Baby Showers

This can't go on!!!

My mom is throwing a shower for me at her house this saturday. All my family and friends will be there. There is a few with kids, some that are pregnant, and some not. My grandma is a smoker and exactly the only one that smokes that was invited not on purpose just none of my family or friends smoke besides her. she is very rude and selfish and ignores my mom's no smoking signs on the door already and says it don't anything when my mom tells her to put the cig out. None of my friends want to be put in a smaller house with someone who smokes and refuses to go outside. So what should we do?? We have several people that have asthma too on top of this.
Colty Bug's Mommy

Re: This can't go on!!!

  • If she's that stubborn, take her cigarettes from her when she shows up.
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  • She would smack me for that. Plus cause a huge fight. It really does not take 5 seconds to walk out the door to go smoke. I have never understood this with her. I personally have asthma and she has been the reason on many accounts of why I end up in the hospital for 3 days.
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  • That's so rude of her! Have you had a heart to heart with her, asking her to not smoke before/during the shower because:

    1 - second hand smoke, pregnancy and children don't mix

    2 - You don't want your baby shower gifts to smell like smoke

    3 - Asthma

    If she doesn't care about any of those things, I'd tell her that if she can't check her cigs at the door, she can't walk through the door. Bottom line. 

  • Why are you around this woman when it makes you sick for 3 days???  Just don't invite her to the shower.  She can't come.

    I haven't been to my parents' house for years.  My pulmonologist and allergist both forbid it because of my father's incessant smoking (indoors).  I get a hotel when I visit and I meet them in public places where he can't smoke.  Are they happy about it?  Not in the least.  Am I willing to end up on prednisone and more inhalers to make them happy?  No.

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    That's so rude of her! Have you had a heart to heart with her, asking her to not smoke before/during the shower because:

    1 - second hand smoke, pregnancy and children don't mix

    2 - You don't want your baby shower gifts to smell like smoke

    3 - Asthma

    If she doesn't care about any of those things, I'd tell her that if she can't check her cigs at the door, she can't walk through the door. Bottom line. 

    All of this! I don't care who this person is, there would be no smoking.

  • imageSmileyGirl18:
    I would have your mother call her this week and tell her that if she intends to smoke, she can not come to the shower.  Plain and simple.  If she shows up, remind her that she can not smoke or she will be asked to leave infront of everyone.

    I agree with this.  I know you said she disregards your mom's wishes to not smoke in her house, but is that with just family there?  Do you think that she would still insist on smoking in front of a group of people that she may not know. 

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  • I have confronted her many times. My mom has too. Our covo about this gets heated now that I am pregnant and stand up for myself a little more. My mom and I had a problem with her like two weeks ago because we went on vacay and they only had a non smoking avaliable at the time and she refused to walk outside and smoke. She might just for a minute or two, but walk in to get something with it in her mouth or would catch us down at the car and we would come up with her inside puffing away. She thinks it hurts nothing and that you can get the smell out easy and it's not. I want her to come. I am just afraid I will tell her she cant smoke and 30 min later she lights it up in the house.
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    I have confronted her many times. My mom has too. Our covo about this gets heated now that I am pregnant and stand up for myself a little more. My mom and I had a problem with her like two weeks ago because we went on vacay and they only had a non smoking avaliable at the time and she refused to walk outside and smoke. She might just for a minute or two, but walk in to get something with it in her mouth or would catch us down at the car and we would come up with her inside puffing away. She thinks it hurts nothing and that you can get the smell out easy and it's not. I want her to come. I am just afraid I will tell her she cant smoke and 30 min later she lights it up in the house.

    If she still lights up, I'd either publically ask her to put out the cigarette or I'd open a window near her and blast her with a few fans.  Can you have the shower be outside?

    You sound like your super nice but don't be a doormat here.  She is being so disrespectful. 

    Honestly, if I were your friend and shower guest and your grandma started smoking in the house, I'd probably ask her to take it outside.  If a stranger asked her to take it outside would she be more receptive?  Do you have a bold friend or two who can come to the rescue? 

  • She does not care about others opinions. She is very selfish, I love her, but it's true. She is a tell it that way she sees it. Don't give a crap kind of person. I don't even want to get started on when LO gets here. I just know she has no respect for anyone. Does not matter how little you are.
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    She does not care about others opinions. She is very selfish, I love her, but it's true. She is a tell it that way she sees it. Don't give a crap kind of person. I don't even want to get started on when LO gets here. I just know she has no respect for anyone. Does not matter how little you are.

    If she is going to smoke no matter what anyone says I would not allow her in my home. Not now and especially not after LO is born. From the sound of it I'm not sure I'd want to be around her at all anyway.

  • I'm afraid it's too hot. I would not mind if it's not to the point where everyone is bout to toast. the shower is 1-3 and the weather is supposed to be in mid 90's. I just want all my friends and family happy and to be able to celebrate a LO coming to the family. I don't really care about me. It's my friends and family I care. I am 18 years old and my friends are too. we all feel we have no authority to tell her what to do. I metion that I can't breathe and I would like it if she would put it out, but never have I confronted her in a demanding matter and told her to put it out. 
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  • I will call her and tell her she cant smoke at my baby shower and name a few reasons and tell her if she can't respect it then she will be ask to leave. I hope this works.
    Colty Bug's Mommy
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    imageFaith 21:
    I'm afraid it's too hot. I would not mind if it's not to the point where everyone is bout to toast. the shower is 1-3 and the weather is supposed to be in mid 90's. I just want all my friends and family happy and to be able to celebrate a LO coming to the family. I don't really care about me. It's my friends and family I care. I am 18 years old and my friends are too. we all feel we have no authority to tell her what to do. I metion that I can't breathe and I would like it if she would put it out, but never have I confronted her in a demanding matter and told her to put it out. 

    Even if you don't care about yourself, think of you LO and don't allow yourself to be around second hand smoke. 

    Ditto this.  And you may be 18 but you're an adult and a mom.  We should all respect our elders but the respect has to be mutual.  In this case, it isn't mutual. You don't have to be a b*tch to grandma but you shoudl be firm with her on this issue.

  • This makes me feel better. I just don't want to overstep myself as her 18 year old grandaughter. I am probably one of the most sweetest people you will meet and have trouble sometimes with trying to find my place, but letting people know how I feel.
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  • As a former smoker, I can certainly understand the need to smoke or the anxiety when you cannot smoke. However, never in a million years would I dare light up a cigarette in someone's home without an invitation to do so. And only if they were smokers themselves. 

    She can politely excuse herself to go outside and smoke or she can not smoke at all. Her choice. No other options.

    Maybe when she arrives, you show her the designated smoking area outside. Maybe put an ashtray and a fan out there so she will be more comfortable.  

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  • I'm reading all your updates and I'm really not sure why you're expecting ANY rational response from her.  You'll call her?  She'll still come.  You ask her to leave?  She'll laugh and say "no".  You don't let her in?  SHe'll walk right past you.

    It's CLEAR that this is what will happen.

    So I agree- take her cigarettes from her. She smacks you?  Yell out "ouch!  Why did you hit me???".    It starts an arguement?  SO WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

    Cripes- this woman has ALL the power because of exactly this - no one will REALLY do anything.  Because "OH!  She'll get mad". Well, no $hit. 

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  • imageSmileyGirl18:
    I would have your mother call her this week and tell her that if she intends to smoke, she can not come to the shower.  Plain and simple.  If she shows up, remind her that she can not smoke or she will be asked to leave infront of everyone.

    This. And if she does show up have someone ready to escort her out if needed. Put your foot down, this is about you AND your baby's health. She doesn't have the right to endanger your baby.

    On a side note, if I had a family member or friend so inconsiderate they would be cut off. No one gets to f*ck with my baby's well being.  

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    I would have your mother call her this week and tell her that if she intends to smoke, she can not come to the shower.  Plain and simple.  If she shows up, remind her that she can not smoke or she will be asked to leave infront of everyone.

    Exactly this. It may cause a fight but the health of your baby, and everyone else at the shower, is more important!

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  • Talked to my mom. Told her she needed to call that she is not allowed to smoke inside, if she wants to smoke do it outside or she can not come. She said she will so now I am leaving it up to my host, mom, to handle calling. I will take control if she shows up and smokes anyways. Guess this is the best way to handle it.
    Colty Bug's Mommy
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    imageFaith 21:
    she is very rude and selfish and ignores my mom's no smoking signs on the door already and says it don't anything when my mom tells her to put the cig out.

    This is code for "we LET her walk all over us." Put up or shut up. Either you stand up for yourself and guests or you let her continue walking all over you. Don't back down because you don't want to cause a scene. When your mom says no smoking and she does it anyway, she needs to be asked to leave. If she refuses to leave, you call the cops. You've let it go on this long, so she thinks you're making empty threats. So stop making empty threats. I agree with PPs that you need to make this clear before the shower or disinvite her, but if you still want her there, you need to be prepared to stick to your guns.

    This. OP, you have gotten so much good advice already on here, and yet, you seem to still be sticking up for her or complaining about her. We get that you don't want her to smoke, but you need to make a decision: either put up with the smoke in the house, or tell her to leave (if she doesn't, call the cops like this PP said). Woman up.

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    I'm reading all your updates and I'm really not sure why you're expecting ANY rational response from her.  You'll call her?  She'll still come.  You ask her to leave?  She'll laugh and say "no".  You don't let her in?  SHe'll walk right past you.

    It's CLEAR that this is what will happen.

    So I agree- take her cigarettes from her. She smacks you?  Yell out "ouch!  Why did you hit me???".    It starts an arguement?  SO WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

    Cripes- this woman has ALL the power because of exactly this - no one will REALLY do anything.  Because "OH!  She'll get mad". Well, no $hit. 

    And this. 

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  • I just said that my mom is calling her. I'm doing what the others said to do.
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  • I know you're only 18 and that she's your grandmother, but your health and the health of your unborn child is by far and away more important than whether or not she gets all butt-hurt and feels disrespected when you stand up and say no.

    I'm glad your mother is telling her no smoking or she'll need to leave, but it doesn't sound like it'll be enough. I'd go ahead and prepare for a scene. I wouldn't even give her the opportunity to light up in the house--like a pp mentioned, I'd have her check the cigs and lighter at the door before she enters. If she still manages to somehow light up in the house, take it away from her and put it out. If she gets mad, so what; let her. I'm sure you wouldn't be the first person to piss her off, and I highly doubt you'll be the last. She'll live.

  • If you feel that strongly, don't allow her in. 
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    I'm a little late to the conversation but if she refuses to listen to anyone about the no smoking indoors and does it anyway she would not be invited and if she showed up anyway I would not let her in. But maybe I am just a b!tch. 
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  • I'll tell you something that I wish someone told me as a young mom. I was taught to respect my elders, my aunt came up to me one day and told me that I should respect them, but that they should be respecting me as well. And that doesn't mean letting them walk all over you.

    If she wasn't family, would you tolerate her bad behaviour? Probably not. There are rules in that household, and if she can't abide by them, she doesn't need to be there. Being family doesn't excuse sh!tty behavior. 18 is old enough to tell her to butt out. And you can do it without being up in her face. Good luck.

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    I'm reading all your updates and I'm really not sure why you're expecting ANY rational response from her.  You'll call her?  She'll still come.  You ask her to leave?  She'll laugh and say "no".  You don't let her in?  SHe'll walk right past you.

    It's CLEAR that this is what will happen.

    So I agree- take her cigarettes from her. She smacks you?  Yell out "ouch!  Why did you hit me???".    It starts an arguement?  SO WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

    Cripes- this woman has ALL the power because of exactly this - no one will REALLY do anything.  Because "OH!  She'll get mad". Well, no $hit. 

    This...a zillion times!!!!

    Be prepared for a scene...there will be one.  Just because your mom is going to "talk to her" doesn't mean crap.  Your mother has talked to her before and she just does what she wants.  Unless this woman is like 90 years old then she can't be stupid...she knows very well what smoking does to kids, people with asthma and other health issues, etc.  It's not like she lives under a rock.  Obviously she has had her way for a looooong time.  Time she got put in her place...regardless of where she "sits" in the family dynamics.

  • If she light's up tell her to put it out of leave.  She is putting your health, and all the others at risk and no kid or pregnant woman needs to be subject to that.  I say NO tolerance to that.  She needs to pull the stick out of her ass and realize the world does not revolve around her.  Also, your mom needs to put on big girl pants and tell her that it's not tolerated in her house.  Her house, her rules.
  • You could always see her light up and announce that the party is moving inside/outside (depending on where she is).  You could loudly state "Since it's no longer for me to be safe in here due to X smoking, I will be moving outside/inside". 

     

    Other than that, I ditto ECB.  Grow a pair and put your foot down or stop whining about it. 

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  • Whoever is hosting the party has the power here. They ask her to step outside to smoke, or leave. She can pitch a fit all she wants to the host. I would definitely be willing to be the "bad guy" and put granny in her place. She's the exception--kick her @$$ out (or don't even let her in) if she can't respect the space she's in.

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    You could always see her light up and announce that the party is moving inside/outside (depending on where she is).  You could loudly state "Since it's no longer for me to be safe in here due to X smoking, I will be moving outside/inside". 

    I see your point, but I think that's giving this woman even more power.  It could also lead to a lot of people moving in and out several times, and that's not fun for anyone - kind of bringing all the shower guests into an internal family battle.

    As I said before, I've had to handle this issue with my parents.  It's not easy, it's not fun, and there was resentment for a few years.  This battle needs to be fought and won, but a baby shower is not a great battleground.

  • imageEstwd2:

    This is code for "we LET her walk all over us." Put up or shut up. Either you stand up for yourself and guests or you let her continue walking all over you. Don't back down because you don't want to cause a scene. When your mom says no smoking and she does it anyway, she needs to be asked to leave. If she refuses to leave, you call the cops. You've let it go on this long, so she thinks you're making empty threats. So stop making empty threats. I agree with PPs that you need to make this clear before the shower or disinvite her, but if you still want her there, you need to be prepared to stick to your guns.

     

    This. I'm 20 years old. And in my opinion, by the age of 18 you are an adult. If you chose to make adult decisions and partake in adult activities like (in my case) getting married and having children, then you should conduct yourself as a mature adult. The fact that you value respect of others, and take into consideration the comfort and well being of your guests and those around you implies that in every other area of life, you do conduct yourself responsibly. However, regardless of age, people who don't deserve respect, shouldn't get it. Point blank. If an 18 year old can show decency and respect, then an 80 year old women sure as h** can too. You are an adult, and you have every right to stand up for yourself and your child, and others around you. 

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  • OP, you have to come back and tell us how the shower was and if granny was on her best behavior or if she was trying to light up in the middle of the shower. 

    See, this is what happens, we never get follow-up stories.

    I hope you had a nice shower.  

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    OP, you have to come back and tell us how the shower was and if granny was on her best behavior or if she was trying to light up in the middle of the shower. 

    See, this is what happens, we never get follow-up stories.

    I hope you had a nice shower.  

    This! I want the follow up! 

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