July 2011 Moms

A quick response

I expected some opinions, but I didn't not expects pages of people discussing my situation while I spent the day with my baby. Wow. I only have a few minutes to respond before I get ready for work, but I will try to address a few things. First of all, thank you very much for all of the Congrats. We are very excited to expand our family. Mason will make a great big brother. This is an Internet forum. I by no means expect sunshine and puppies. I appreciate real opinions, and like to debate things. I won't lie - I judge you guys all the time! I don't regret sharing too much. While I completely admit to not being this open in real life due to some level of being ashamed, embarrassed, I have absolutely nothing to hide from a group of strangers. Mainemommy, I am very happy that you know my exact situation. I am relieved to know that someone has been through the exact same situation , and that my life with be the same as yours. What was that? Three kids with three baby daddys? Courts involved? Maybe a trailer? I'm sorry. I don't remember the details. Maybe you could share more details since our lives are the exact same. I am a well-educated person. I have a great job where I make a lot of money. I take good care of my baby. I asked J (EX) to leave in January so he could take the time to concentrate on full recovery. As mentioned before, he has undergone inpatient and outpatient rehab, he goes to counseling, he participates in NA meetings daily. He has a job. He sees his son every day, and he participates fully in his care. In general, I still pay my father to watch Mason while I work. However, J will take him on walks to the park or entertain/feed/bathe him while I am home. It is a great help, and they have a great relationship. I never stopped loving him. We very rarely fought in our seven years together. He is not a scum-bag. He is not a deadbeat. He has a problem that he is working on, but that does not make him a bad person. I feel like I am rambling, and I am really just repeating myself. I am sorry. Let's put it this way. I understand why people would judge. I do not think that some of the comments are necessary, but I knew that there would be opinions. Not a single person here can change how I feel about this pregnancy. Let me be completely cliche here --- You don't know my life!
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Re: A quick response

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    Mainemommy, I am very happy that you know my exact situation. I am relieved to know that someone has been through the exact same situation , and that my life with be the same as yours. What was that? Three kids with three baby daddys? Courts involved? Maybe a trailer? I'm sorry. I don't remember the details. Maybe you could share more details since our lives are the exact same. 

     

     

    3 children, 2 baby daddies one of which is my husband. We just bought a super cute log cabin in the middle of the woods. Didnt say our lives were the same. Im saying you're stupid for making these choices for yourself & your children. Based on earlier posts by yourself I thought you were intelligent & strong, revelations today have proven otherwise. Cant wait to see the fallout from this, wonder how long it will take for another "relapse" from him now. 

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  • M&M: Congrats!

    Secondly, it's your life and your decision. There's no need to justify this. At all.

    You are a grown a$$ with a job, stable housing and enough love to go around. Your relationship maybe a bit judge worthy but whatever..you know you best. I have known people in a lot worse situations that have had babies and survived.

    Everyone has problems, the internet included and I think a few posters forgot that earlier.

     

  • I commend you for being honest and standing up for yourself. I don't share about my life because it seems to bring out some nastiness on this board. If I was open about what is going on in my life, some people might flame me for TTC. Its not that I can't handle the criticism, its just that it saddens me when people get nasty. If you asked for my opinion about your situation, maybe I would give it to you. You didn't ask so I won't say anything. Best of luck to you!
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    M&M: Congrats!

    Secondly, it's your life and your decision. There's no need to justify this. At all.

    You are a grown a$$ with a job, stable housing and enough love to go around. Your relationship maybe a bit judge worthy but whatever..you know you best. I have known people in a lot worse situations that have had babies and survived.

    Everyone has problems, the internet included and I think a few posters forgot that earlier.

     

    Thanks.
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  • imagemainemommy:
    imageMason&Mama:

     

     

    Mainemommy, I am very happy that you know my exact situation. I am relieved to know that someone has been through the exact same situation , and that my life with be the same as yours. What was that? Three kids with three baby daddys? Courts involved? Maybe a trailer? I'm sorry. I don't remember the details. Maybe you could share more details since our lives are the exact same. 

     

     

    3 children, 2 baby daddies one of which is my husband. We just bought a super cute log cabin in the middle of the woods. Didnt say our lives were the same. Im saying you're stupid for making these choices for yourself & your children. Based on earlier posts by yourself I thought you were intelligent & strong, revelations today have proven otherwise. Cant wait to see the fallout from this, wonder how long it will take for another "relapse" from him now. 

    I apologize if I went overboard.
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  • Im ready for you to admit you were ttc anytime now by the way. 
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  • imageMason&Mama:
    imagemainemommy:
    imageMason&Mama:

     

     

    Mainemommy, I am very happy that you know my exact situation. I am relieved to know that someone has been through the exact same situation , and that my life with be the same as yours. What was that? Three kids with three baby daddys? Courts involved? Maybe a trailer? I'm sorry. I don't remember the details. Maybe you could share more details since our lives are the exact same. 

     

     

    3 children, 2 baby daddies one of which is my husband. We just bought a super cute log cabin in the middle of the woods. Didnt say our lives were the same. Im saying you're stupid for making these choices for yourself & your children. Based on earlier posts by yourself I thought you were intelligent & strong, revelations today have proven otherwise. Cant wait to see the fallout from this, wonder how long it will take for another "relapse" from him now. 

    I apologize if I went overboard.

    Not overboard, Id be mad too if I were you. Im sure you expected more of the butt kissing & less of the real.

    & for the courts involved comment that I was just reminded is on here. Thats what any reasonable responsible adult does when they split from their childrens parent, especially when there are issues like these involved.  

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  • imagemainemommy:
    Im ready for you to admit you were ttc anytime now by the way. 
    WHAT? I am not going to even fully respond to this. I am off to work soon and want to spend the last 15 minutes with my baby. Feel free to keep discussing. It will give me something to read at 4am if things are slow. No more caffeine to keep me awake at works, so TB will have to do!
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  • WinkHormones are kicking in already I see
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  • I am a total lurker, but I really think you have to cutest little boy ever.  Your current sig pic is so adorable, love the faux hawk!  Congrats on your BFP, as long as you are happy everyone else can kiss your a@@!
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  • imageMason&Mama:
    imagemainemommy:
    Im ready for you to admit you were ttc anytime now by the way. 
    WHAT? I am not going to even fully respond to this. I am off to work soon and want to spend the last 15 minutes with my baby. Feel free to keep discussing. It will give me something to read at 4am if things are slow. No more caffeine to keep me awake at works, so TB will have to do!

    This proves to me that you are a total AW and love to see the group stirred up.  Touche.

    By the way the comment about you TTC was spawned in your original post saying "you wanted your kids to be close in age", plus you're an adult and a nurse and so probably know where babies come from.  Maybe you weren't actively setting out to make a baby, but you sure weren't doing much to prevent it either.

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  • I just want to say that my SIL has been through this and it IS possible to make it through despite of what all the "experts" here say. I won't go into the whole story and I know everyone's story is different but he had a prescription drug addiction & as a result stole thousands from their joint checking and from his parents. They almost lost their home, he lost his job the list goes on...he went to rehab for 6 months just as she was having their second child. Almost 1 1/2 later after rehab and counseling (for both of them seperately and together) their relationship is stronger & happier than it has ever been. Congrats to you and I wish you the best!
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  • I think the real shock from your BFP was all of the months we heard about you never going back to him, and how many times he had slipped up before.  And how he had let you down, and you were ashamed of him.

    I think people are shocked because we've never really heard positive things about him.  He's a good dad, but he's let you down a lot, so it's surprising you'd want to have more children with him.  After how he has treated YOU, not Mason.  And many of your confessions were about sneaking around with him.  I don't believe anyone is wishing you ill will, just shocked, and honestly disappointed.

    I am skeptical because my SIL had a baby with a man, who died when my nephew was 15 months of a drug overdose (on a relapse after being clean for years).  It hits home all too well.  I do hope that you have a better experience than most.

    Here's to a healthy and happy pregnancy!!

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    I think the real shock from your BFP was all of the months we heard about you never going back to him, and how many times he had slipped up before.  And how he had let you down, and you were ashamed of him.

    I think people are shocked because we've never really heard positive things about him.  He's a good dad, but he's let you down a lot, so it's surprising you'd want to have more children with him.  After how he has treated YOU, not Mason.  And many of your confessions were about sneaking around with him.  I don't believe anyone is wishing you ill will, just shocked, and honestly disappointed.

    I am skeptical because my SIL had a baby with a man, who died when my nephew was 15 months of a drug overdose (on a relapse after being clean for years).  It hits home all too well.  I do hope that you have a better experience than most.

    Here's to a healthy and happy pregnancy!!

    My dad is late to watch the baby, so I am checking in. I actually believe that I have said a lot of good things about him. I have made it pretty clear that he is a great guy in many many ways. I have never said a bad thing about his parenting, and he never treated me bad. He has slipped up a few times, but mostly in the remote past (7 years ago). He had years of being clean before the holidays. He has had several surgeries in the past, and that is when he ended up taking a few extra pills. Not an excuse, but an explanation. Honestly, the only problem with the relationship is slipping up, but obviously a big one. I just wanted to make it clear that I have not been talking *** about him all along, and maybe you all just assumed that he was an azzhole. But thank you for the well wishes.
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  • It sounds to me like you're saying to us the things you say to yourself to try & make yourself believe this is reality. 

    I hope you're getting help too, its obvious you need it. I know, single mom with 2 kids & a drug addict ex is a lot harder than it may seem to you now.  

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    I am very sad to say that I am the newest member of your board. Here is my story. I love my baby's father. We have been together for seven years, and we have a very special bond. He has a great heart, and he loves me and Mason very much. Unfortunately, he has a disease. He is a drug addict. I would have to say that the majority of our relationship he has been clean. I have never even experimented with drugs, and I am pretty much the complete opposite of someone you would imagine with an addict. My ex had a very difficult childhood, but he is educated and a talented hard worker. A combination of prescribed pain pills after several operations and hanging with the wrong people during his 20's led to a pain pill dependence. He has been through recovery, and I have been lucky enough to know the clean version of the man I love. Sometimes he goes 2 years clean, and sometimes only 6 months. He usually relapses for a short period of time before getting help. It has happened a handful of times throughout our relationship. When he relapses, he makes terrible decisions. He will spend money we need, and he has even stolen from his family. I stayed by his side through all if this because of the man he s 95% of the time. However, now I have a son. My ex's father died unexpectedly the day after Mason was born. He has had a very hard time coping, and I believe that the holidays put him over the edge. He slipped up for the first time since Mason was born.i was hoping that it would never happen, but in my heart I knew it was always a looming possibility. He spent money we don't have (I just quit my full-time job), and he even stole from my family on Christmas. I was heartbroken, and he is beside himself with regret. For the first time in 7 years, we are broken up. I am not the type to have an on again, off again relationship. I had many opportunities to call it quits in the past, but I never had the reason of an innocent baby. My ex has no money, his truck needs work so it is not even insured/registered, and he has no place to live. I let him sleep here the last few nights while he actively sought out a rehab bed. (There are waiting lists everywhere.) He enters rehab this afternoon with the understanding that this is no longer a home to come back to. I promised him that his son would always be a part of his life and that I wouldn't play games with that relationship. I just hope that he takes this opportunity to grow as a person. He has never joined a halfway house or sober house as part o f recovery, and I am hoping that he can accomplish that this time. I can no longer enable him. We have had an amazing relationship, and the bad times have been few and far between. But they always come back. It's not fair to expose my little boy to that. I am scared for my ex. Very scared. I feel like this is his do or die moment. I am hoping it is his rock bottom ... losing his family, his home. I am also scared for myself. I just quit my job. I have no one to watch LO while I work per diem shifts (overnights), but I need to start working ASAP to pay my bills. It is so overwhelming. I hope to be able to visit this board for advice and support. I spend most of my time on the 3-6 month and July 2011 board, but it looks like this is where I have the most learning to do now. Thanks in advance.

     

    Slightly contradictory to the story about him having a one time slip up due to rx pills he was given from a surgery

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  • imageMason&Mama:
    imageIlliniQT:

    I think the real shock from your BFP was all of the months we heard about you never going back to him, and how many times he had slipped up before.  And how he had let you down, and you were ashamed of him.

    I think people are shocked because we've never really heard positive things about him.  He's a good dad, but he's let you down a lot, so it's surprising you'd want to have more children with him.  After how he has treated YOU, not Mason.  And many of your confessions were about sneaking around with him.  I don't believe anyone is wishing you ill will, just shocked, and honestly disappointed.

    I am skeptical because my SIL had a baby with a man, who died when my nephew was 15 months of a drug overdose (on a relapse after being clean for years).  It hits home all too well.  I do hope that you have a better experience than most.

    Here's to a healthy and happy pregnancy!!

    My dad is late to watch the baby, so I am checking in. I actually believe that I have said a lot of good things about him. I have made it pretty clear that he is a great guy in many many ways. I have never said a bad thing about his parenting, and he never treated me bad. He has slipped up a few times, but mostly in the remote past (7 years ago). He had years of being clean before the holidays. He has had several surgeries in the past, and that is when he ended up taking a few extra pills. Not an excuse, but an explanation. Honestly, the only problem with the relationship is slipping up, but obviously a big one.

     

     

    I just wanted to make it clear that I have not been talking *** about him all along, and maybe you all just assumed that he was an azzhole.

     

     

    But thank you for the well wishes.

    Relapsing into a drug addiction and stealing from your family is more than "slipping up" 

    I wish you would just own it and stop being in denial. Your low blows at Mainmommy are comical considering you will now have 2 children with a drug addict and quite possibly (considering the chances of staying in a healthy relationship with a drug addict are slim) more children with your next husband. 

    Here is a direct quote of yours. 

    I am very sad to say that I am the newest member of your board. Here is my story. I love my baby's father. We have been together for seven years, and we have a very special bond. He has a great heart, and he loves me and Mason very much. Unfortunately, he has a disease. He is a drug addict. I would have to say that the majority of our relationship he has been clean. I have never even experimented with drugs, and I am pretty much the complete opposite of someone you would imagine with an addict. My ex had a very difficult childhood, but he is educated and a talented hard worker. A combination of prescribed pain pills after several operations and hanging with the wrong people during his 20's led to a pain pill dependence. He has been through recovery, and I have been lucky enough to know the clean version of the man I love. Sometimes he goes 2 years clean, and sometimes only 6 months. He usually relapses for a short period of time before getting help. It has happened a handful of times throughout our relationship. 

    This is a HUGE difference than your opening post where you claim that his relapses happened seven years ago for the most part. HUGE. It's complete denial and an outright lie. 

    He's been clean for what, 100 days? 120 max? For petes sake, just own it. You're having a 2 under 2 with a full blown drug addict. You're no better than Mainemommy or anyone else. 

     

     

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  • Here's the thing: She asked exactly no one for their opinions. She announced a pregnancy, just like thousands of women do every day. I guarantee you, each of us has had marriage or relationship issues, and a good majority of us have voiced them out of anger, needing advice, or just plain venting. No one except for M&M and her SO know what goes on in their lives. When someone tells me that they are expecting a child, and are happy about it, and can support said child and by all accounts are an awesome mother already, I say "congratulations", not critique her life. A lot of people around here have spent a good portion of the day criticizing a woman who works hard to provide for herself and her son for the sole reason that she is happy about having another child. I say, this is a blessing because M&M thinks it is a blessing. And as far as I can tell, that is the only thing in the world that matters. 
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    Here's the thing: She asked exactly no one for their opinions. She announced a pregnancy, just like thousands of women do every day. I guarantee you, each of us has had marriage or relationship issues, and a good majority of us have voiced them out of anger, needing advice, or just plain venting. No one except for M&M and her SO know what goes on in their lives. When someone tells me that they are expecting a child, and are happy about it, and can support said child and by all accounts are an awesome mother already, I say "congratulations", not critique her life. A lot of people around here have spent a good portion of the day criticizing a woman who works hard to provide for herself and her son for the sole reason that she is happy about having another child. I say, this is a blessing because M&M thinks it is a blessing. And as far as I can tell, that is the only thing in the world that matters. 
    wow! Well said :) 
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  • imageswimiz500:
    Here's the thing: She asked exactly no one for their opinions. She announced a pregnancy, just like thousands of women do every day. I guarantee you, each of us has had marriage or relationship issues, and a good majority of us have voiced them out of anger, needing advice, or just plain venting. No one except for M&M and her SO know what goes on in their lives. When someone tells me that they are expecting a child, and are happy about it, and can support said child and by all accounts are an awesome mother already, I say "congratulations", not critique her life. A lot of people around here have spent a good portion of the day criticizing a woman who works hard to provide for herself and her son for the sole reason that she is happy about having another child. I say, this is a blessing because M&M thinks it is a blessing. And as far as I can tell, that is the only thing in the world that matters. 

     

    Exactly!  Very well said! 

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