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It feels like an empty victory

Ugh. So the Judge agreed that XH taking away my son?s phone and then having his coincidentally disconnected, and not providing me the new number is clearly violating the CO. He agreed that the wife?s cell phone being disconnected and XH?s mother?s landline disconnected is fishy as well. He even agreed that me not hearing from my children in nearly 48 hours is cause for concern, considering I was able to show how frequently they had been calling and texting leading up to the incident where my son called me and I could hear my XH yelling at him in the background. The Judge even agreed that given my XH?s history of moving and changing numbers without disclosing the information and his prior DV restraining order added up to a lot of uncertainty and worry for the children?s well being. But instead of ordering the children be returned home immediately, he ordered visitation to be revoked as soon as this visit is over. If the children are not home as scheduled on Tuesday then a warrant will be issued for my XH?s arrest.

So basically what that means is: Once the kids get of the plane Tuesday morning at 10:00 a.m., XH?s visitation will be revoked until the hearing in November. At that time he?ll have to explain to the Judge why his visitation shouldn?t be revoked and why he shouldn?t have supervised visitation in CA hereafter. If the kids do not get off the plane on Tuesday morning at 10:00 a.m., a warrant will be issued in CA for his arrest, which then has to be sent to TN for them to issue their own warrant. And then I get to sit and wait some more until the kids are returned to me. Either way, his visitation is revoked for now. I know there was an order made, but I feel like nothing has been resolved. I try to keep telling myself it?s only a few more days, but it feels like longer.

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Re: It feels like an empty victory

  • emikatemikat member
    I'm sorry the judge is making you wait.  I don't understand why he didn't think there was urgency in making sure they they are safely back in your care.  I know that I would be going crazy for the next few days as well.  Big hugs.  I hope you hear something from them before Tuesday to know that they are ok.  
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  • its definitely a victory, just a long-term victory.  have you/ your attorney been following up with the police about the well-child check? Any word from the kids at all?

    you might be able to call the airline tuesday and see if the kids checked in for their flight, that will give you a bit of a heads up on what is going on? 

    personally, I would be FREAKING out until 10am tuesday :-/

                           
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  • imageemikat:
    I'm sorry the judge is making you wait.  I don't understand why he didn't think there was urgency in making sure they they are safely back in your care.  I know that I would be going crazy for the next few days as well.  Big hugs.  I hope you hear something from them before Tuesday to know that they are ok.  

    The reality is that if he ordered the kids returned they could not serve someone they cannot find, that does not mean I don't think he should have.

    For Nov:  I am sure you already do but document every time he calls when the kids are with you, if the kids talk to him, how long, and if they are not home when the kids call him back, etc. you need to show the judge that not only does he pull this and has in the past but that when he does not see them he does not care enough to contact them.  

    You are in our thoughts, I would not expect contact before Tuesday so try to keep busy and as calm as you can for the baby's sake.  Can you contact the airlines to find out if they are on the plane Tuesday when the flight takes off?  I don't know how you would do that.  

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    its definitely a victory, just a long-term victory.  have you/ your attorney been following up with the police about the well-child check? Any word from the kids at all? No word from the kids, and it's been almost 48 hours.  I know that doesn't seem like a long time, but they were texting me easily 5 times a day and calling at least once a day.  To have zero word from them is stressful.  As for the well-child check, yeah they haven't been home when the police go by the house and they haven't been to grandma's either.  I'm sure police officers aren't sitting in front of the house all day, so it's entirely possible that XH and the kids have been coming and going throughout the day.  But I'm still worried.

    you might be able to call the airline tuesday and see if the kids checked in for their flight, that will give you a bit of a heads up on what is going on?  My attorney is going to start calling the airline tomorrow to see what information they need before they can release info to me/him.  Since the airfare wasn't purchased on my credit card we're not sure how much info they can provide.  Hopefully a copy of the CO showing I have primary custody as well as today's order should be sufficient, but who knows with how strict TSA and everyone are now.

    personally, I would be FREAKING out until 10am tuesday :-/

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    imageemikat:
    I'm sorry the judge is making you wait.  I don't understand why he didn't think there was urgency in making sure they they are safely back in your care.  I know that I would be going crazy for the next few days as well.  Big hugs.  I hope you hear something from them before Tuesday to know that they are ok.  

    The reality is that if he ordered the kids returned they could not serve someone they cannot find, that does not mean I don't think he should have. This is actually the reason the Judge went ahead and heard the matter today as opposed to making us wait until tomorrow.  We argued that had XH had working phone numbers like he's supposed to pursuant to the CO, then we could have given timely notice yesterday.  The Judge agreed and we proceeded.  I get what you're saying about not being able to serve someone they can't find.  At least with the route the Judge went, a warrant can be issued for his arrest and they can camp out at his house, grandma's house, wife's work, wherever they need to until he (or the kids) pop up.

    For Nov:  I am sure you already do but document every time he calls when the kids are with you, if the kids talk to him, how long, and if they are not home when the kids call him back, etc. you need to show the judge that not only does he pull this and has in the past but that when he does not see them he does not care enough to contact them.  Yup.  I have screenshots of every call (it shows the date and time he called, as well as the length of the call).  I have it set up so he only calls my cell phone to talk to the kids specifically for this purpose.

    You are in our thoughts, I would not expect contact before Tuesday so try to keep busy and as calm as you can for the baby's sake.  Can you contact the airlines to find out if they are on the plane Tuesday when the flight takes off?  I don't know how you would do that. My attorney is going to start calling the airline tomorrow to see what information they need before they can release info to me/him.  Since the airfare wasn't purchased on my credit card we're not sure how much info they can provide.  Hopefully a copy of the CO showing I have primary custody as well as today's order should be sufficient, but who knows with how strict TSA and everyone are now. 

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  • You will be in my thoughts. Hoping for some great news on tuesday.


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  • I am so sorry you still haven't heard from them. I popped on here just to check, bc even as a stranger I am worried for you :( I hope you hear from them tonight. DO you know of anyone in Tennessee that could drive by and check on them? Any posters here in that area? If the were in MD I would totally stalk for you. 

     I don't think you will have an issue getting info from the airline. It's not a doctor, and you are not asking for billing info.  

     Continuing good thoughts and prayers heading your way.  

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    I feel for you.  I know this doesn't help your immediate need to hear from the kids, but long term, this is a victory to show him that his behavior is unacceptable. 

    Please try to stay calm for the baby's sake.  I know that's next to impossible, but you need to think of ALL of your children.  I would even suggest you contact your OB to see if he can give you anything.  I believe benadryl is safe in pregnancy, and it can help you sleep, but please check with an MD first, don't take my word for it.

    I do hope you hear from them before the weekend is over, but in all liklihood, it will be Tuesday, and I wish you peace of mind, somehow, until then.

    Obviously check with OB but mine authorized Melatonin (Natural hormone already found in the body to promote sleep) to help me sleep  because I was had so much anxiety and pain for a while. I was also told I could take benadryl (though it was for allergies) during my pregnancy as well.


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    I am so sorry you still haven't heard from them. I popped on here just to check, bc even as a stranger I am worried for you :( I hope you hear from them tonight. DO you know of anyone in Tennessee that could drive by and check on them? Any posters here in that area? If the were in MD I would totally stalk for you. 

     I don't think you will have an issue getting info from the airline. It's not a doctor, and you are not asking for billing info.  

     Continuing good thoughts and prayers heading your way.  

    As stalkerish as it sounds, my dad has a friend in Georgia who's going to drive the 5 hours on his motorcycle and check it out.  I gave him all the addresses I have for people out there and pictures of the kiddos and XH.  I promise, he's not going to cause any bodily harm!!  I'm just thinking at this point XH might be watching for police cars, but not some old dude on a hog...

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  • imagewendilea:

    I feel for you.  I know this doesn't help your immediate need to hear from the kids, but long term, this is a victory to show him that his behavior is unacceptable. 

    Please try to stay calm for the baby's sake.  I know that's next to impossible, but you need to think of ALL of your children.  I would even suggest you contact your OB to see if he can give you anything.  I believe benadryl is safe in pregnancy, and it can help you sleep, but please check with an MD first, don't take my word for it.

    I do hope you hear from them before the weekend is over, but in all liklihood, it will be Tuesday, and I wish you peace of mind, somehow, until then.

    Thankfully I have an OB appointment tomorrow morning, and I'm hoping he can prescribe me something.  More than anything I want to make sure this bun is cooking ok even with all the stress right now.  My husband made me go for an extra long walk tonight in hopes it will tire me out.

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  • I'm still praying for you and the kids. Hang in there and don't forget to take care of yourself and the baby. Thank you for updating us, and don't forget we're all here for you.
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  • ((hugs)) you and your kiddos are in my thoughts and prayers!

     

  • Praying for you! I'm glad you got this long term victory but I know I'd be stressing until Tuesday, I'm sure you are going insane waiting. I hope your able to keep busy until then. I'll be praying that your kiddos get home safe and sound on Tuesday. 
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  • I've been super busy at work and finally got to catch up on the board this morning and I'm so sorry you are going through this.  Like PP said, it's a long term victory.  I know that doesn't help for the time being but know that all the ladies here have you in our thoughts and prayers and will continue until you get some news.  Big hugs to you and keep that little one inside you safe!
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  • This is great news - the judge revoked visitation.  Is there any way you can start working towards supervised visitation?

    I apologize that I didn't know your entire history with your ex.  I commented based on the information of that post.  In any case, he just shot himself in the foot by going off the deep end, and I'm glad it was in  your favor.  

  • Praying for you and hoping the kids are in your arms safely on Tuesday!
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  • This is definitely a long-term victory in terms of revokation of his visitation.

    In the meantime, I am praying like crazy for you that your children step off that plane on Tuesday, and that G-d grants you the strength you need to get through the next few days. Try to take care of yourself and your baby.

     

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  • hang in there. i cant imagine how much you are worrying butsending good vibes to you and your fam.
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