nutritional benefits, who is Bloomberg to decide this for all the new mothers in the city??  Formula is FDA controlled right? 

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  • This kind of thing probably wouldn't have been on my radar 8 months ago.  When L was born, I was so intent on breastfeeding, and the message from EVERYONE that breast is best was very clear.  Too clear, to be honest.  I think that while the message that breast feeding is the optimal choice in most circumstances is a good one, shaming/forcing people to breastfeed is really just a crappy thing to do. 

    I spent my entire pregnancy focused on breastfeeding.  Every time I went to the doctor she mentioned how important it was.  My mother breastfed us for over a year each.  My MIL did the same.  In the hospital, everytime a nurse asked if I was going to breastfeed and I said yes, she'd say, "Good."  Not, "ok," not, "formula is always an option," nothing.  

    When I got home from the hospital with my darling baby, I was so intent on breastfeeding that I essentially starved him.  And even now I can barely even think about it without crying.  My baby ended up in the hospital at 5 days old severely dehydrated and jaundiced because I refused to give him any formula.  It was even sitting there in the closet, but I was SO AFRAID to use formula that I tried and tried to get him to latch, but even when he did I had hardly anything to give him.  I thought that giving formula would be giving up.  Even though I got samples in the mail and samples at the hospital, they didn't make me use formula.  It was sitting next to me but I still sat in that rocking chair crying and begging my baby to latch, stay awake long enough to eat, and on and on and on.

    I have spent the last 8 months feeling huge amounts of guilt and frustration over the whole thing.  I resent the judgement from just about everyone.  I am angry that I was so stupid and stubborn.  I am tired of hearing how breast is best, even on bottles of formula.  I get the point.  And it still didn't work out for me. 

    He is now happy and healthy and growing and thriving.  If I hadn't had formula to rely on, he'd be dead, so there's that.  

    Bloomberg is just a control freak I think, but this is obviously a sensitive topic to me.  



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    This kind of thing probably wouldn't have been on my radar 8 months ago.  When L was born, I was so intent on breastfeeding, and the message from EVERYONE that breast is best was very clear.  Too clear, to be honest.  I think that while the message that breast feeding is the optimal choice in most circumstances is a good one, shaming/forcing people to breastfeed is really just a crappy thing to do. 

    I spent my entire pregnancy focused on breastfeeding.  Every time I went to the doctor she mentioned how important it was.  My mother breastfed us for over a year each.  My MIL did the same.  In the hospital, everytime a nurse asked if I was going to breastfeed and I said yes, she'd say, "Good."  Not, "ok," not, "formula is always an option," nothing.  

    When I got home from the hospital with my darling baby, I was so intent on breastfeeding that I essentially starved him.  And even now I can barely even think about it without crying.  My baby ended up in the hospital at 5 days old severely dehydrated and jaundiced because I refused to give him any formula.  It was even sitting there in the closet, but I was SO AFRAID to use formula that I tried and tried to get him to latch, but even when he did I had hardly anything to give him.  I thought that giving formula would be giving up.  Even though I got samples in the mail and samples at the hospital, they didn't make me use formula.  It was sitting next to me but I still sat in that rocking chair crying and begging my baby to latch, stay awake long enough to eat, and on and on and on.

    I have spent the last 8 months feeling huge amounts of guilt and frustration over the whole thing.  I resent the judgement from just about everyone.  I am angry that I was so stupid and stubborn.  I am tired of hearing how breast is best, even on bottles of formula.  I get the point.  And it still didn't work out for me. 

    He is now happy and healthy and growing and thriving.  If I hadn't had formula to rely on, he'd be dead, so there's that.  

    Bloomberg is just a control freak I think, but this is obviously a sensitive topic to me.  

    hugs!

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    I would travel to a different hospital. We are still breastfeeding but nobody has the right to make me feel guilty for feeding my child.

    This.  That's a load of bull.  If he's going to do this, they better have multiple LC's on staff at all times available to each and every mom.  I had all intentions of BFing, but my son refused to latch, I didn't know what to do, and my hospital didn't have a LC.  The nurses were pro-BFing, but had no knowledge of how to help me.  I would've been devastated if I got a lecture each time I needed to try and feed my child.

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  •      Politicians and the like need to keep their nose out of my bedroom/anything that results from my bedroom activities. They need to give it a break.

       I will try to BF when I become a mom one day. I hope I am able to do it, that I have enough supply and that my LO is able to take my milk without issues like acid reflux or intolerance.  I don't need some over the top control freak, trying to guilt me into feeling like I'm a bad mother when all I want to do is do what is best for my little one.

    He really needs to take it down a notch.

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  • I FF from day one with DS because I just wasn't comfortable with BF and the lack of control with BF. I'm generally an anxious person and choosing to FF was one way to reduce the anxiety of being a new Mom. It's my choice how I feed my child who is a healthy, smart not over weight 3 yo. Would love it if we had a women mayor/governor/politician make decisions about a man's body that would not ever fly!
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  • @jsgrl613 here is a great blod that may help you relieve some of your guilt. Each Friday she has various women post and tell their stories about BF and FF. I wish I found this site when I was in the thick of it. https://www.fearlessformulafeeder.com/
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  • This makes me insane.  We made it 6 months EBF and then we were a combo up to 1 year.  I think it's great.  I'll admit that I internally side eye people who don't even try BF, but I would never say anything out loud because it's their right to feed their child in a way that works for them.  I hate that BF is such a guilt culture these days.

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    I FF from day one with DS because I just wasn't comfortable with BF and the lack of control with BF. I'm generally an anxious person and choosing to FF was one way to reduce the anxiety of being a new Mom. It's my choice how I feed my child who is a healthy, smart not over weight 3 yo. Would love it if we had a women mayor/governor/politician make decisions about a man's body that would not ever fly!

    And this is why my side eye stays internal.  The rational side of me knows that there are plenty of good reasons, like yours, to FF from the start.  I applaud you and the courage it took to make a good choice for you and your LO.

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  • We supplemented with formula for the first 3 weeks because my milk was slow to come in. Without it, C would have starved. I'm very pro bf but without the LC services at my disposal, I would have gone insane. 

    Only after he has tried to bf a baby can Bloomberg tell me how to feed my child.  

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    Only after he has tried to bf a baby can Bloomberg tell me how to feed my child.  

    Whole heartedly agree with this. 

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  • I also FF from day one.  The nurse asked me when he was on his way if I was going BF or FF.  I was scared of the judgement so I said I would do both.  I had every intention of doing FF.  She never judged me- she just brought me the bottles and helped me feed him.  I'm SO grateful to not have the judgement. 

    I didn't want to BF for various reasons but mostly I just didn't want to.  My son is also super healthy and happy and so am I.  I have wonderful memories from his early days of cuddling up and giving him a bottle.  No stressed terrible memories.  I decide what is best for me. I don't listen to politicians, or the size of the formula can/commercials.

    I may BF next time for solely selfish reasons- I hope it will help me lose the weight faster.  But I have no problem FF again.

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    imageDTNZ4Ever:
    I FF from day one with DS because I just wasn't comfortable with BF and the lack of control with BF. I'm generally an anxious person and choosing to FF was one way to reduce the anxiety of being a new Mom. It's my choice how I feed my child who is a healthy, smart not over weight 3 yo. Would love it if we had a women mayor/governor/politician make decisions about a man's body that would not ever fly!

    And this is why my side eye stays internal.  The rational side of me knows that there are plenty of good reasons, like yours, to FF from the start.  I applaud you and the courage it took to make a good choice for you and your LO.

    Thank you!
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    I WISH I could have breast fed my LO for longer than I was able to. I had to supplement almost right away and I had to completely stop when she was 2 mos old. I would hate to have to get a lecture just because I simply am not capable of breast feeding.

     

    Same here.  I practically EP'd the DS's first two months since he was in the NICU for one and would get tired when BFing.  I EP consistently, but he started eating more than I could make at around 3.5 months old.  Now he has 1/2 F & 1/2 BM in each bottle.

     

    Poor DS would starve if he could only have BM.

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  • The government just has no right to control these kinds of things.  I am pro brestfeeding, but I understand it is a choice.  Also, some mothers just have a really hard time breastfeeding.  The government has no business.

     

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  • imagefaupanda:
    I would travel to a different hospital. We are still breastfeeding but nobody has the right to make me feel guilty for feeding my child.

    For most, it's not that simple... you would have to make sure that you were not in any of the 5 boroughs, which is difficult. In order to get out of Bloomberg's reach you would have to leave the county. 

     Bloomberg just likes to control everything and put his nose into other people's business whether he knows/understands or not. He tried to do the same with education in the city also. It's quite irritating.

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  • I heard about this on the news---ridiculous.  I doubt it will ever pass but just the whole thought process is stupid!  Yes breast is best but formula is made for babies and is fine for them. We BFed with DD and will with LO but DD was born and 2 days later severely jaundiced.  We had to stay longer in the hospital and then go home on billi lights.  Until my milk came in we had to supplement formula to push fluids and then after I was able to pump and still supplement with breastmilk.  However, had we not had the formula at the hospital she would have been sick for a lot longer.  Later my supply tanked and I kept pumping/breastfeeding as long as I could but by 6 months we were solely on formula.  I would have loved to BF for longer but it didn't work out for us.  It was hard on me and would have been terrible if I got a lecture when trying to purchase formula.  What a jerk!
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