June 2011 Moms

great icing debate

On my lunch hour today, I was making icing for DD party this weekend.  My husband is very much against icing on DD's smash cake.  Has anyone used yogurt as icing?  Or just had a naked cake for their LO?

Husband thinks the icing is too much sweet stuff for a one year old.  I say it is all in good fun.
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  • I am thinking of doing yogurt since DH wants a smash cake and I would rather go without so this is a compromise.
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  • I feel bad for the poor babies that don't get some ooey-gooey sugar-high inducing icing on their cakes....

     

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  • I say veto your husband & go for the icing...it looks much better in pictures than just pieces of the cake on her face :)
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  • We did regular icing and she loved it!  It's really just one day (well two for us since we did professional photos with a cake smash).  
  • I made her icing and just put less sugar than normal. She didn't even get much in her mouth and I went really light on the icing.
  • We did regular cream cheese frosting and she loved it!  You can also do cream cheese whipped with maple syrup or fruit spread.
  • I think it's crazy to not allow them a treat once in a while.  It's not like he's going to down the whole cake.  He'll probably get very little of it anyway and you don't give it to him every day!
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  • What about whipped cream or whipped coconut milk? You can make either one low sugar. I'd be happy to give you more specific instructions for either one- it's super easy. Plus, I feel like I've heard something about using banana, but that I don't know details about.
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    I think it's crazy to not allow them a treat once in a while.  It's not like he's going to down the whole cake.  He'll probably get very little of it anyway and you don't give it to him every day!

    I'm in this camp!

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    I feel bad for the poor babies that don't get some ooey-gooey sugar-high inducing icing on their cakes....

    I know you're being silly, but really? I don't feel bad for babies who eat healthy any more than I feel bad for babies who get sugary, colored frosting. I'm sure they're all having fun either way! It's not like they're getting kale instead of cake Stick out tongue

    We're doing a strawberry shortcake. I'm sure my LO will love it; I know I do!

  • We try to abide by the 90/10 rule around here. 90% of her diet is pretty strictly controlled, good stuff. Her birthday cake is going to fall into that 10%. I don't see her eating more than a few bites. Even if she ate the entire cake it's not going to give her diabetes or tooth decay.

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    imageJills83:

    I feel bad for the poor babies that don't get some ooey-gooey sugar-high inducing icing on their cakes....

    I know you're being silly, but really? I don't feel bad for babies who eat healthy any more than I feel bad for babies who get sugary, colored frosting. I'm sure they're all having fun either way! It's not like they're getting kale instead of cake Stick out tongue

    We're doing a strawberry shortcake. I'm sure my LO will love it; I know I do!

    Strawberry shortcake is yummy...so I don't feel bad for your LO Smile

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    imageBirdies08:
    imageJills83:

    I feel bad for the poor babies that don't get some ooey-gooey sugar-high inducing icing on their cakes....

    I know you're being silly, but really? I don't feel bad for babies who eat healthy any more than I feel bad for babies who get sugary, colored frosting. I'm sure they're all having fun either way! It's not like they're getting kale instead of cake Stick out tongue

    We're doing a strawberry shortcake. I'm sure my LO will love it; I know I do!

    Strawberry shortcake is yummy...so I don't feel bad for your LO Smile

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  • All in good fun.   A little extra sugar won't harm her.  Besides, how much do you think she will actually manage to swallow?
  • DS is getting good ol' icing!
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  • I'll be honest. I wanted to do a healthy cake with healthy icing. MH and I eat super healthy so I thought we should make an attempt for DD. I was up all night trying to bake a cake that tasted good but wasn't bad for her. Epic fail! The cake sunk and the icing melted if you took it out of the fridge for more than 27 seconds. For her party, she got a regular birthday cake with real frosting. She loved every bite (here's proof, lol), it made for great pictures and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. She pooped purple/blue swirls at first but it was worth it. Unlike other posters, DD actually DID eat a lot of it but she's back to healthy eating now. Wink


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    I think all of this is hilarious.  My LO barely ate any of her cake at all.  She just licked at some of the icing and took maybe two bites of cake.  Are other people's LOs really eating so much cake that this sugar thing is a real issue?
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    imagekas80:
    I think all of this is hilarious.  My LO barely ate any of her cake at all.  She just licked at some of the icing and took maybe two bites of cake.  Are other people's LOs really eating so much cake that this sugar thing is a real issue?

    Agreed.

    I understand feeding LO healthy stuff, but once every year? Really, your hesitant to give them sugar just once? Whatever, I don't understand it but have you considered Cool-whip maybe? You could even use Cool-whip lite if you'd like I guess 

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  • We tried giving DD real frosting. She still refused to eat any of it. I hope next year she really digs in and has fun. I am all bout things in moderation.
  • Yea, so my kid ingested a fair amount of his heavily frosted sugar-laden cake.  I guess we won't know the long-term repercussions of it for years to come.  If he won't eat his peas in 2 years, I'll look back to his first birthday and say- yep, should have given him a squash cake instead of a smash cake.  
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  • I'm in the everything in moderation camp. I'm making my own icing and cake, and feeling better that I'm doing that.

     

    the straweberry shortcake sounds amazing!!! my favorite!

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    Yea, so my kid ingested a fair amount of his heavily frosted sugar-laden cake.  I guess we won't know the long-term repercussions of it for years to come.  If he won't eat his peas in 2 years, I'll look back to his first birthday and say- yep, should have given him a squash cake instead of a smash cake.  

    bahahahaha.

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    The best part of the smash cake pics is the icing covered baby!    I make my oen icing since I don't care for the canned stuff.   Tastes way too sweet.     I make a cream cheese icing that gets raves

    1 stick of butter(take it out of the fridge for 15 minutes or so.  It's needs to soften up a bit)

    1 8oz block of cream cheese

    vanilla

    4 cups of powdered sugar

    milk

    Using an electric mixer, cream the sugar.   Then add the cream cheese and vanilla and beat until smooth.   Add in the powedered sugar, 1 cup at a time.    Add a splash of milk to thin the icing out as needed.

     You could very easily use less sugar.   This is a a very yummy icing that doesn't taste overly sweet.   

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  • imageJuneBugsMommy:
    DS is getting good ol' icing!
    this is us too. Actually my best friend is making it and wants to add EXTRA icing. She's so excited about making it that I didn't tell her not to add extra. I feel like he will hardly get any in his mouth anyway...and I can always scrape some off if I need too.
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    imageJills83:

    I feel bad for the poor babies that don't get some ooey-gooey sugar-high inducing icing on their cakes....

     

    I agree, especially after seeing how little she even ate.
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  • we iced - he ate (too much) then he vomited - a little bit of sugar never hurt anyone - it's all a bit of fun
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  • Honestly....he'll probably eat very little of it so I wouldn't stress. J played with his for the most part instead of eating it.
  • We do real icing over here, and I don't think twice about it at all.  They ingest some, but obviously not an entire smash cake.

    To each their own, but my train of thought runs something like:

    You're in control of what they eat all the time at this age.  If you don't give it to them, they don't get it.  It's not like they're sneaking into the freezer at night eating bowls of ice cream.  So if you choose to do something like a very unhealthy cake/ice cream, like pp said, you feed them their regularly healthy stuff the next day.  To me, it's more harmless doing it now than on, say, their fifth birthday when they're trading food/eating snacks at other kids' houses, and you're not completely in control of what they eat.  Even if they love the smash cake, they won't be able to tell you or demand that that's all they eat from now on.

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    imagekas80:
    I think all of this is hilarious.  My LO barely ate any of her cake at all.  She just licked at some of the icing and took maybe two bites of cake.  Are other people's LOs really eating so much cake that this sugar thing is a real issue?

    Agreed.  C barely ate two bites.  She kept feeding it to me because everyone was laughing when she started giving it to me.

    haha!  Cute!

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  • I admit I was originally thinking about making it healthy, but my DH brought me back to my senses by reminding me that it's her 1st birthday- she only gets one first birthday, ever!  It's definitely an occasion for real cake. 

    I will say my DD ate a LOT of her cake.  It was a 6" round, 2 -tier cake and she ate about a quarter of it before I took it away (she cried).  And yes, she did have a sugar high, which led to some interesting laughing spells, followed by a crash into sleep.  But she loved it.  For us, it ended up being more fun having her experience real sugar for the first time than if I had tried to make it all healthy.

     

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    imagekas80:
    I think all of this is hilarious.  My LO barely ate any of her cake at all.  She just licked at some of the icing and took maybe two bites of cake.  Are other people's LOs really eating so much cake that this sugar thing is a real issue?

    Agreed.

    I understand feeding LO healthy stuff, but once every year? Really, your hesitant to give them sugar just once? Whatever, I don't understand it but have you considered Cool-whip maybe? You could even use Cool-whip lite if you'd like I guess 

     

    Cool Whip is NOT healthy. Sorry, I really don't mean to pick on you in particular, but it makes me crazy when people want to replace real food with things like artificial sweetener or the nasty chemicals in Cool Whip for the sake of health. Low fat/low sugar/low calorie does not equal healthy, especially not for babies!

    Ok, deep breaths, I really don't mean this just about you and your comment. It's a rant that's been building in me, so please forgive my responding to you with it!

    At this age, I wouldn't even consider giving LO icing out of a can, but would have no problem giving her homemade frosting that I knew was just butter and sugar. For her birthday, we're doing whipped cream- just cream and a little bit of sugar. In my mind, real, whole ingredients are a million times healthier than most diet food out there. Again, especially for our LOs.

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    I think you should respect his wishes on this, and try to compromise. Maybe a whipped topping? Or make the icing with very little sugar?

    I don't understand the pearl clutching some women have on here about parents not giving their kids sweets. It's the parent's decisions and is not a requirement to have a happy childhood. Geez, the kid isn't be deprived because he or she didn't have real sugar icing at his or her 1st birthday.

    You can make the same argument for Coke. "well a little Coke on her birthday is ok- it's just one day". Uh, no.

    This is where we disagree, because I see no difference.  It would be just one day and just a little coke.  It's not like I'd be filling a sippy with coke every day for him.  It would be a birthday treat, just like the cake.  Sugar is sugar after all.

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    imagekas80:
    I think all of this is hilarious.  My LO barely ate any of her cake at all.  She just licked at some of the icing and took maybe two bites of cake.  Are other people's LOs really eating so much cake that this sugar thing is a real issue?

    Agreed.

    I understand feeding LO healthy stuff, but once every year? Really, your hesitant to give them sugar just once? Whatever, I don't understand it but have you considered Cool-whip maybe? You could even use Cool-whip lite if you'd like I guess 

     

    You beat me to it.  I would give DS a bowl of sugar before I gave him Cool Whip, never mind Cool Whip LITE!   

     WATER, CORN SYRUP, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL (COCONUT AND PALM KERNEL OILS), LESS THAN 2% OF SODIUM CASEINATE (FROM MILK), NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, XANTHAN AND GUAR GUMS, POLYSORBATE 60, SORBITAN MONOSTEARATE, SODIUM POLYPHOSPHATES, BETA CAROTENE (COLOR).

    (No clue about the green; it was green on the site I copied it from).

     My buttercream frosting recipe: butter, icing sugar, vanilla, milk, salt. 

     

    Cool Whip is NOT healthy. Sorry, I really don't mean to pick on you in particular, but it makes me crazy when people want to replace real food with things like artificial sweetener or the nasty chemicals in Cool Whip for the sake of health. Low fat/low sugar/low calorie does not equal healthy, especially not for babies!

    Ok, deep breaths, I really don't mean this just about you and your comment. It's a rant that's been building in me, so please forgive my responding to you with it!

    At this age, I wouldn't even consider giving LO icing out of a can, but would have no problem giving her homemade frosting that I knew was just butter and sugar. For her birthday, we're doing whipped cream- just cream and a little bit of sugar. In my mind, real, whole ingredients are a million times healthier than most diet food out there. Again, especially for our LOs.

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    imagemaddiemoon43:
    imageBirdies08:
    imagemilesc:

    imagekas80:
    I think all of this is hilarious.  My LO barely ate any of her cake at all.  She just licked at some of the icing and took maybe two bites of cake.  Are other people's LOs really eating so much cake that this sugar thing is a real issue?

    Agreed.

    I understand feeding LO healthy stuff, but once every year? Really, your hesitant to give them sugar just once? Whatever, I don't understand it but have you considered Cool-whip maybe? You could even use Cool-whip lite if you'd like I guess 

     

    You beat me to it.  I would give DS a bowl of sugar before I gave him Cool Whip, never mind Cool Whip LITE!   

     WATER, CORN SYRUP, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL (COCONUT AND PALM KERNEL OILS), LESS THAN 2% OF SODIUM CASEINATE (FROM MILK), NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, XANTHAN AND GUAR GUMS, POLYSORBATE 60, SORBITAN MONOSTEARATE, SODIUM POLYPHOSPHATES, BETA CAROTENE (COLOR).

    (No clue about the green; it was green on the site I copied it from).

     My buttercream frosting recipe: butter, icing sugar, vanilla, milk, salt. 

     

    Cool Whip is NOT healthy. Sorry, I really don't mean to pick on you in particular, but it makes me crazy when people want to replace real food with things like artificial sweetener or the nasty chemicals in Cool Whip for the sake of health. Low fat/low sugar/low calorie does not equal healthy, especially not for babies!

    Ok, deep breaths, I really don't mean this just about you and your comment. It's a rant that's been building in me, so please forgive my responding to you with it!

    At this age, I wouldn't even consider giving LO icing out of a can, but would have no problem giving her homemade frosting that I knew was just butter and sugar. For her birthday, we're doing whipped cream- just cream and a little bit of sugar. In my mind, real, whole ingredients are a million times healthier than most diet food out there. Again, especially for our LOs.

     

    Uh, yea no worries ladies I was just being a tad bit snarky.

    DD got the real thing. So much butter it melted within minutes 

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  • imagemaddiemoon43:

     My buttercream frosting recipe: butter, icing sugar, vanilla, milk, salt. 

     

    Yummmmmm! 

    How could I forget vanilla? That is going in our whipped cream, of course. Real vanilla!


  • imagemilesc:

     

    Uh, yea no worries ladies I was just being a tad bit snarky.

    DD got the real thing. So much butter it melted within minutes 

    You ladies are killing me with the butter talk! I am seriously drooling over here. I probably shouldn't get up to make myself a midnight frosting snack, right? 

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    imagemilesc:

     

    Uh, yea no worries ladies I was just being a tad bit snarky.

    DD got the real thing. So much butter it melted within minutes 

    You ladies are killing me with the butter talk! I am seriously drooling over here. I probably shouldn't get up to make myself a midnight frosting snack, right? 

    Yes

    ...have you ever had a bit of butter smeared on a Saltine?! Wink 

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  • I don't get why people think LO's should get sugar as a special treat for their birthdays. 

    For starters, they are not going to have any memory of this "special treat" so what's the purpose of giving them a sugar high-for my own amusement?  No thanks.

    And since he's never had much sugar and he's still learning new foods, he won't associate sugar with being a special treat anyway.  DS thinks a piece of bread or plain waffle is the greatest thing on earth, so why should I give him a ton of sugar when he'd be just as happy without it? 

    I'm going with a happy medium for LO's bday--cake & low-sugar frosting that I'll make from scratch.

    I posted this in my other thread, but here's the frosting recipe for anyone interested:

    One cup of Greek yogurt

    One teaspoon of vanilla extract

    One-half cup of powdered sugar

    Sift powdered sugar into a mixing bowl. Add yogurt and vanilla extract. Blend until your mixture becomes smooth and thick. Refrigerate for at least a half hour to allow it to thicken further. This recipe will frost twenty-four cupcakes.

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  • This is such an asinine argument. Give cake, or don't give cake. Neither is going to hurt anyone's kid. Can we all stop being martyrs about it?!
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