Pregnant after 35

XP: Not doing Nuchal Translucency

My husband and I have decided against having the Nuchal translucency test Anyone else choose not to do it? Which would also mean we aren't going going to have the level 2 ultrasound. I will be 36 when I deliver, but I feel like the results won't change things for us beside make me worry for 7 months if the results were positive.

Re: XP: Not doing Nuchal Translucency

  • There's a post about this below that has some great repsonses.

     

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  • as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

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    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

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    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    me - 41 (dx: DOR); DH - 53 (no problems); 7/18/09 - married!; 8/4/09 - BFP on first (real)try; 9/14/09 - missed m/c; 9/15/09 - d&c; 11/09 - 3/10 - 4 natural cycles = BFN; 4/10 - dx hyperthyroidism caused by Graves' disease; 6/10 - thyroidectomy; 7/10 - 12/10 - 1 natural and 5 medicated IUI cycles = BFN; 1/11 - new RE; dx low ovarian reserve (AMH .42; 1/26/11 -- BFP (ectopic) from IUI #6; methotrexate 2/10/11; 6/2/11 - IVF #1 = BFN; 9/12/11 - prescreening for DE; 9/15/11 - IUI #7 (unmedicated)= BFN; 11/8 - begin DE cycle (shared risk program); 12/5 - ER (5 eggs/4 mature/3 fertilized/2 left by day 5) 12/10 - ET of one 1BB blast (expanded, "fair" quality), none to freeze; 12/22 - totally shocked by +hpt; beta #1 = 413; #2 = 3952 2/14 - CVS reveals a healthy baby girl! EDD: 8/27/12 DD born 8/31/12, 10 lbs 10 oz and perfect in every way. 
  • I have never had an NT scan until this pregnancy (#7) - right before I turned 41.

    The only reason I did this time is because I developed GD REALLY early & after having a friend lose her daughter from birth defects caused by high blood sugars (she's type 1), I wanted to be aware of any structural damage I may have caused - and have a plan in place for delivery & neo-natal care if there were any defects found.

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    imagestever:
    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    FTR, these kinds of comments drive me crazy. 

    Knowledge is not power for everyone. Too much information can be anxiety overload for some people. Not everyone needs or wants to "be informed" that early. Processing and learning and healing at your own pace does not make someone a bad parent.   

    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • imageMelleTX:
    imagelhcooper:
    imagestever:
    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    FTR, these kinds of comments drive me crazy. 

    Knowledge is not power for everyone. Too much information can be anxiety overload for some people. Not everyone needs or wants to "be informed" that early. Processing and learning and healing at your own pace does not make someone a bad parent.   

    I hear you, Melle, but the NT scan can only be done at a certain point in time. I guess I'm more reacting to not having any ultrasounds done at all, when they are available, which is the direction the OP seems to suggest she might be going in. There are potential defects -- heart problems, kidney problems, etc -- that can be prepared for in advance, with the proper team of doctors ready to go. I'm not talking about healing from knowing your baby has a terminal abnormality, but rather being really ready if there is something that can and should be dealt with if possible upon birth. For some people, that means choosing a different hospital, etc. I'm sorry, but I do think that's responsible parenting, and that it's worth anxiety to have a scan and learn what you can, since you can, insurance/financial resources permitting, of course (I am aware that not everyone's policies permit these things, unfortunately). 

    me - 41 (dx: DOR); DH - 53 (no problems); 7/18/09 - married!; 8/4/09 - BFP on first (real)try; 9/14/09 - missed m/c; 9/15/09 - d&c; 11/09 - 3/10 - 4 natural cycles = BFN; 4/10 - dx hyperthyroidism caused by Graves' disease; 6/10 - thyroidectomy; 7/10 - 12/10 - 1 natural and 5 medicated IUI cycles = BFN; 1/11 - new RE; dx low ovarian reserve (AMH .42; 1/26/11 -- BFP (ectopic) from IUI #6; methotrexate 2/10/11; 6/2/11 - IVF #1 = BFN; 9/12/11 - prescreening for DE; 9/15/11 - IUI #7 (unmedicated)= BFN; 11/8 - begin DE cycle (shared risk program); 12/5 - ER (5 eggs/4 mature/3 fertilized/2 left by day 5) 12/10 - ET of one 1BB blast (expanded, "fair" quality), none to freeze; 12/22 - totally shocked by +hpt; beta #1 = 413; #2 = 3952 2/14 - CVS reveals a healthy baby girl! EDD: 8/27/12 DD born 8/31/12, 10 lbs 10 oz and perfect in every way. 
  • steverstever member
    imagebvandalsen:
    imageMelleTX:
    imagelhcooper:
    imagestever:
    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    FTR, these kinds of comments drive me crazy. 

    Knowledge is not power for everyone. Too much information can be anxiety overload for some people. Not everyone needs or wants to "be informed" that early. Processing and learning and healing at your own pace does not make someone a bad parent.   

    I totally agree. I passed on this test, also- because I don't need to know. I will love this child, regardless, and be the best mother I can be either way. I will not spend this entire pregnancy stressed out over something I can not change. 

     Your comnment reads as: "Women who pass on this test = angels who love their kids more. Women who get tested = Heartless cows who see their babies as expendable." Not cool.

    Like Benoitfan said, it's about being prepared, not about terminating. And the reason these posts drive me nuts isn't because I'm terribly bothered by what choices other women make in their pregnancies it's the self-righteous, holier than thou tone they take on.

  • imagestever:
    imagebvandalsen:
    imageMelleTX:
    imagelhcooper:
    imagestever:
    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    FTR, these kinds of comments drive me crazy. 

    Knowledge is not power for everyone. Too much information can be anxiety overload for some people. Not everyone needs or wants to "be informed" that early. Processing and learning and healing at your own pace does not make someone a bad parent.   

    I totally agree. I passed on this test, also- because I don't need to know. I will love this child, regardless, and be the best mother I can be either way. I will not spend this entire pregnancy stressed out over something I can not change. 

     Your comnment reads as: "Women who pass on this test = angels who love their kids more. Women who get tested = Heartless cows who see their babies as expendable." Not cool.

    Like Benoitfan said, it's about being prepared, not about terminating. And the reason these posts drive me nuts isn't because I'm terribly bothered by what choices other women make in their pregnancies it's the self-righteous, holier than thou tone they take on.

    I could see how you could feel a holier than thou tone with some statements however those of us on the other side feel that way as well.  When a comment is made saying we are making choices to be uninformed parents and we are not choosing what is in the best interest of the baby, that just flips the coins.  Then we read comments that insinuate "Women who pass on test = Selfish cows.  Women who get tested = angels who love their kids more."  It boils down to, we both feel very passionately about our opinions and it doesn't help to ridicule each other.

    Sometimes knowledge is not power.  Sometime knowledge is just knowledge.  The knowledge that my little girl had a SUA and there was nothing we could do didn't help me a bit.  

    Sometimes the information gathered from an NT scan gives us, good information we need and will help us with labor and delivery.  Sometimes the scan just gives us information that we hold onto for weeks or months waiting for the inevitable. Ultimately it is their decision to make and they just need support!!

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  • imageSmileyGirl18:
    imagelhcooper:
    imageMelleTX:
    imagelhcooper:
    imagestever:
    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    FTR, these kinds of comments drive me crazy. 

    Knowledge is not power for everyone. Too much information can be anxiety overload for some people. Not everyone needs or wants to "be informed" that early. Processing and learning and healing at your own pace does not make someone a bad parent.   

    I hear you, Melle, but the NT scan can only be done at a certain point in time. I guess I'm more reacting to not having any ultrasounds done at all, when they are available, which is the direction the OP seems to suggest she might be going in. There are potential defects -- heart problems, kidney problems, etc -- that can be prepared for in advance, with the proper team of doctors ready to go. I'm not talking about healing from knowing your baby has a terminal abnormality, but rather being really ready if there is something that can and should be dealt with if possible upon birth. For some people, that means choosing a different hospital, etc. I'm sorry, but I do think that's responsible parenting, and that it's worth anxiety to have a scan and learn what you can, since you can, insurance/financial resources permitting, of course (I am aware that not everyone's policies permit these things, unfortunately). 

     

    This! 

    Which is why, on the other thread and every time this comes up, I always state that the major reason I decline is because this is a twin pregnancy, I am already very closely monitored with ultrasounds every 4 weeks - which I pay 100% OOP for because prenatal care is not an insurance mandate in Texas. I am also delivering at a hospital with a level IIIc NICU.  

    I also note in all my responses that it is NOT about the choice to terminate or not. I have views about why i would or would not terminate a pregnancy that went right out the window when this became about twins.

    That said, there is nothing I can learn through the NT scan that would not be caught by the 12 other ultrasounds I am scheduled to get during this pregnancy. Obviously some things could be missed. But as I told my Dr, unless it will change the way you manage this pregnancy, I don't want to know. I don't need to know. 

    And I don't think it makes me irresponsible for not wanting to "be prepared". Some women NEED that knowledge. They would break down without it. Others cannot handle the anxiety it brings. I am really neither, I just have a strong opinion about how I want to manage this pregnancy, however I always defer to my Dr for the final word, but in this case, she agrees with me.

    Single Mother by Choice. Life didn't work out the way I planned so I did it on my own. IUI #s 1-3, unmedicated = BFN, IUI #s 4-6, 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel = BFN IVF #1: 23R, 20M, 17F. 5 day transfer 2 blasts. 2 Snowbabies BFP 6dp5dt, Beta #1 7dp5dt = 58, Beta #2 9dp5dt = 114, Beta #3 10dp5dt = 187 1st Ultrasound = 5/3, not much to see yet. 2nd Ultrasound = 5/17, TWINS!!! Hospital Bed Rest at 32 weeks due to pre-ecclampsia and severe edema. Audrey Grace, 5lbs9oz, & Lydia Louise, 6lbs, born via emergency c-section on 12/6/12 at 36w1d My IVF Journey
  • imageMelleTX:
    imageSmileyGirl18:
    imagelhcooper:
    imageMelleTX:
    imagelhcooper:
    imagestever:
    imagebenoitfan:

    as pp said, there is a thread about this below.  here is the link:

    https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/67269570.aspx

    There is some valuable informaton in there to consider when you make your decision (it's not all about termination, but about delivery and care at delivery too).

    This.

    And FTR, these posts drive me crazy. Knowledge is power.

    I totally agree. I understand not terminating, but I don't understand not wanting to be an informed parent, which can only be in your baby's best interest. 

    FTR, these kinds of comments drive me crazy. 

    Knowledge is not power for everyone. Too much information can be anxiety overload for some people. Not everyone needs or wants to "be informed" that early. Processing and learning and healing at your own pace does not make someone a bad parent.   

    I hear you, Melle, but the NT scan can only be done at a certain point in time. I guess I'm more reacting to not having any ultrasounds done at all, when they are available, which is the direction the OP seems to suggest she might be going in. There are potential defects -- heart problems, kidney problems, etc -- that can be prepared for in advance, with the proper team of doctors ready to go. I'm not talking about healing from knowing your baby has a terminal abnormality, but rather being really ready if there is something that can and should be dealt with if possible upon birth. For some people, that means choosing a different hospital, etc. I'm sorry, but I do think that's responsible parenting, and that it's worth anxiety to have a scan and learn what you can, since you can, insurance/financial resources permitting, of course (I am aware that not everyone's policies permit these things, unfortunately). 

     

    This! 

    Which is why, on the other thread and every time this comes up, I always state that the major reason I decline is because this is a twin pregnancy, I am already very closely monitored with ultrasounds every 4 weeks - which I pay 100% OOP for because prenatal care is not an insurance mandate in Texas. I am also delivering at a hospital with a level IIIc NICU.  

    I also note in all my responses that it is NOT about the choice to terminate or not. I have views about why i would or would not terminate a pregnancy that went right out the window when this became about twins.

    That said, there is nothing I can learn through the NT scan that would not be caught by the 12 other ultrasounds I am scheduled to get during this pregnancy. Obviously some things could be missed. But as I told my Dr, unless it will change the way you manage this pregnancy, I don't want to know. I don't need to know. 

    And I don't think it makes me irresponsible for not wanting to "be prepared". Some women NEED that knowledge. They would break down without it. Others cannot handle the anxiety it brings. I am really neither, I just have a strong opinion about how I want to manage this pregnancy, however I always defer to my Dr for the final word, but in this case, she agrees with me.

    Melle, just to be clear: my response wasn't directed to your specific situation and more to the OP's and others of that sort. I already saw your post on another board about all your monitoring--guess I should have said that, since your decisions seem perfectly reasonable to me.  And ultimately, yes, these are all very personal decisions. The problem for me is simply the general thought that I myself wouldn't be able to bear going through a pregnancy thinking my baby was healthy, imagining his/her future, and then having to do an about-face -- and potentially make very complex medical decisions -- right after going through the incredibly exhausting experience of labor. I have a hard time seeing how that's in anyone's best interest, but I guess some are able to.

    me - 41 (dx: DOR); DH - 53 (no problems); 7/18/09 - married!; 8/4/09 - BFP on first (real)try; 9/14/09 - missed m/c; 9/15/09 - d&c; 11/09 - 3/10 - 4 natural cycles = BFN; 4/10 - dx hyperthyroidism caused by Graves' disease; 6/10 - thyroidectomy; 7/10 - 12/10 - 1 natural and 5 medicated IUI cycles = BFN; 1/11 - new RE; dx low ovarian reserve (AMH .42; 1/26/11 -- BFP (ectopic) from IUI #6; methotrexate 2/10/11; 6/2/11 - IVF #1 = BFN; 9/12/11 - prescreening for DE; 9/15/11 - IUI #7 (unmedicated)= BFN; 11/8 - begin DE cycle (shared risk program); 12/5 - ER (5 eggs/4 mature/3 fertilized/2 left by day 5) 12/10 - ET of one 1BB blast (expanded, "fair" quality), none to freeze; 12/22 - totally shocked by +hpt; beta #1 = 413; #2 = 3952 2/14 - CVS reveals a healthy baby girl! EDD: 8/27/12 DD born 8/31/12, 10 lbs 10 oz and perfect in every way. 
  • I understand. I didn't do any of that stuff when I had my last baby at 34 but now I am 40 which is a big difference and with the risks so much higher I think I just want to know. It definitely would not change the outcome. Termination is not an option for us but if there is a problem I feel I need the time to mentaly prepare for a different scenario than what I have planned now. You have to do what is right for you.
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  • I am 36 also.  My Ob , DH, and I had a lengthy convo about the NT scan.  We opted not to do it and are fine with that.  Opinions, as expected, will vary. You have to go with your gut feel...
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  • I passed on the test as well. It is not diagnostic and didn't need another reason to worry. I discussed it with my doctor and there is much that be determined at the anatomy scan. If there is a need further testing can be done.

  • I'd want to get in touch with support groups and other parents with special needs children in order to be as prepared as possible when my child was born. I had my test and thankfully all was well. I had considered not doing it because I knew it wouldn't make a difference but then realized that I'd really like to have a support system in place when baby's born so I went ahead with all of the testing.
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