Too little too late. There won't be any change before he leaves office and this basically just handed the presidency over to Romney. Next year at this time---it won't be pretty. But so glad to see he finally came around to the same place the Golden Girls managed to be at in the 80's or 90's.
I'm not moved. I feel like he just said "Hey, I like you guys because some of you are all about military service, but you know, this really isn't my issue."
The fact that it's a state issue is exactly the reason I can't get married, may have to leave the country, am afraid to have children etc. I didn't expect anything else from him, but I don't feel like applauding.
Too little too late. There won't be any change before he leaves office and this basically just handed the presidency over to Romney. Next year at this time---it won't be pretty. But so glad to see he finally came around to the same place the Golden Girls managed to be at in the 80's or 90's.
I (respectfully, of course) disagree. I think this may be the fire the base needs to get out again this year and kick Romney's butt. SO many conservatives are (supposedly) fiscally conservative and don't give a rat's behind about gay marriage. Also, SO many people who worked tirelessly for Obama last time were/are really disappointed about the lack of progress in so many social issues and were not excited about voting for him again. I think this changes the game.
I'm glad Obama has "evolved". This is so corny, but it actually brought tears to my eyes.
This is awesome and historic. It really frustrates me how many liberals are upset that he didn't turn out to be the messiah.
As an upset liberal, I didn't want him to be the messiah, but I wanted him to do good work all the way through his administration. And he did a lot of good things, don't get me wrong. But the gay marriage thing? Late to the game.
I'm not moved. I feel like he just said "Hey, I like you guys because some of you are all about military service, but you know, this really isn't my issue."
The fact that it's a state issue is exactly the reason I can't get married, may have to leave the country, am afraid to have children etc. I didn't expect anything else from him, but I don't feel like applauding.
I agree. Where did this "states rights" thing come from? He isn't a Republican, he doesn't have to care about that. The fact that his position is now the same as *** Cheney's doesn't exactly thrill me. The fact that he still hasn't (and doesn't indicate he will in the near future) proposed any actionable policy initiatives to actually move us closer to the goal of marriage equality and that according to his own statement wouldn't even agree with doing so at the federal level really irritates me.
It's historic, sure, but that doesn't mean I have to be impressed. It's just not a very impressive statement.
He also has NOTHING to lose here. The haters on the Right already hate him no matter what he does. The details of his policy positions seem to elude them... I'm sure many of them already think Obama supported marriage equality prior to this announcement, and even if they didn't he still supported the repeal of DADT and the passage of the Hate Crimes bill, so it's all basically the same to them.
Like tdmklm said, this will energize the base and increase turn-out for him. On basically every solidly progressive issue he has been losing points with voters, especially young voters, for years, so he has some making up to do. Symbolic as this is, apparently lots of people are really excited about it, thus giving his campaign exactly the kick it needs right now.
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On the one hand, it isn't something we should *have* to be celebrating, marriage should be a basic human right, but since it isn't... and since no president has ever uttered these words before.. I say, f*ck yeah. Celebrate!! Celebrate the hope it gives gay people in red states, states that will never vote to legalize gay marriage. Hope that maybe someday they can get married (like most of us). I can't imagine, after being legally married for 3+ (uneventful) years, having to ask, hope, prey, stand on a street corner with a sign, asking for people to allow me the 'right' to marry K. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. I am surprised by the lack of support from the gay community. Yes, this should be a non-issue but it isn't.
(I also think it will get people out to vote and anything that prevents Romney from getting into office, is cause to celebrate.)
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I'm not moved. I feel like he just said "Hey, I like you guys because some of you are all about military service, but you know, this really isn't my issue."
The fact that it's a state issue is exactly the reason I can't get married, may have to leave the country, am afraid to have children etc. I didn't expect anything else from him, but I don't feel like applauding.
I (respectfully, of course) disagree.
I think this may be the fire the base needs to get out again this year and kick Romney's butt. SO many conservatives are (supposedly) fiscally conservative and don't give a rat's behind about gay marriage. Also, SO many people who worked tirelessly for Obama last time were/are really disappointed about the lack of progress in so many social issues and were not excited about voting for him again. I think this changes the game.
I'm glad Obama has "evolved". This is so corny, but it actually brought tears to my eyes.
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As an upset liberal, I didn't want him to be the messiah, but I wanted him to do good work all the way through his administration. And he did a lot of good things, don't get me wrong. But the gay marriage thing? Late to the game.
I agree. Where did this "states rights" thing come from? He isn't a Republican, he doesn't have to care about that. The fact that his position is now the same as *** Cheney's doesn't exactly thrill me. The fact that he still hasn't (and doesn't indicate he will in the near future) proposed any actionable policy initiatives to actually move us closer to the goal of marriage equality and that according to his own statement wouldn't even agree with doing so at the federal level really irritates me.
It's historic, sure, but that doesn't mean I have to be impressed. It's just not a very impressive statement.
He also has NOTHING to lose here. The haters on the Right already hate him no matter what he does. The details of his policy positions seem to elude them... I'm sure many of them already think Obama supported marriage equality prior to this announcement, and even if they didn't he still supported the repeal of DADT and the passage of the Hate Crimes bill, so it's all basically the same to them.
Like tdmklm said, this will energize the base and increase turn-out for him. On basically every solidly progressive issue he has been losing points with voters, especially young voters, for years, so he has some making up to do. Symbolic as this is, apparently lots of people are really excited about it, thus giving his campaign exactly the kick it needs right now.
On the one hand, it isn't something we should *have* to be celebrating, marriage should be a basic human right, but since it isn't... and since no president has ever uttered these words before.. I say, f*ck yeah. Celebrate!! Celebrate the hope it gives gay people in red states, states that will never vote to legalize gay marriage. Hope that maybe someday they can get married (like most of us). I can't imagine, after being legally married for 3+ (uneventful) years, having to ask, hope, prey, stand on a street corner with a sign, asking for people to allow me the 'right' to marry K. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. I am surprised by the lack of support from the gay community. Yes, this should be a non-issue but it isn't.
(I also think it will get people out to vote and anything that prevents Romney from getting into office, is cause to celebrate.)
yes.
And I'm stealing this from an FB friend but it sums up my feelings well:
"At least the country has progressed to the point where coming out as pro gay marriage can be seen as pandering rather than political suicide."
I will take the baby steps - without them no big changes have ever happened.
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