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December 2010 Moms
Cheekers2010
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I had no idea that using a stroller is controversial
Cheekers2010
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https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/67222956/ShowThread.aspx#67222956
Seriously. Color me amazed. Not to mention all the other ridiculousness in that thread. But, honestly, I use the stroller in the mall or for long walks or at Sea World. I've never thought this was restrictive. G gets plenty of time to run and play.
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Re: I had no idea that using a stroller is controversial
I didn't finish the whole thread cuz it was just crazy...but I agree with you.
My kid loves going on stroller rides around the neighborhood. In the mornings if I say "Let's go for a walk - where is the stroller?" Then both my toddler and my dog go running for the stroller.
Yes toddlers like to run around and explore - but is it so crazy to think that maybe a kid might like a 15-30 min break to just chill out and have a snack while getting to check everything out around them?
Another one of those parenting things that is all about moderation and balance. Just like when people say jumpers/walkers are bad for babies - yes, if they are just stuck in them for 8 hours a day. Just like TV - bad if you use it as a babysitter for 8 hours a day, but 30 mins here or there isn't going to make your kid go any more brain dead than sticking them in the stroller at the mall where they zone out for a bit.
"I hate leashes because they look inhumane and I feel like there is more of a chance of the kid getting hurt if the parent gets angry (and most of the parents I've seen using leashes are the irresponsible and full of attitude kind)."
Um...that is so over the top.
Also, just because I also have a choke-chain on my kid's leash, I'm suddenly a bad parent??? pshaw. Kid needs to learn manners.
ETA: I'm getting further into that thread and it's so BSC, I'm going to slowly back away.
Yeah, I was reading that too! I think she said something about tearing her butt up. She give girls named Amber a bad name... Now that's 2 Amber's that I'm guilty by association.
ETA: Never mind that was a different thread on step-kids... this is why I'm better at lurking! I can't get my dramaz straight!
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Yeah, I just finished that thread. Holy Sh!t.
One time I grabbed A's arm out of anger/frustration (he was about to run into one of those mall thingies that security guards ride and was giving me a hard time all day). I definitely grabbed too hard. The look on his face made me want to kill myself. I can't imagine making that your actual form of discipline. I still feel ashamed that I did that.
I must be the worst parent EVER! For me to walk to DC (I dont have a driverslisence, and the bus does not allways fit my schedual(?) ) takes between 40-60 mins - whereas LO sits in the stroller the whole time. Also I use the stroller for groceries, so he sits in his stroller between 45 and 120 min's a day (obiously not in one turn - he walks around in the store and we take breakes along the way so he can strech his legs).
On top of that we sometimes has Mommy-Jacob days where we put on our (read: his) favourite movies and eat lunch in the livingroom and play infront of the TV - all while wearing our jammies..
I dont really feel bad about this though.. Because maybe it is not wery physical but it is more than a lot social - wich I value just as much!
Sure, since I just copied and pasted..
https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/67222956/ShowThread.aspx#67222956
I must be terrible, I LOVE the stroller and DS doesn't seem to care about it one way or the other. He's never thrown a fit when I drag it out... I seriously considered getting a "kid leash" the other day too. The little squirt is getting fast and likes to be independent now. I bet these people are against baby gates too...
I didn't finish reading it all to see the hitting thing, but awful.
::BIGGEST EYE ROLL EVER::
You've got to pick your battles, and this is one I have no interest in.
eta: The lady who spanks her toddler for looking at her with attitude is messed up.
I read the whole dang thing. I don't plan to return. I'd think that if that many people were vehemently disagreeing with me, I may start to think, "Ok, maybe I'm the one that's wrong." Clearly that is not the case with this peach.
Yes. Sorry it wasn't a clicky, I was on my phone.
And, I'm not even touching the crazy of the hitting lady. Just the whole stroller thing.
I started to read that thread and I just couldn't get through it.
I think there are times for a stroller and there are times for a leash.
Wow! I only got through page 2 and there's already 8 so I won't finish but that lady is BSC! My only consolation is that she'll have three kids soon which economically means she'll probably need stay at home instead of continuing to teach other people's kids.
I was raised and still live in the south and know exactly one person that spanks. To me, "popping" and "spanking" are nice words for hitting. I just can't do it. DH and I were both spanked as children and have bad memories of it. I won't do the same to C. Also, we spend 30-45 minutes a day using the stroller during our family evening walks AND we had a harness. Guess I wouldn't count as a real southerner to that chick. But I like grits so I still count right, right!?
Nope. Start calling it polenta and consider yourself an East Coast Eye-talian like all the cool kids.
Just stupid. Why must people draw lines in the sand when there is zero need. If it is not harming the child or illegal, why do people care what someone else does with their child.
Ugh, there is so much stupid in that thread it's amazing. I hate to sound like a typical beebee poster saying "you don't know my life" but seriously, if you think you can assess a mother and her parenting style just by looking at her for 30 seconds in the shopping mall, you're an idiot. There's a time and a place for all different kinds of parenting tools, and the idea that my kid doesn't get exercise or attention because you saw him sitting in a stroller for a matter of seconds is just absurd.
My kid's favorite thing is to push the stroller or the shopping cart. Wonder what they'd think of that.
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I did for the record post this in the topic:
I am SO frustrated and emotional rigth now! We luckily have a LAW in Norway against spanking/hitting/psykological abuse.
haha yeah, I read like 2 pages this morning just laughing my way through. There were already 5 pages at that point.
Thanks for nothing for getting me sucked into reading much of that idiotic thread!!
The initial post was actually very interesting to me. I had never thought of strollers being in many ways equivalent to leashes and now I see the similarities.
For the record, I am someone who has never had any problems with people using strollers except when an older kid who can walk is using one for short distances for seemingly no reason. I think that kind of promotes the whole obesity thing in our country. Kids should learn to freaking walk and get some exercise. But I think an 18 mo in a stroller is pretty much always acceptable ('cause they are super unpredictable when walking and they can't always walk more than a few blocks without tiring anyway.) I'm talking more the 4+ yr olds.
I did used to be someone who judged leashes, until I had a toddler and thought about it more. We don't have one yet, but I say yet because DS is a crazy runner and I really think we ought to get one. I do see how they can be actually more liberating than a stroller and I like that. But I think that holding hands should be encouraged foremost (DS still mostly doesn't get that, but we're working on it.)
I think it's pretty crazy for people to get too worked up or judgy about parents using or not using strollers or leashes (though I do still judge about older kids using them! haha) And I think that whole spanking thing was insane. I am mostly against spanking but I don't judge people who do it a tiny bit. I do judge people who do that and who then say it's the ONLY way to discipline. Ridiculous. No, it's probably one of the least effective ways to discipline....
One other thing I wanted to mention from that thread was the South bashing. I am a northeasterner through and through so I understand the urge, but my parents are from the South and I think it's really obnoxious to bash that region for no reason. It sucks when there is one loser giving the region a bad name...but that doesn't mean everyone from there should be insulted just because she sucks so much.
Thank you! It seems to be very much in fashion on certain boards to bash on the South, and I'm totally sick of it.
Can you see my eyes rolling from here?
This is dumb. So I should just let DD run around like a crazy lady when we're in a shopping center? DD gets plenty of exercise, but not when we're at a mall or a shopping center. It's hard to keep an eye on a toddler while getting ANYTHING else done, as we all know.
I especially roll my eyes at the FTMs on there who feel this way. Good luck with that, ladies! FWIW I wore DD a lot when she was little but I don't want to carry a 20lb kid around every time I want to buy a pair of shoes and I certainly don't want to chase her around a sidewalk when there are cars nearby.
I've just started reading this, but I think it is sad that people are judging moms who use things like leashes and strollers who have kids who dart. This story just happened recently in our area and I'm sure if this happened to the high and mighty judgey moms they would rethink safety.
https://www.ksdk.com/news/article/321983/3/3-year-old-dies-after-being-struck-by-car-in-South-St-Louis-County?odyssey=tab|topnews|bc|large
I, personally, don't use the stroller with P much. We have her walk, or use the backpack carrier. She's a good handholder though. And I do use the stroller if we go for longer walks. So far, anyway. She's bolted in parking lots twice now, luckily in a small lot with no oncoming cars. We will see what happens when things change again.
However, I'm team do what works for you to keep your kids safe & happy.
Yeah. All of this!
I don't understand why a stroller is inhumane. Landon loves his. He is very active around the house, but when we go to the mall or amusement park, he can take a break and sit down. He always puts his feet up on the tray and enjoys a snack or some milk. He gets to look at everything around him and is always in a great mood in his stroller. Granted, sometimes they might be used "incorrectly," like if your child is freaking out and wants to be out of the stroller, but you force them to stay in it because of convenience.
I used to think the leashes were terrible, but here's the thing. It's not the "leash" that's the problem... it's the way I see them used. I used to work at the mall, and I would see parents sitting down on a bench, on their cell phones or snacking, with the kids running around. The parents would yank on the leash if the kid was getting too crazy, and I see that as potentially harmful. I definitely don't agree with that, but I do understand using them for children who like to walk. DH and I are both taller, so to try to hold DS's hands would mean we would be leaning over all the time.
This post has made me consider the harness/leash, has made me wonder why the flubberducker strollers are controversial, and has gotten me really mad at people who think you should hit a toddler because they look at you wrong.