May 2012 Moms

Declining Internals - how does your nurse/doctor react?

I have my 38 week appointment tomorrow.  My OB group's routine is to start internals at 36 weeks, but I've declined them the last 2 weeks.  At my 36 week appointment, I had the GBS test too, so I didn't mention anything to the nurse about no internal, and the doctor was completely fine with it.  I told her she could try and convince me why I should have her check, but she basically said "it just gives us one more piece of information, but it's NBD." 

At my 37 week appointment, I told the nurse I wasn't going to have an internal when she tried to hand me the sheet, and she gave me a hard time about it.  Said the doctors really want them done and will "definitely want me to have one next week." Well, the doctor (different one from the week before) didn't say a word about it during my appointment. 

Although I'm somewhat on the fence, I think I would still like to decline the internal at my 38 wk appointment tomorrow, but now I'm wondering how I should handle it.  I'll be seeing yet a different doctor (there are 6 in the practice).  I would rather just discuss it with the doctor than have the nurse add her 2 cents.  Should I just accept the sheet from the nurse and not change?  Change and then discuss it with the doctor?  If my doctor has any convincing reasons why I should have the internal, I'm not 100% opposed.  I just don't really see the point. 

Sorry this is long!  Any thoughts?

Re: Declining Internals - how does your nurse/doctor react?

  • I have midwives and they don't offer internals until you're in labour. It doesn't really provide any relevant information, it's just a snapshot of where you are.
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  • I declined until this week (40 weeks).  I'm super glad I did.  They don't really tell anything but can get your over excited or over disappointed.  Especially since I'm a FTM, dilation can happen so quickly or not that it's barely useful.  

     

    I'm glad I got checked this week because I wanted a membrane sweep if I was dilated enough.  Turns out I was only 1 cm.  At 40 weeks, I wasn't overly disapointed though because it gave us a platform to talk about when I will need to be induced (my midwives like to induce between 7 & 10 days after your due date) and make plans.  I will get a membrane sweep at my 41 week appointment even if I'm still a 1 and if that fails, I will have to be induced.



  • What are your reasons for not wanting an internal?

    I personally at 38 weeks would like to know where everything stands down there. I've had them since 36 weeks and have not had any discomfort -- just mild spotting. Noting more than what a panty liner couldn't handle for a day or two after. 

    They can't make you do it but you are getting so close... They can let you know how far along you are -- To me, I am all about knowing. 

  • imagemichellepeanut:
    I have midwives and they don't offer internals until you're in labour. It doesn't really provide any relevant information, it's just a snapshot of where you are.

    This. If I were in your shoes I would probably just accept the sheet from the nurse and leave it to the side if she's a little too full of herself. No reason to fight with another person. It's not her business anyway. :-/

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  • imagemichellepeanut:
    I have midwives and they don't offer internals until you're in labour. It doesn't really provide any relevant information, it's just a snapshot of where you are.

    This for me too.   If anything, they just make you more anxious with thinking stuff like, "I'm 2 cm! I'm going ot have this baby soon!" and then you don't for 2 weeks. kwim?

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    imagek8edgerton:

    What are your reasons for not wanting an internal? 

    I don't really see any benefit to knowing.  I know it's a natural reaction, but I find it a bit silly that so many women on here say how they know it means nothing, but then get so frustrated with a lack of "progress."  Plus, there is a very small risk of infection or ruturing the membranes.  So I look at it as:  no benefit + very small risk vs. my slight curiosity. 

    Thanks for all the responses!  Thinking I'll accept the sheet from the nurse, set it aside, and just discuss with the doctor.

  • Personally, I accept the sheet, change, then discuss with my doctor before she proceeds.  Once we skipped it, but last time I agreed to let her try.  I'm willing to be persuaded that its worthwhile, and it saves time to have already changed if so.  If I agreed to do it but hadn't already changed, I expect she'd leave the room and head out to do something else before coming back, leaving me hanging around waiting awhile and I spend more than enough time at the doctor's already. 
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  • I'm being seen by midwives only at a birthing center in a hospital.  I declined the first two exams.  I also declined today for my 38 week check.... BUT.... MW said they'd want to check me at least once this week or next because of how long our drive is and how long I've been having contrax.  DH also wanted me to be checked and he was actually with me today... so... I got checked.  Nothing exciting and I know it holds little to no weight, so... whatever.  I'm more concerned with how often I'll be checked during labor- NEXT TO NONE. 
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  • I would accept the sheet and not change. If the doctor convinces you to have one then you can change.  My nurses or doctors didn't have any issues with me declining last week. 
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  • lindy27lindy27 member

    I can tell you one advantage to internals based off my experience.  I was in denial about being in active labor, mainly because my contractions wouldn't stay every 5 minutes, 1 minute long and for an hour.  They kept spacing out to 7-8 minutes and then back to 5.  I had been to the doctor at 40 weeks and they did an internal, 2 days later my husband finally made me go to the doctor because of bleeding and they determined I was in active labor based on my prior dilation vs current dilation and told me to head to the hospital.

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  • imagewife07mom09:

    whats the big deal?

    you are seeking prenatal care so why not let your OB do what needs to be done. You are not the doctor 

    Internal exams don't need to be done.  Except in cases where they want to induce and need to know how dilated you are to pick the right method, etc.

    https://www.nurturingheartsbirthservices.com/blog/?p=50 



  • imagewife07mom09:
     

    and thats what your medical school taught? again, the internet is not a substitution for a medical provider. 

     

    Agreed but not all doctors recommend them.  Clearly it's a grey area.  So you don't have to take your doctors opinion on something that's not agreed upon by so many doctors.



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