I know I shoudn't be worried about multiples when I haven't been able to even have one... Its been an ongoing fear for years. I have so many lengthy conversations with my RE and her nurses about this.
I am going to start our medications/IUI next month. I can't decide which to do. DH and RE both are in favor of the IUI but I'm so afraid of multiples that I haven't scheduled it. I know I'm significantly decreasing my chances by doing nothing when I could be increasing the chances for one child by just doing something.
Re: is anyone else terrified of multiples?
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I'm nervous about multiples, but I wouldn't say terrified. If you are getting the proper monitoring then you will eliminate most of the risks for high order multiples. So it's just the risk of twins or maybe trips that would still be there. Although they do sound like a handful, I think I'll be able to make it just fine if that's how it works out.
When you talk to your RE does she talk through the percent chances of multiples? For me, knowing that getting triplets was X percent chance and getting twins was Y percent change, it helped me not freak out as much.
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DH and i discussed and I was really nervous about the possibility of this happening. However, personally, for us, the more we discussed it, i think the more we are okay with the idea.
Deep down i have to admit, now im thinking it would be pretty awesome to have multiples! LOL
But i'll honestly just be happy with one!
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I would say I'm concerned, not terrified.
I was talking to my dad about Clomid when I went on it, and I was like blah blah blah, yeah, it increases the chance of twinning by 15%... he was like "so, you ready for twins, 15% is a lot" and I was like.. "what? No"....
I think we could handle twins though, more than that would be a challenge though!
Oh my god. Please learn something about how twins happen.
Nothing about your husband's family's genetics can cause you to ovulate more than one egg.
ETA: OP, of course we're all concerned about multiples. However, the vast majority of REs consider a multiples pregnancy not a good outcome and they work very hard at making sure you are not taking risks that will get you twins or higher numbers of babies in one pregnancy. Explain your fears to your RE and BEFORE YOU TRIGGER have a serious discussion about how many follies you would be uncomfortable with. For me/DH, we decided we won't trigger with more than two mature follies, but that's due to some other underlying health concerns - my RE wholly supports this plan.
And MrsTowns, a 15% chance of twins from an unmonitored Clomid cycle IS significantly higher than the average population. Spontaneous twins occur at around a rate of 2% in the US. I'm sure you can do the math on that one.
never said it wasn't an increased chance, just was saying I wasn't planning on having twins, if it happens it happens, but that isn't the plan
but it can cause an increase in chances for identical. meaning she has an increased chance of both kinds with treatment.
You have missed my point entirely, and you are also wrong. Clomid/ovarian stimulation drugs used only with an IUI or TI increase the likelihood of fraternal twins bc the drugs cause you to ovulate more than one egg at one time.
IVF can increase your likelihood of identical twins. IUI does not.
None of this is impacted at ALL by the father's family having a boatload of twins.
I am only afraid of them for financial reasons. I honestly don't know how we'd handle the double cost of everything - but I"m sure somehow we'd figure it out!
Other than that I'd be fine with it!
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No kidding! If we had twins, our daycare costs would be $3420 per month. It's about $1800/month for a singleton and then they're "nice" and give you a 10% discount on a second kid.
The genetics involving twins is passed down from the mother's side, not the father's side. So if there are twins on your mother's side, you have a slightly higher risk of having twins.
My mom is a twin, my grandmother had twin uncles, and they had twin great uncles. I have a risk of twins based on that alone, but I don't mind it. I've been around babies my entire life and even babysat twin girls from the time they were 3 months old until they got into jr. high. I've even had four infants at one time, many times throughout my life. Multiples are not a scary thought for me.
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I've thought of this a lot in the past few months. I'm totally on board with twins, and so is DH. I'd be done after that though.
DH's best friend's wife is expecting twins in July, after Clomid + IUI. Apparently they had triplets, but they lost the 3rd one very early on. Not sure if it matters, but it wasn't her that had the "issues" - he had low motility. Would that make for higher chance of multiples - if the woman already ovulated on her own and quite well, that the Clomid just made her eggs go bananas? I don't know, just throwing that out there - I really know nothing about all this! Anyway, triplets would terrify me - I couldn't imagine caring for 3 newborns.
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DH and I did a Clomid + trigger + timed intercourse cycle. We had 4 mature follicles, two on each side, however we already planned on timed intercourse since we did not have MFI. The nurse reassured me that although they would never have us "try" with anything higher than that, that 4 mature follicles doesn't mean 4 mature eggs. We did get pregnant with twins that cycle, and they are most definitely fraternal.
As for the rest of the discussion, yes we're a little overwhelmed. But we're overjoyed that we were finally successful. And we feel like if 2 miracles were meant to happen, then so be it. Unfortunately many women experience "vanishing twin" and have one baby. I feel like whatever happens happens, and whether it's one, two or three I wish you all the best luck in the world. I'm cheering for my 3T'rs.
I see this sentiment a lot and it really bothers me. I've been thinking about how best to word this, and I can't really think of a better way. I realize that all of us would do ANYTHING to have children (this is potentially flammable) but I do not think we should go to such lengths that it will be at the expense of the children we're trying to create.
It sounds terrific to get a 2 or 3 for one shot at parenthood, but when that 2 or 3 for one results in premature birth, ROP, lifelong heart and lung problems, learning disabilities, cerebral palsy, hundreds of thousands of dollars in NICU bills and weeks and weeks of time in the NICU, many surgeries, and even death - it just doesn't sit well with me. I really hate seeing this sentiment bc it totally diminishes exactly how dangerous a multiples pregnancy can be. The goal of infertility treatments is ONE baby per pregnancy, for the health of both mom and baby. We should all be pushing for that goal. HOM can be manageable, yes. But it's definitely not something to be taken lightly and especially not something to hope for or push for.
And knoll, please don't think this is directed at only you - I've actually been mulling over it for like a week since I saw a poster on IF who triggered for an IUI with 6 or more mature follies.
Twins run in my family so I know I can handle it...anything more than that I would def get worried!
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I often think this as well. From an after birth, everyone is healthy standpoint, I think I would love twins, but the additional risks scare me. The risks of HOM REALLY scare me for pregnancy and baby complications. I am not sure I could go through with selective reduction, and hope I never have to find out.
My first IUI, I was SO worried about multiples. Now, after 3 bfns, I think I am losing faith that one will work, let alone three!
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I do not have a fear of twins. Probably because I *know* so many ladies from this board that I became e-friends with that now have one year old twins. And I've seen how it's tough but at the same time, do-able and totally worth it.
I am afraid of triplets. The only gal from 3T that I *know* that had trips was Glow and while it's super tough, I'm sure (and from what I've read on her blog)...she is still surviving.
*Edit to add: as Debate said, I would not want multiples on purpose due to the health risks both to me and the babies. But I understand with treatments it's more likely, so I have faced the fear and accepted what I am afraid of. When I say I am not afraid of twins, I mean...once they are born healthy. As an IF'er I think all of us will be fearful during PG, no matter if one, two or more.
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Im not terrified. I would be worried about the pregnancy the whole time and go into it knowing that there is an increase chance of problems, but I think we can handle it. We have a great support system, I wont have to work, etc.
However, I have done IUI's with multiple follies and transfered 2 embryos with my IVF and have only been pregnant with 1. So I doubt we are at risk for them.
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I feel this way exactly. God doesn't give you more than you can handle and I feel I will get however many kids he has planned for me in whatever order or whatever time he feels. I feel that we can financially handle it if it comes. I understand debate this point as well. I do not wish it but will take what I can get.
I am overweight and have enough concerns with getting pregnant but I will face whatever comes my way head on and strong!!
No personal feelings here.. we all have opinions.. thats what makes this fun!
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