June 2011 Moms

Another crazy lottery story

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 https://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47321157/ns/today-today_news/t/she-may-have-return-k-trashed-lottery-ticket/

Summary:

Sharon Jones was overjoyed when she discovered a lottery ticket in a convenience store trash can that turned to be worth $1 million, until the woman who originally purchased the ticket sued for the winnings. NBC?s Janet Shamlian reports and TODAY?s Matt Lauer speaks with Jones, who may have to return the prize.

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Re: Another crazy lottery story

  • None of the above.

    It's not fair to the lady who found it to have to pay back the winnings to the lady who rightfully bought it and was wrongfully told it was not a winner.

    I think at the worst, the lady who found it should have to give the remaining amount to the original ticket holder.

    What I really think should happen is that the store should be responsible for a least part of the winnings to be given to the original ticket holder.  They are the ones who told her it was no good.  It could be argued it was their fault to begin with.

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  • I don't understand how they can make the lady who found it pay the original holder back.  There is no way she'd be able to afford that after already having spent so much.  It's not her fault the store messed up and the lottery commision paid her the winnings.

    I do think the original ticket holder should get her winnings, just not at the expense of the one who found it.

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    imagekimbo1216:

    What I really think should happen is that the store should be responsible for a least part of the winnings to be given to the original ticket holder.  They are the ones who told her it was no good.  It could be argued it was their fault to begin with.

    hmm intersting answer.  How much do you think the store should give lady #1?

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    hmm intersting answer.  How much do you think the store should give lady #1?

    I don't know.  I don't have the right answer.  I do know the store gets winnings too when they sell a winning ticket.  At the very least, they should be responsible for giving those winnings to the original lady.

     

    ETA: Maybe the LC could make up the rest. Idk.  All I know is that I don't think the ticket finder should be punished this late in the game.  It's just not fair to her.  She shouldn't have to go into debt over someone else's mistake.

  • imagekimbo1216:
    I do know the store gets winnings too when they sell a winning ticket.  At the very least, they should be responsible for giving those winnings to the original lady.

     

    ETA: Maybe the LC could make up the rest. Idk.  All I know is that I don't think the ticket finder should be punished this late in the game.  It's just not fair to her.  She shouldn't have to go into debt over someone else's mistake.

    I agree with this.  It's a sh*tty situation, but I don't think the person that found the ticket is at fault.  It's the responsibility of whomever told the ticket buyer that it wasn't a winner (although - and maybe this is unrealistic because I don't buy lottery tickets - I think the original ticket buyer should have independently checked the results herself). 

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  • I'm sure it was said, but how did lady #1 prove she was the original buyer?  Even if she was, she threw it out.  If she thought she had a winning ticket, she should have pursued it further, she chose not to, and threw it away. 

    Think of the ticket as cash, if someone threw away cash they would not be able to ask for it back. Compound it with the fact that is was a convenient store trash can (no a trash can in someones home which is still considered their property) and Lady # 1 has no leg to stand on in my book.

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    imageMammaBear81:

    I'm sure it was said, but how did lady #1 prove she was the original buyer? 

    The store had it on camera.

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    Normally, I would say finders keepers. However, there was a sign posted by there store that you are NOT to take tickets from the trash.  So, in essence lady #2 stole the ticket from the store.
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    I don't understand how they can make the lady who found it pay the original holder back.  There is no way she'd be able to afford that after already having spent so much.  It's not her fault the store messed up and the lottery commision paid her the winnings.

    I do think the original ticket holder should get her winnings, just not at the expense of the one who found it.

    I agree, not sure from who, but both women should end up with the winnings.  The woman who found the ticket should not be held responsible for finding something that was throw away and using it.

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  • i think ladies 1 and 2 should split it 50/50.
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  • I side with lady #2... My local paper had some more details about this story last week:

    https://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/05/arkansas_woman_who_threw_away.html

    1. There is a dispute over when the "do not take" sign went up

    2. Video of Lady #1 buying the ticket along with Lottery Records don't exactly match up to prove that Lady #1 bought the ticket

    3. If I throw out an old piece of Art with my trash on Sunday, and someone picks it up and sells it at auction for $1million dollars - Should I be able to claim that the $1 million dollars is mine?!?!? No. I should have checked that the painting wasn't worth something BEFORE I threw it out. Lady #1 should have scratched off her stupid ticket before throwing it out, instead of just believing the scanner and trashing it.  

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     If I throw out an old piece of Art with my trash on Sunday, and someone picks it up and sells it at auction for $1million dollars - Should I be able to claim that the $1 million dollars is mine?!?!? No. I should have checked that the painting wasn't worth something BEFORE I threw it out. Lady #1 should have scratched off her stupid ticket before throwing it out, instead of just believing the scanner and trashing it.  

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  • So it used to be that if you found a bucket of money :P you would be required by law to publish that *something* was found, and the original owner could have an opportunity to claim it. I believe the police would need to notified, too, then after 90 days the person who found it could keep it.

    Obviously this lady knew that she was not the one to buy it. The other woman abandoned it, but it was due to bad information.

    I would have her give it back.

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  • I didn't rear the article just the summary. I believe the ticket holder should get the money, so lady #2. But, after reading kimbo's response about lady #1 being wrongfully told she was not a winner, I think lady #1 deserves the money, she bought the ticket!
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  • Hypothetical Scenario:

    What if Lady # 1 scratched off the ticket, and read it wrong and thought she was not a winner, then purposefully threw it out?

    Then Lady #2 finds it and realizes the ticket is a winner...

    Is Lady #1 still entitled to the money then?

     

  • imageJuneBugsMommy:
    I didn't rear the article just the summary. I believe the ticket holder should get the money, so lady #2. But, after reading kimbo's response about lady #1 being wrongfully told she was not a winner, I think lady #1 deserves the money, she bought the ticket!

    If I scratched off a ticket that said I won 1 million dollars, and when I went to redeem it the computer said "not a winner" then I would go somewhere else, or call the manufacturer of the scratch off ticket.... there would be no way in heck I would throw it away!

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    imageJuneBugsMommy:
    I didn't rear the article just the summary. I believe the ticket holder should get the money, so lady #2. But, after reading kimbo's response about lady #1 being wrongfully told she was not a winner, I think lady #1 deserves the money, she bought the ticket!

    If I scratched off a ticket that said I won 1 million dollars, and when I went to redeem it the computer said "not a winner" then I would go somewhere else, or call the manufacturer of the scratch off ticket.... there would be no way in heck I would throw it away!

    I dont think she scratched it off.... I think it was one of those manual machines where you put the bar code of the ticket underneath the scanner and it says WINNER! or NOT A WINNER! Then  she threw it out. It sounds like perhaps the machine malfunctioned?

  • imageprncsstp:
    I dont think she scratched it off.... I think it was one of those manual machines where you put the bar code of the ticket underneath the scanner and it says WINNER! or NOT A WINNER! Then  she threw it out. It sounds like perhaps the machine malfunctioned?

    I feel like it was her fault then.  She shouldn't have just trusted the machine without even scratching. It's irresponsible, imo.

    The other lady got super lucky.  And the sign in the store thing doesn't hold up for me.  That's not a legal sign. Doesn't matter if it was there or not. 

    She has already spent so much money.  I just don't really think she should be responsible for that.  It just doesn't seem right.

    And besides, whatever happened to possession being 9/10 of the law?

     

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