F/U where's my Ferber ladies?

LowTalker23 · June 2012

Last two nights have gone about the same. Last night he vomited as soon as he was done with his bottle. We cleaned him up and put him in bed. He quieted down after the first check at 20 minutes and went to sleep. Tonight he puked halfway through his bottle, we again cleaned him up and put him to bed where he screamed until the first check at 30 minutes. He then went on to sleep.

Any other advice? I know it was suggested to let him sleep in his vomit but at this point I really don't think he's intentially throwing up. I think he's stressing himself out in anticipation of being put him in his crib awake. For the past three nights, he's been starting to fuss and cry during bathtime and all during the rest of his bedtime routine. He knows what's coming and I think he's just freaking out about it.

Also for the past two nights he's puking before we can even get him into the bed, so sleeping in his vomit is out of the question there anyway.

20 and 30 minutes are definitely an improvement from the hour long screaming sessions he started out with...but I'm at a loss here, guys. I don't want to stop what I'm doing and let all this grief be for nothing...but I just don't know what to do.

gymnst1013 · June 2012

I missed your first post but maybe reduce the intervals back down to just a couple of minutes? Basically start from the beginning?

rainstar752 · June 2012

Hmm, are you sure it's not the actual bottle itself- like maybe he's full and he doesn't need that bedtime bottle? I would try moving the bottle up, like an hour before bedtime. Then do something else relaxing, like reading books in a dimly lit room, to get him ready for bed. Hopefully by then the milk will be digested.

LollyBug18 · June 2012

rainstar752:
Hmm, are you sure it's not the actual bottle itself- like maybe he's full and he doesn't need that bedtime bottle? I would try moving the bottle up, like an hour before bedtime. Then do something else relaxing, like reading books in a dimly lit room, to get him ready for bed. Hopefully by then the milk will be digested.

I was kind of thinking the puking might be due to the bottle in the midst of all the screaming too...that'd be the first change I'd try to make.

cassoppea · June 2012

I agree about the bottle. Given you are sleep training anyway, I'd say it's time to get rid of the night bottle and push it up to dinner time.

MrsCodeMonkey · June 2012

I don't remember the part in the book that said to let them sleep in their own vomit. It's good you cleaned him up. Imagine how stinky the bed would be by morning. It sounds to me that he has anxiety about being put in the crib. He associates something in the routine with the sleep training. Can you switch it up a bit? Maybe shorten it? My DD associates the blinds closing with being put in the crib, so now I do it in the very last second or right after I place her in the crib. Good luck!

CarlaAndJames · June 2012

I wouldn't let DD sleep in her own vomit, but he's puking before you lay him down anyway, so that's not a factor. I agree with the others about moving his bottle up some and then just rocking and reading or singing a little before laying him down.

LowTalker23 · June 2012

CarlaAndJames:
I wouldn't let DD sleep in her own vomit, but he's puking before you lay him down anyway, so that's not a factor. I agree with the others about moving his bottle up some and then just rocking and reading or singing a little before laying him down.

I think this is what we're going to try tonight. Thanks for the suggestions, ladies. There's also no way I could let him sleep in his puke, especially not right now during all this.

Do you think changing up the routine is going to get him all riled up too?

He woke up at 3:30 last night and stood up and screamed for 6 minutes. Then he sat down, grabbed his horsey and sat like that for a couple of minutes. Next thing I knew he was back asleep. So I KNOW he can do it. It's just so hard.

CarlaAndJames · June 2012

bluejill15:

He woke up at 3:30 last night and stood up and screamed for 6 minutes. Then he sat down, grabbed his horsey and sat like that for a couple of minutes. Next thing I knew he was back asleep. So I KNOW he can do it. It's just so hard.

So sorry it's been so hard for you That sounds like progress to me though! Try to keep as much of the rest of your bedtime routine the same for sure. Lighting, jammies, etc. Hopefully it won't be too rough, but it can't get much worse than screaming until he pukes, right?

LowTalker23 · June 2012

CarlaAndJames:
So sorry it's been so hard for you That sounds like progress to me though! Try to keep as much of the rest of your bedtime routine the same for sure. Lighting, jammies, etc. Hopefully it won't be too rough, but it can't get much worse than screaming until he pukes, right?

I know, right?

Another question. It seems my LO is a night owl compared to everyone else's. He stays up until 9:00-9:30, sometimes it's 10. His last nap ends around 5-5:30. Like I said in my first post, this is the schedule he put himself on and has been on for the last 3 months. He's SSTN with no problems, wakes up around 7:30-8 am (which is fantastic for me!). But, is this too late a bedtime for him? Someone said on another board that 9:30 was way too late, but I was just following what he's been doing and I didn't want to switch it up too much on him all of a sudden. They suggested waking him up from his nap by 4 and having bedtime at 8. WDYT? Do you think this'll help or should I just keep plugging along for a few more nights and see how it evens out?

CarlaAndJames · June 2012

bluejill15:
CarlaAndJames:

So sorry it's been so hard for you That sounds like progress to me though! Try to keep as much of the rest of your bedtime routine the same for sure. Lighting, jammies, etc. Hopefully it won't be too rough, but it can't get much worse than screaming until he pukes, right?

I know, right?

Another question. It seems my LO is a night owl compared to everyone else's. He stays up until 9:00-9:30, sometimes it's 10. His last nap ends around 5-5:30. Like I said in my first post, this is the schedule he put himself on and has been on for the last 3 months. He's SSTN with no problems, wakes up around 7:30-8 am (which is fantastic for me!). But, is this too late a bedtime for him? Someone said on another board that 9:30 was way too late, but I was just following what he's been doing and I didn't want to switch it up too much on him all of a sudden. They suggested waking him up from his nap by 4 and having bedtime at 8. WDYT? Do you think this'll help or should I just keep plugging along for a few more nights and see how it evens out?

I think pushing his sleeping schedule will make it worse, honestly. My daughter goes to bed at 7 but she wakes up at 5, and you probably don't want that!

MrsCodeMonkey · June 2012

The Ferber book says it helps when you put them to bed later during sleep training so they're more tired. I wouldn't mess with the time yet. You can scale it back later. I do think it sounds late, but only because my DD goes to bed at 7. Of course she's up by 5:30-6, which is not so fun.

LowTalker23 · June 2012

CarlaAndJames:
I think pushing his sleeping schedule will make it worse, honestly. My daughter goes to bed at 7 but she wakes up at 5, and you probably don't want that!

Haha yeah, 5 would be quite a change when I'm used to 8!

Thanks, I really appreciate everyone letting me talk this out and helping me troubleshoot.

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