stupid question **update**

Re: stupid question **update**

• MaxandRuby member

  May 2012

  This sounds like something that is enforced depending on where you go. I assume their reasoning is that the aisles should be kept clear in case of an emergency so a cluttered aisle does not intervene with a quick evacuation. I would also assume that there are certain booths where this is more of an issue then others. In the end, I would call the fire marshall for your town and inquire. I could see the "fire hazard" issue part of this argument on one hand but without having experienced this myself it seems ridiculous on the other hand.
  

  FWIW, I have never been told that I cannot seat my child in a high chair at the end of a booth. If I was, and depending on how I was told and the mood I was in, I can honestly say that I would probably not give that restaurant any more of my business. 

  As for what I would have done? I either would have moved us all to a table or I would have left. I probably would not have made a huge deal about it unless I was in the mood for confrontation (which I typically am not). In the situation described above, I probably would have made a bit more of a stink though simply because it wasn't busy.
  

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• Assembly_Reqd member

  May 2012

  So do they turn away people in wheelchairs when all the tables are full and there are only booths available?  My guess is that they didn't want to open up another section and have it messed up by kids in high chairs and the fire marshall is their go to fall guy.

  If this is not the case, then I call bullshit. You could have had a corner or end of line booth and you would not have affected the access to any exits for the other patrons. What about tray stands? What about table busing carts? What about chairs from other tables that people do not push in all the way? All of these things could block access to an exit. I would contact the fire marshall and ask him to site the code section that states this. (There isn't one) Then you can tell him what an azzhat he is.

  I am pissed for you and would have left DH to eat alone.

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• ToastieSimons member

  May 2012

  most restaurants won't let us use a highchair in a booth unless it's out of the walkway.  They say it's too dangerous with servers walking by, especially the risk of something hot being dumped on the kid.

  So we use a booster seat that we bring ourselves.  It straps around the bottom and the back of the chair and is very secure.

  https://www.amazon.com/Summer-Infant-Deluxe-Comfort-Booster-/dp/B000JVXZF2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1337219083&sr=8-6 

  DS doesn't sit up well enough to rely on the highchairs and a booster is a joke. 

  We also have a hook on chair, but the waiters give us grief about putting it on the end of the booth, so we sometimes hook in on over the seats in the booth but it can be a pain.

  https://www.amazon.com/Chicco-TravelSeat-Hook-Chair-Adventure/dp/B000YFY5U2/ref=sr_1_3?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1337219149&sr=1-3 

  I guess I figured my kid has a disability and is not great at sitting so it's my job to provide for my kid, not everyone else's.

  It also makes it easier because I clean it to my standards and don't worry about who was using those restaurant high chairs/boosters before us. 

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• Justinlove member

  May 2012

  -auntie-:

  Strollers, high chairs and boosters do not meet the legal definition of adaptive aid. This is similar to the health rules on pets and therapy dogs- they do not meet the legal definition of a service animal.

  Bingo.  You will run into this in other places (for example, strollers are not allowed, but wheelchairs are)--it is a frequent topic of conversation on another forum I frequent. 

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• realisticdreams member

  May 2012

  I sent an email to the manager listed on their website, I got this back today. Looks like I was right!

  Mrs. D,
  
  First I would like to apologize for your visit. I am truly sorry. After
  researching what was the reasoning for why you were told it was a fire
  hazard to be sat at a booth with a high chair I found out that a manager
  that is no longer with us gave the direction to the staff that it was a
  fire hazard to be sat like that. Apparently it was at a place where she
  once worked. Anyways I have gone back and given the staff the correct
  information about how we seat our guest and this will definitely not be
  a problem in the future. I am so glad you emailed me about this
  situation. I'm sure it hasn't been pleasing to many people that were
  given that direction. Again I am very sorry this happened and definitely
  understand your frustration with your visit. Please except my apology's
  and hopefully give us another opportunity in the future.
  
  Jeff R
  

  General Manager 

   

  Assembly_Reqd:

  So do they turn away people in wheelchairs when all the tables are full and there are only booths available?  My guess is that they didn't want to open up another section and have it messed up by kids in high chairs and the fire marshall is their go to fall guy.

  If this is not the case, then I call bullshit. You could have had a corner or end of line booth and you would not have affected the access to any exits for the other patrons. What about tray stands? What about table busing carts? What about chairs from other tables that people do not push in all the way? All of these things could block access to an exit. I would contact the fire marshall and ask him to site the code section that states this. (There isn't one) Then you can tell him what an azzhat he is.

  I am pissed for you and would have left DH to eat alone.

  LOL your point of view is very similar to mine on all accounts!

  ToastieSimons:

  most restaurants won't let us use a highchair in a booth unless it's out of the walkway.  They say it's too dangerous with servers walking by, especially the risk of something hot being dumped on the kid.

  So we use a booster seat that we bring ourselves.  It straps around the bottom and the back of the chair and is very secure.

  https://www.amazon.com/Summer-Infant-Deluxe-Comfort-Booster-/dp/B000JVXZF2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1337219083&sr=8-6 

  DS doesn't sit up well enough to rely on the highchairs and a booster is a joke. 

  We also have a hook on chair, but the waiters give us grief about putting it on the end of the booth, so we sometimes hook in on over the seats in the booth but it can be a pain.

  https://www.amazon.com/Chicco-TravelSeat-Hook-Chair-Adventure/dp/B000YFY5U2/ref=sr_1_3?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1337219149&sr=1-3 

  I guess I figured my kid has a disability and is not great at sitting so it's my job to provide for my kid, not everyone else's.

  It also makes it easier because I clean it to my standards and don't worry about who was using those restaurant high chairs/boosters before us. 

  I'm ok with the dirty chairs, they are in the hospital/dr office on a weekly basis which exposes them to more crap than the chair most likely.

  We have just NEVER ran into this before.  Obviously if their are only tables available i don't freak out and wait for a booth.  In the past few weeks Peyton took a few hard falls off the boosters on the chairs though.  They were not busy at all and it just didn't make sense to me.  

  I know some people who bring their own boosters regardless, but we would need two boosters and that's alot to manage along with a diaper bag and two little ones.

  -auntie-:

  Justinlove:

  -auntie-:

  Strollers, high chairs and boosters do not meet the legal definition of adaptive aid. This is similar to the health rules on pets and therapy dogs- they do not meet the legal definition of a service animal.

  Bingo.  You will run into this in other places (for example, strollers are not allowed, but wheelchairs are)--it is a frequent topic of conversation on another forum I frequent. 

  It's why WDW tags stroller with the "Stroller as Wheelchair" labels to get around this.

  We had a really interesting discussion on another private board to which I belong. One of the moms is a chemistry professor who teaches in a leture hall with a single entrance. She had a student with mild MS who brought a dog to class and another student who claimed to be allergic but was probably just afraid of large dogs. #1 arrived early and always sat at the seat nearest the door. #2 was coming from another class and had to pass by the dog. My friend referred the matter to disability services and their lawyers to sort out.

  It was really interesting to see how the ADA parsed the situation. Short answer was that doggy had to go.

  Turns out the dog was not credentialed as a service animal, he was more of a therapy dog. To meet the definition of service animal, the dog would have to be trained to perform at least one task for the owner- predict a seizure, retrieve a dropped object, carry a backpack. He wasn't. This dog was more of a security balnket that made the woman feel less alone and vulnerable on campus. Disabled woman are at higher risk of sexual assault and she felt a large dog was a good option around that risk.

  I was kind of surprised that the mental health of #2 was as compelling to the disability office as the physical health issues #1 brought to the table.

   

   

  wow..just wow!

  
  

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