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chocopotamus
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Something else to flame
chocopotamus
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My son used a drop side crib *gasp!* right up until about 2 weeks ago, and lives to yell at me another day.
And if that didn't upset you...I will probably use it again if we have another.
Honestly it was super sturdy and I barely ever used the actual drop side. Plus we have the conversion kit to switch it before the next bebe.
Ready....and...GO!
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Meh.
I'm just about as upset about the dropside crib banning as I am about the cold medicine banning. While no rdeath is EVER okay, most of the deaths from drop-side crib malfunction (and cold medicine overdosing) were from people who were doing it wrong.
If that's how we want to live, we should ban cars because some douchebag cut across 2 lanes to turn in front of me today.
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This. If you could only recall stupidity.
We did exactly the same thing.
DS is still sleeping in his drop side crib. I actually put the side down quite often. I'm short and have hernia isssues, so its difficult to put this gigantor down without straining my core. I'm so glad we got one of the last ones before the ban. I'm willing to bet he's going to brag about surviving the crib guillotine to his buddies in high school one day. Lone-sleeping, formula-sippin and drop-side-cribbin builds character.
And with that, I give in to the new TB locale. I lose.
YIKES! Just now? Did this happen in the 1950's all the way through the early 2000's too?! How are humans not on the endangered species list yet?
Damn it, I almost finished my 1 book for the summer quota...now I'm here.
No.
The ban was based on the idea that the bottom screws could come loose over time, thus allowing the bottom part of the dropside to come out from the crib allowing a child to be trapped.
Trust me, I did the research. Anyone who modified their crib with bolts to make it NOT a drop-side did what they were supposed to do to keep the crib. And people who kept drop-sides who routinely checked the stability of the bolts involved was ALSO doing it right.
We have a drop-side that was not recalled. The bottom of the crib has a decorative board across it, so no matter what happened, it could not malfunction in the way that drop-side cribs were malfunctioning. But no, the cribside wasn't spontaneously dropping. That would defy physics.
(ETA: "The CPSC said the cribs' drop-side, which is attached with plastic hardware, can detach unexpectedly and create a space between the crib wall and the adjacent mattress. Infants and toddlers can become trapped in the space and suffocate or fall to the floor, the agency said." from a CNN Money article) Also important to note that while metal drop sides were NEVER recalled, they were dropped from production as the consumer market turned toward non-drop-side cribs).
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Actually, it was only a few different models that were truly defective. Then they went ahead and recalled every drop side crib and stopped making them because of user error.
I judge anyone who uses a product after having been made aware of its recall.
FWIW, I used a drop-side with my first (before they recalled them all). However, she only slept in it for like two months before she started climbing out and we got her a toddler bed. She slept with my H & I before that.
ETA: If the drop side crib has been modified so that it no longer can drop down, I suppose that's one thing. But personally, even that wouldn't bring me much comfort.
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In the 10 years the consumer agencies were paying attention, 32 children died.
With cold medicine, over the course of 30 years, 20 children died.
Obviously no death is ever good - but I believe this to be a fairly serious overreaction on the part of the consumer agencies - and nobody ever thought to clarify what was going on or run an education (Hey, pay attention to your cribs, yo!) campaign - they just went with an outright ban. It's a shame.
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Yup.
Dropsides with plastic hardware were the issue. The public got the note "DROP SIDE CRIBS ARE DEADLEEEEEEEEEEEE" and banned them all.
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We bought a drop side crib with #1. Broke a peice when we moved and called to replace it and it had been recalled (they offered fix-it kit at the time). Used it for #2 and it was recalled right before #3. We took it back to the store, after using it for 4 years and got cash in our pocket to buy a brand new, non drop side for baby #3.
Our high chair was also recalled right before baby #3 which Graco offered a fix-it kit as well.
Meh.
I bought a crib for $50 because the store couldn't legally sell it after the one day because of some new safety law. We have the exact same crib for both kid, just one is white and one is dark wood. We put the 2nd crib on layaway and got a call from the store a week later saying due to new crib standards the thickness of the bars (not the spacing but the actual bars) were being increased. We could pick it up that day for what we put down on it or we could use the money towards a new crib but they couldn't sell it after that day.
needless to say we bought a crib set for $50.
DS is still using this crib and we're using the other one for #3.
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We used them too. DD loved it. I will use one for the next kid too. Oh, and we use bumpers.
Im a foolish sucka. Book is called NurtureShock, sort of like a parenting version of freakonomics.
We were told by her pedi at the time that co-sleeping was fine... When we were made aware of the dangers, we put her in her crib. Hence, the statement about her sleeping in a drop-side crib for 2 months before moving her to a toddler bed.
As previously stated, I judge when people continue to use products after knowing that they are recalled. Not being aware of the recall is one thing, knowing and ignoring it as something else all-together.
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Most cribs sold now are drop downs but with the directions for the drop down cancelled and additional screws to keep the side in place. So basically your H just did the same thing that the cribs now come with.
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Basically, it's so contraindicated *now* for children under 4 or 6 (I can't remember the cutoff) that most medications don't even have directions for children that small.
My physician wouldn't even PRESCRIBE it.
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My pedi has recommended cold medicine for my son two separate times in the past 6 months. (My son will be two next week.)
When it comes to the article. It seems like it's been recalled (like a lot of things) due to user error, and not because of extreme risk from the product itself. Parents were over dosing their children (an easy mistake to avoid if you use your brain.) and it was leading to complications.
Second, I tell everyone I know to DOUBLE CHECK the dosing spoons that you can buy separately in the store. I had two different ones when my son was a baby and at one point decided to double check them using a measuring spoon (5 ml.) I discovered that I gave 30% more medication using one than when I used the other. This was a product I purchased in the store that was intended to be used for giving infants medication. I was furious. My preference for giving medication now is a measuring spoon like you would use to measure ingredients for baking.
Sure. That was my point. OTC drugs in infant formula w/infant dosing no longer exist because of this recall - which is stupid and based on user error.
I wasn't saying the drugs were dangerous. I will say that your ped's about 5 years behind on the recommendations, though, because the Pediatrics people in the US were the ones pushing the cold medicine ban.
ETA: My bigger point, because I feel I probably wasn't being clear, is that an educated consumer should be the goal, rather than yanking a product from the market. Ill-labelled cold medication and plastic-hardware drop side cribs AND ill-educated consumers were the problem. . . not cold medication or drop side cribs. And that's the point I was making to respond to the person who made the blanket statement about drop-sides being recalled and never using something that was recalled.
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SO did the same with our hand-me-down drop side crib. His aunt & uncle gave it to us, along with the mattress that their 3rd daughter (who is now 5-6yo) used as a baby. We've never had any issues & we got the complete bedroom set for free (convertible crib, glider & two dressers, one with shelves).
We used a dropside. I have a bum elbow from the car accident I was in and I'd never have been able to pick DD up out of the crib without it being a dropside, especially when she got heavier and we lowered the mattress all the way down. No extremities were ever chopped off.
So long as you breastfed it, I don't see any problem.
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WRONG.
It's because he was jumping on the bed and jumped too high and smushed his head against the ceiling.
And you claim to be a Family Guy fan. Whatevs!
Thank you